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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / January 2006

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Spring Boosters and Shocks for Pickup?

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Rodan - 20 Jan 2006 01:40 GMT
1997 F-250 HD 8600 GVWR 460CID Std Cab

    RE:  Spring Boosters and Shocks for Pickup?

I want to install spring boosters to help support
a 2750-Lb cabover camper, and to install shock
absorbers to reduce vehicle sway.

This is my first camper and I don't know what is
available, what works best, or if a spring/shock
combination is recommended.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Rodan.
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Chris Hill - 20 Jan 2006 14:49 GMT
>1997 F-250 HD 8600 GVWR 460CID Std Cab
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>Rodan.

I think I'd sell it and get something with a camper certification.
lgadbois - 20 Jan 2006 15:22 GMT
I have Ride-Rite air bags on my motorhome. They are good for about 40 lbs of
support for each pound of air. If your cabover weighs 2750, that weight will
mostly be supported by the rear wheels. Say, about 1400 lbs per wheel. A
pair of air bags on the rear will support up to an additional 5000 lbs on
your rig. What you can do is to use the air bags to return the body to level
after installing the cabover.

Good luck!

> 1997 F-250 HD 8600 GVWR 460CID Std Cab
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> Rodan.
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HD in NY - 20 Jan 2006 17:19 GMT
> I have Ride-Rite air bags on my motorhome. They are good for about 40 lbs of
> support for each pound of air. If your cabover weighs 2750, that weight will
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> Good luck!
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I think the OP needs to research his situation better. He
needs to check his truck spec sheet and determine if his
allowable bed load weight is sufficient to handle the
camper. I have serious doubts whether an F250 of '97 vintage
is heavy enough in the spring and axle department. He's
talking about a much bigger load than 2,750 lbs as he hasn't
even added in the stuff which will live in the camper (food
etc.).
Hugh
William Boyd - 20 Jan 2006 18:18 GMT
>> I have Ride-Rite air bags on my motorhome. They are good for about 40
>> lbs of support for each pound of air. If your cabover weighs 2750,
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> in the stuff which will live in the camper (food etc.).
> Hugh
I agree, the 8600 GVWR will be eat up fast with the dry weight of the
vehicle XX XX what ever it is along with the dry weight of 2750 and add
the rest of the cargo liquids/ fuel and water, people, dogs and food.
Dont expect any increase of the GVWR as a result of adding additional
springs, shocks and air bags, just dont forget to add their weight to
the list of cargo.

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Jayseebee - 20 Jan 2006 21:59 GMT
Most of the folks we have talked with in person run the air bags on
their trucks with the slide in heavier campers. These are usually on 3/4
and 1 ton rigs(including duallys). They can be adjusted as mentioned to
add support for xx lbs per lb of inflation. They are especially good for
if one side of the camper is heavier than the other (it normally is) and
you squirt them up individually so the camper/truck bed is level while
on the road/inuse (which is the primary reason along with increase load
capacity of the truck). You can let some air out when the camper is not
on the back to allow a smother ride. With the spring booster they are
always there, do not allow for as much added gross weight as the bags,
there is no side to side adjustment for leveling, and the ride will be
harsher when the camper is not in the back. The springs are cheaper to
buy/install the bags should go around $250 by themselves and $350
installed around here in SE WI?

JCB

03 GMC Sierra/2500HD/4X4/EC/LB/Diesel/Allison/RBW
06 Open Road 296RLDS Fiver

> 1997 F-250 HD 8600 GVWR 460CID Std Cab
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> Rodan.
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Ron Recer - 20 Jan 2006 23:04 GMT
> Most of the folks we have talked with in person run the air bags on their
> trucks with the slide in heavier campers. These are usually on 3/4 and 1
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> road/inuse (which is the primary reason along with increase load capacity
> of the truck).

Excuse me, but adding air bags, springs, vocal incantations or blessings by
the local priest won't increase the load capacity of any truck, only the
manufacturer (or a complete rebuild including frame, axle, wheels,
suspension, etc.) can do that.  However, air bags may very useful for
leveling an uneven load.

Ron

> You can let some air out when the camper is not on the back to allow a
> smother ride. With the spring booster they are always there, do not allow
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>> Rodan.
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Chris Hill - 21 Jan 2006 04:48 GMT
>Most of the folks we have talked with in person run the air bags on
>their trucks with the slide in heavier campers. These are usually on 3/4
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>buy/install the bags should go around $250 by themselves and $350
>installed around here in SE WI?

Most of the trucks hauling campers you see are overloaded.  Airbags
can't add load capacity; airbags, stronger frame, bigger brakes and
heavier running gear can.
Will Sill - 21 Jan 2006 12:58 GMT
I see where Jayseebee <Jayseebee@nowhere.com> suggested that air bags
. . . .

> are especially good for
>if one side of the camper is heavier than the other (it normally is) and
>you squirt them up individually so the camper/truck bed is level while
>on the road/inuse (which is the primary reason along with increase load
>capacity of the truck).

As others point out, suspension mods do NOT increase the capacity of
the truck.   At best they allow a more level attitude when overloaded.
I dunno how many truck campers are overloaded, but it's certainly more
than half.  I'd encourage the OP to get a much lighter camper.

Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
 
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