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William Boyd - 20 Jan 2006 20:21 GMT
I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
each side. The Memory foam ones are so high, like $1,000 a copy. There
must be one that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an
afternoon nap on the couch, I think I rest better.
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Pepperoni - 20 Jan 2006 22:31 GMT
 toss the old one and buy  the cheapest firm mattress to fit.  should be
about 100 buckies, then get a 2 inch mattress topper with memory foam.
Camping world has them.

>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you could
>get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on each side.
>The Memory foam ones are so high, like $1,000 a copy. There must be one
>that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an afternoon nap on
>the couch, I think I rest better.
Madarilla - 21 Jan 2006 04:05 GMT
I don't know where you are, but we are in DFW, TX and there's a place called
City Mattress Factory that custom built a short queen pillow top for our
motorhome.  The price was less than $250 and it is easily the most
comfortable mattress we have, mobile or home.

>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you could
>get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on each side.
>The Memory foam ones are so high, like $1,000 a copy. There must be one
>that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an afternoon nap on
>the couch, I think I rest better.
William Boyd - 21 Jan 2006 05:40 GMT
> I don't know where you are, but we are in DFW, TX and there's a place called
> City Mattress Factory that custom built a short queen pillow top for our
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>>that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an afternoon nap on
>>the couch, I think I rest better.

Thanks I have family in the area I'll have it check out.

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John Andrews - 21 Jan 2006 09:55 GMT
> I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
> could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
> each side. The Memory foam ones are so high, like $1,000 a copy. There
> must be one that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an
> afternoon nap on the couch, I think I rest better.

That memory foam mattress is available from Sam's Club for about
$500.  It weighs 100 lbs, significantly more than an innerspring
mattress.  You have to consider that in an RV.  We have a topper
on ours in the RV, and it is heavy, too.

John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee
Bob Giddings - 21 Jan 2006 16:42 GMT
>> I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
>> could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
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>
>John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee

One reason the ones they come with are cheap, besides being
inexpensive, is that many of them have to be bent nearly double
to get them into the space provided.

After many unhappy trials with air mattresses, I am quite pleased
with my present set-up:  5 inches of dense foam, topped by 2
inches of medium foam, topped by one inch of memory foam.  Cover
the whole mess with a good quality mattress cover.  I bought all
of it at an upholstery supply shop, cut to fit, for about $250.

Bob

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William Boyd - 21 Jan 2006 17:22 GMT
>>>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
>>>could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
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>
> Bob

That is the reply I was waiting for. I remember when you got the
mattress, you posted about it then. But I forgot who it was and how it
was constructed. I knew it would take an act of congress to get a good
mattress in to the 5er. I have been doing some measuring and it appears
to not be impossible to get a complete mattress in to position. Did you
make any attempt to do so before you took the piece at a time rout.
I appreciate your information. :-)

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Pepperoni - 21 Jan 2006 17:46 GMT
>> One reason the ones they come with are cheap, besides being
>> inexpensive, is that many of them have to be bent nearly double
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> make any attempt to do so before you took the piece at a time rout.
> I appreciate your information. :-)

I like to use two twin <extra long> mattresses on a king size frame.  It is
easier to make the beds.  Being single, I don't need the entire bed usually.
I use two matching twin bedspreads and just leave one side covered  Keep
both tightly tucked in the middle seam and just throw back the spread on the
side I want to use.    Morning makeup is simple, straighten the sheet and
flip the bedspread  (still tucked into the middle seam) back into place.

     King Mattress Size 76" wide x 80" long

     King Split Mattress 78" wide x 80" long
     Two Twin Extra Long beds together
William Boyd - 21 Jan 2006 18:42 GMT
>>>One reason the ones they come with are cheap, besides being
>>>inexpensive, is that many of them have to be bent nearly double
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>       King Split Mattress 78" wide x 80" long
>       Two Twin Extra Long beds together

Unfortunately the beds in an Rv is kinda built in so to speak. The queen
is 60X80" and the space to put the mattress is the same. No box springs
just a mattress. Closet on one side built in night stand on the other.

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Pepperoni - 21 Jan 2006 20:15 GMT
>>       King Mattress Size 76" wide x 80" long
>>
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> is 60X80" and the space to put the mattress is the same. No box springs
> just a mattress. Closet on one side built in night stand on the other.

