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New 5th wheeler

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lmbevard - 08 Feb 2006 11:59 GMT
Just wanted to brag that we just bought a 2006 30' Outback FW and pick it up
this Friday. We feel in love with the styling and openness inside. the
dealer made us a deal that we couldn't refuse. Hopefully we will get to use
it yet this month, depends on what this weather does. It has been up to 60
earlier this month in Iowa, but now is only 29. See you on the open road.

Larry
2000 Dodge 1t duelly deciel
2006 Outback
lanman - 08 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
>Just wanted to brag that we just bought a 2006 30' Outback FW and pick it up
>this Friday. We feel in love with the styling and openness inside. the
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>2000 Dodge 1t duelly deciel
>2006 Outback

What was the list price and what did you pay, if you don't mind me
aksing. How did you negotiate with the dealer to get your price. I'm
looking for an RV myself and am looking for buying tips.
lmbevard - 12 Feb 2006 14:20 GMT
Just picked it up Friday and drove it home last night. First time I towed
anything this big but it handles well with the 1T duelly diesel.
I got it for $27,000 including taxes, liec. and a new hitch and break
controller. It listed at over $38,000 and they discounted it to $28,900 and
gave me $4000 for trade on a '95 flagstaff popup. The dealer was easy to
work with and the guy that gave a walkthrough of the camper was great. At
least I have seen how everything works, now if I remember this spring. The
only problem is to try to find a place to store this thing until I get a
spot cleared next to the house that I hopfully will fit into. Can't wait
till spring.

Larry
2006 30' Outback FW
2000 Dodge 1T duelly Diesel

>>Just wanted to brag that we just bought a 2006 30' Outback FW and pick it
>>up
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Lee - 12 Feb 2006 14:40 GMT
> Just picked it up Friday and drove it home last night. First time I towed
> anything this big but it handles well with the 1T duelly diesel.
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> spot cleared next to the house that I hopfully will fit into. Can't wait
> till spring.

Hi

Congratulations on your new 5th Wheel.  Why park it until spring?
Wait until you back it up and see how big it looks compared to when
you saw it on the sales lot.  I had a drive expanded for my MH and to
my surprise it was a lot bigger than it appeared.  Glad all my
neighbors are not the bitchy type.

L e e  (Florida)
Jim Redelfs - 13 Feb 2006 05:32 GMT
> I had a drive expanded for my MH and to
> my surprise it was a lot bigger than it appeared.

Ditto that.   :\

I had a contractor install what I thought was a HUGE concrete driveway
expansion a few years back.  I recall I thought I was being VERY generous with
the width.  Yeah, right...   <sigh>

If I ever get an RV with a slideout room, I'll have to add at least two more
feet to the width of the drive.  [grumbling]

Advice to those adding a drive next to their home for an RV.  Measure BIG,
then add a bunch.  Then, when you're ready to actually POUR the drive, add two
more feet!

> Glad all my neighbors are not the bitchy type.

Ditto that.  Thank God for friendly (and accommodating) neighbors.  Thank God
also because I am in compliance with the surprisingly few restrictions on RV
parking here.  My neighbors would have one heck of a time getting me to walk
away from the $thousands$ I paid for the concrete driveway and start PAYING
for, and putting up with the hassle of, off-site storage.

The most relaxing thing about camping, next to camping itself, is storing the
rig RIGHT NEXT to my home.
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2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT
2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000

lanman - 13 Feb 2006 22:44 GMT
>Just picked it up Friday and drove it home last night. First time I towed
>anything this big but it handles well with the 1T duelly diesel.
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>2006 30' Outback FW
>2000 Dodge 1T duelly Diesel

Thank-you for the response. It seems 25-30% off list is the norm. A
few good hagglers do a little better, some worse. I was talking to a
salesman at an RV show recently. He said they were having a "show
sale" and offered me a price on one unit that he said was the lowest
price anywhere. Afterwards, a couple who had overheard our
conversation approached me and said they had the near same unit and
bought it in Atlanta for nearly $5K less than the price I was just
offered. Atlanta is about 500 miles from where I live, and I think I'd
drive 500 miles for a $5K savings - provided I can get service and
warranty problems resolved locally.

Can you (or anyone in the group) comment on the wisdom of buying away
from home to get a better price. Mind you, I wouln't bother for a
couple thousand, but a $5K savings got my attention.

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JerryD(upstateNY) - 13 Feb 2006 20:34 GMT
Before you drive 500 miles to get a better price, go to the salesman you
talked to at the RV show and tell him you can buy the same rig in Atlanta
for $5,000 less and he can match the price or you buy in Atlanta.
But I would check first and see if you really can buy the same thing in
Atlanta for 5 G's less.

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Thank-you for the response. It seems 25-30% off list is the norm. A
few good hagglers do a little better, some worse. I was talking to a
salesman at an RV show recently. He said they were having a "show
sale" and offered me a price on one unit that he said was the lowest
price anywhere. Afterwards, a couple who had overheard our
conversation approached me and said they had the near same unit and
bought it in Atlanta for nearly $5K less than the price I was just
offered. Atlanta is about 500 miles from where I live, and I think I'd
drive 500 miles for a $5K savings - provided I can get service and
warranty problems resolved locally.