Haha. I had a problem deciding how to sleep with a 6 foot box.  Even a small
twin is too long to fit.  I just carry my mattress topper and a minus 30
rated sleeping bag for winter emergency.  Thats a hefty bag.  I push the bag
into its stuff sack, roll the topper around it and use a poly trash bag a a
stuff sack for the whole roll.

No winter this year, fishing season is here, so I installed the "kitchen"
in the Ranger.  An electric (12v) Coleman cooler and 2  matching color
coordinated milk crates.  (One for staples and one for the Hibachi and
charcoal)   I like to take off on a whim, fishing   and exploring..  Nice to
have the fixin's to make hot soup and coffee or a nice steak.

New awning, too.  5x8 blue tarp was on sale for a couple buckies at ACO.

I was in Springfield Mo for Christmas.  I thought to wonder if you were
home,  but I scooted back north between two nasty storms.  Last I heard, you
were headed for Texas.  I have relatives in Alabama, but woulden't walk
across the road to see most of them.

While I was in Mo., I started thinking about buying a lot big enough to
plant a mailbox and pour a wide driveway.   I would just need a  shed
building and maybe a couple utility poles to run electric service.  Looking
at pushers, but  really wanting something shorter.  It would be nice to have
a place in the middle of the country.

Pepperoni
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Don't laugh, mine is "paid for".
William Boyd - 22 Jan 2006 00:16 GMT
> Haha. I had a problem deciding how to sleep with a 6 foot box.  Even a small
> twin is too long to fit.  I just carry my mattress topper and a minus 30
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> Astro aluminum cap
> Don't laugh, mine is "paid for".

Hello Pep. That sounds like a good sleeping arrangement and pretty fair
kitchen. Reminds me of some I have had in the past. I used a Coleman
white gas camp stove for years. In fact that was my only kitchen stove
when I was stationed up in Newfoundland in the 50s.
Headed for Texas every chance I get but am at a stalemate right now.
Sold the ranch acreage and have rebuilt the barn to home base out of
for now, but still have to get the new roof on the house so I can sell
it and 2 of the 4 acres I have left. That will give a place to stop by
in the spring and fall between trips south in the winter and north in
the summer. I have family every where so I can have places to visit,
fairly well spread out, Maine, Alabama, Oklahoma and Texas.

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Rtavi - 05 Mar 2006 04:09 GMT
After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought a
3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great I put
one on bet in house.

>>>>One reason the ones they come with are cheap, besides being
>>>>inexpensive, is that many of them have to be bent nearly double
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> is 60X80" and the space to put the mattress is the same. No box springs
> just a mattress. Closet on one side built in night stand on the other.
William Boyd - 05 Mar 2006 13:47 GMT
> After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought a
> 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great I put
> one on bet in house.

If I were to add a layer of foam to my existing mattress it
would be to thick, and would still have those springs in it.
I am afraid I am destine to have to get the entire new
mattress. One with memory foam as part of the construction.
I understand from some one else here that they use about
three different layers of foam at differing density and glue
them together. We have had this discussion here in the past,
I will just have to quit being a procrastinator and get out
there and find a new mattress.

BILL P.

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MoParMaN - 05 Mar 2006 14:05 GMT
>> After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought
>> a 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great I
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>
> BILL P.

Someone posted on this or the other newsgroup some time ago about a place in
Fort Worth that makes beds.  I went by there three weeks ago and they are
really nice and fit the RV.  They are a single mattress with springs and a
nice top cover.  Just like a regular bed.  We bought one for our Mountaineer
for around 220.00 delivered.  It was so good, we bought 2 more sets and a
bed for the house.

Royal Sleep Products
P.O. Box 7362
Fort Worth, TX 76111
1-800-834-2473

I'm sure they could help.
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William Boyd - 06 Mar 2006 03:06 GMT
>>>After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought
>>>a 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great I
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>
> I'm sure they could help.
Thanks, I have family there I'll have them contact the company.

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Dave Woodruff - 06 Mar 2006 05:17 GMT
>>>>After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought
>>>>a 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great
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>> I'm sure they could help.
> Thanks, I have family there I'll have them contact the company.

A little more money I know, but the wife and I both have back problems, mine
pretty bad.  We are FT and our mattress was starting to wear down a bit and
we replaced it with the RV sized Select Comfort Air Bed.  Very comfortable,
and they do come in the Queen Short used in many RVs.

Dave W
William Boyd - 07 Mar 2006 16:14 GMT
>>>>>After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up bought
>>>>>a 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt so great
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>
> Dave W

Thanks I'll look in to that too.

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L. C. Clower - 08 Mar 2006 11:44 GMT
Also, United Mattress in Denton

>>>>>>After first night in our Outback 5th wheel I couldn't straiten up
>>>>>>bought a 3inch memory foam topper from overstock.com for $149 it felt
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>> Dave W
> Thanks I'll look in to that too.
Bob Giddings - 21 Jan 2006 19:04 GMT
>>>>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
>>>>could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>make any attempt to do so before you took the piece at a time rout.
>I appreciate your information. :-)

No.  Every mattress I looked at that was firm enough didn't look
as if I could bend it enough to get it in there through hallway.
I didn't do this all at once.  I bought the stiff foam in El
Paso, the memory foam somewhere in California, and the medium
foam in Austin.  Actually the memory foam was salvaged from one
of the more expensive air mattresses that failed.

But you can get it all in one place, and save the travel.  :o)

Just go down to the upholstery shop and start stacking foam until
you get the combo you like.  As a last resort you can always cut
it in half to get it into the bedroom and glue it together.  They
have some great glue.

But it bends pretty good in the queen size.

www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings
William Boyd - 21 Jan 2006 19:24 GMT
>>>>>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
>>>>>could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
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>
> www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings

With my floor plan there would be no bending at all.

http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=8&cat=Fifth%20Wheels&pag
e=wild&loc=wcfw&direc=fifthwheels/wildcat/floorplans


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Jim Redelfs - 22 Jan 2006 00:34 GMT
> With my floor plan there would be no bending at all.
>
> http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=8&cat=Fifth%20Wheels&p
> age=wild&loc=wcfw&direc=fifthwheels/wildcat/floorplans

That's a nice floor plan.  What really surprises me is that it indicates a
STANDARD-sized Queen bed.  Almost all of the rigs I've looked at include a
"short" Queen.  I recall they're 60x74-inches.

Do folks with SHORT Queen beds have to buy special linens?

Virtually the FIRST improvement I made to my camper when new was to replace
the factory "mattress".   What a piece o' dey CRAP!!

In fact, I left it at the dealership and towed the trailer directly to the
furniture store where I purchased a Simmons Beauty Rest.  It was a little
awkward at the loading dock as the rig was parked a short distance away.  I
asked the delivery man to help me load it into the camper.  He did.  It was
close but no folding necessary.

Mrs. MacWidow (my wife, Leslie) claims to sleep better on the camper bed than
our (good) queen in the house.  That figures...
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William Boyd - 22 Jan 2006 00:43 GMT
> That's a nice floor plan.  What really surprises me is that it indicates a
> STANDARD-sized Queen bed.  Almost all of the rigs I've looked at include a
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> Mrs. MacWidow (my wife, Leslie) claims to sleep better on the camper bed than
> our (good) queen in the house.  That figures...

The full 80" mattress is one of their sales points.
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Graphic Queen - 22 Jan 2006 17:34 GMT
>> That's a nice floor plan.  What really surprises me is that it indicates a
>> STANDARD-sized Queen bed.  Almost all of the rigs I've looked at include a
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>
>The full 80" mattress is one of their sales points.

yes it is biut most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
Jim Redelfs - 23 Jan 2006 03:58 GMT
> most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.

I respectfully disagree.

Until you get into upper mid-range RVs, virtually all have "short" queens.  At
least, that is my conclusion after looking around a lot.

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William Boyd - 23 Jan 2006 06:35 GMT
>>most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
>
> I respectfully disagree.
>
> Until you get into upper mid-range RVs, virtually all have "short" queens.  At
> least, that is my conclusion after looking around a lot.

Well that is not all together it either. For example the Arctic Fox. The
TT has two of the longer rigs with the 60X80 but all others have the
smaller 58X74.5. In the 5ers it appears as though there are more with
the large size as compared to the TT.
http://www.northwoodmfg.com/2006/nash_trailers.htm

The Nash seems to offer several sizes of mattresses but again only the
longer ones gets the big bed.
http://www.northwoodmfg.com/2006/nash_5thwheel.htm

But the Wildcat by Forrest River has the large bed in all the 5ers and
the smaller one in all of the TTs, dont make sense.

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Graphic Queen - 23 Jan 2006 15:38 GMT
>>>most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
>>
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>But the Wildcat by Forrest River has the large bed in all the 5ers and
>the smaller one in all of the TTs, dont make sense.

Yeah, I see that with TTs also. Fifth wheels for the most part are
starting to have the full size queen in most of the ones made these
days.
Graphic Queen - 23 Jan 2006 15:37 GMT
>> most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
>
>I respectfully disagree.
>
>Until you get into upper mid-range RVs, virtually all have "short" queens.  At
>least, that is my conclusion after looking around a lot.

Sheeesh!! I am talking about fifth wheels that cost from $15,000 and
up. If you buy something costing less then you deserve to have
cheaper.
William Boyd - 23 Jan 2006 15:52 GMT
>>>most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
>>
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> up. If you buy something costing less then you deserve to have
> cheaper.
I didn't know they had any thing out there that cheap.

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Janet Wilder - 23 Jan 2006 17:15 GMT
>>>most offer the full 80' queen now-a-days.
>>
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> up. If you buy something costing less then you deserve to have
> cheaper.

Do they even make fifth wheels that cheap? If anything they are getting
more expensive. We were just at a small RV show and anything that didn't
appear like it would fall apart over the first reilroad crossing it
encountered was well over $40,000. That doesn't account for a truck that
has to be at least $30,000 and probably more.  If I were to replace our
2000 Kountry Aire and Freightliner at today's retail prices, It would
cost about $300,000. Class A's are cheaper than a good fiver and truck.

JMHO,
J
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canoli@sbcglobal.net - 23 Jan 2006 20:03 GMT
>Do they even make fifth wheels that cheap? If anything they are getting
>more expensive. We were just at a small RV show and anything that didn't
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>JMHO,
>J
Shouldn't that be 'some' Class A's?

RVsonline has about sixty used mhs over $300K, with most over $500K.
You're right on the money about a Kountry Aire and Freightliner, since
they list those, purchased used and separately, for $295K.

Canoli
Janet Wilder - 24 Jan 2006 21:18 GMT
>>Do they even make fifth wheels that cheap? If anything they are getting
>>more expensive. We were just at a small RV show and anything that didn't
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>
> Canoli

I stand corrected.

After visiting a couple of RV shows, I was surprised with the number of
very nice Diesel pushers available for under $200,000.  If one already
has the toad and has no other preferences between trailering or
motorhoming, IMHO,in general, a motorhome seems to be a more economical
purchase.

J
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Cindy - 24 Jan 2006 12:47 GMT
> I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
> could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
> each side. The Memory foam ones are so high, like $1,000 a copy. There
> must be one that could be in the middle for comfort. When I take an
> afternoon nap on the couch, I think I rest better.

I couldn't stand the mattress in our Class C. Husband liked it. So we
went out and bought a Dual Zone Aerobed. Cost $219 (Had a 20% off
coupon). Now we are both happy and the weight of the Aerobed is a lot
lower than the other mattress. We have to deflate it and roll it up and
put in the house in the winter when we have the heat off in the coach,
but that's okay with us. We put 2 twin foam toppers from Wal-Mart on top
of it to because the cold from the underside of the bed came through the
bed.
William Boyd - 24 Jan 2006 15:27 GMT
>>I think the mattress that came with my rig is about as sorry as you
>>could get. It is a standard 60X80" box springs with a thin blanket on
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> of it to because the cold from the underside of the bed came through the
> bed.
The cubbieholes that rv beds are located in does not lend it's self to
proper assembly each morning when there are several layers of mattress.
My daughter and her husband have one of the inflatable beds, but as you
pointed out they can be cold. But I slept on air mattresses in the
military enough that that is no longer an option. I think the three
sheets of foam glued together with a cover on it would be my answer, so
long as it is not to thick that the fitted sheet will not stay on.

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Dan Listermann - 24 Jan 2006 15:54 GMT
> My daughter and her husband have one of the inflatable beds, but as you
> pointed out they can be cold. But I slept on air mattresses in the
> military enough that that is no longer an option. I think the three sheets
> of foam glued together with a cover on it would be my answer, so long as
> it is not to thick that the fitted sheet will not stay on.

We use a air mattress with a foam pad on top.  To me, it is as comfortable
as any normal mattress.  The pad keeps your skin away from the plastic.

Dan
 
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