Can you (or anyone in the group) comment on the wisdom of buying away
from home to get a better price. Mind you, I wouln't bother for a
couple thousand, but a $5K savings got my attention.

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wwemu@cwnet.com - 14 Feb 2006 00:11 GMT
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:34:44 GMT, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"
<jerry@righthere.com> wrote:

>Before you drive 500 miles to get a better price, go to the salesman you
>talked to at the RV show and tell him you can buy the same rig in Atlanta
>for $5,000 less and he can match the price or you buy in Atlanta.
>But I would check first and see if you really can buy the same thing in
>Atlanta for 5 G's less.

Also, think seriously about the warranty items.  Normally the warranty
states: The manufacturer and the selling dealer warrant.......  If you
buy from another dealer, the local dealer has no responsibility to
you. Might get to be a hassle.  

George
Jim Redelfs - 14 Feb 2006 01:51 GMT
> Also, think seriously about the warranty items.  Normally the warranty
> states: The manufacturer and the selling dealer warrant.......  If you
> buy from another dealer, the local dealer has no responsibility to
> you.

Oh, I dunno...

If I buy a brand new Chevy in Omaha, only to have it break down within its
factory warranty period in Longville, Minnesota, 500-miles away, I suspect
that any authorized Chevrolet service center can - and will - perform warranty
work.

I'll bet Fleetwood, for example, can (and does) easily exert pressure on a
dealership to perform warranty work on their products EVEN THOUGH they weren't
purchased at that particular dealership.

> Might get to be a hassle.

Oh, absolutely!  The chances of receiving better after-the-sale warranty work
are MUCH better at the same place where you bought the rig than at another
outlet - particularly during high season.

Still, at a ten bucks/mile ($5k), if that actually pans out, it would be WORTH
the hassle of having to WAIT for local warranty work, if it came to that.
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L'l John - 14 Feb 2006 03:00 GMT
| > Also, think seriously about the warranty items.  Normally the warranty
| > states: The manufacturer and the selling dealer warrant.......  If you
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| Still, at a ten bucks/mile ($5k), if that actually pans out, it would be WORTH
| the hassle of having to WAIT for local warranty work, if it came to that.

My experience:

I bought a Discovery Motorhome from Bankston RV in Huntsville, Al. (225
miles from home). When I had some small things that needed attention during
the warranty period, I took it to Chilhowee RV (an authorized Fleetwood
dealer), in Alcoa, TN. (50 miles from home).
The service manager asked me where I bought the Motorhome and when I told
him, he told me to take it back to where I bought it.
Well, I did.
But I have not been back to Chilhowee RV for anything since!
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John
lmbevard - 14 Feb 2006 12:01 GMT
The dealer I bought it from belongs to a network of dealers that are suppose
to work together on service issues. In fact, there are two dealers about 50
miles away that are authorized in the network BOTOH the dealer I bought from
is only 110 miles away. That was the main reason that I bought from further
away, the only close dealer is 25 miles away, 5 dealers about 50 miles away
and then a bunch about 100. the "local" dealers have very little to choose
from and could not match the deal.

Larry

> | > Also, think seriously about the warranty items.  Normally the warranty
> | > states: The manufacturer and the selling dealer warrant.......  If you
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> Well, I did.
> But I have not been back to Chilhowee RV for anything since!
diggerodell@gmail.com - 13 Feb 2006 23:03 GMT
Imbevard's comment toward their new Outback  "...fell in love with the
styling and openness inside" reminded me of our recent peek inside
Outback Travel Trailers.  Their unique white cabinetry (interior)
seemed to enhance that open feeling and am wondering if this might have
accounted for Imbevard's feelings.  In other words, does their 5th W
also have the white interior?
lmbevard - 14 Feb 2006 11:54 GMT
Yes it does, and I agree with you that that is one of the things that makes
it seem so open. Also the closets in the bedroom only come up to my
shoulder, so you have that sense of openedness, no more cabinet wall in your
face.

On another note, just had to back the 5th into a drive for the first time
last night and didn't do really bad. Took two stabs at hitting the drive but
keep going off angled, so had a few back and forths. Still got to get my
wife to talk to me about where the rear end of the camper is instead of
standing there and waiting until I hit something. Oh well, we're learning.

Larry

> Imbevard's comment toward their new Outback  "...fell in love with the
> styling and openness inside" reminded me of our recent peek inside
> Outback Travel Trailers.  Their unique white cabinetry (interior)
> seemed to enhance that open feeling and am wondering if this might have
> accounted for Imbevard's feelings.  In other words, does their 5th W
> also have the white interior?
Jim Redelfs - 14 Feb 2006 13:42 GMT
> got to get my wife to talk to me about where the rear end of the camper
> is instead of standing there and waiting until I hit something.
> Oh well, we're learning.

After many years, my wife and I get along perfectly well when backing-into a
site.  I get out and scope-out the site and decide how I will (try) to back in.

Leslie is backe there as a Human Proximity Detector only.  I do NOT make her
responsible for my ability - or lack thereof - to back-in properly.  Her job
is to basically scream like a Banshee if the camper is about to hit something.
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John Andrews - 15 Feb 2006 02:00 GMT
>>got to get my wife to talk to me about where the rear end of the camper
>>is instead of standing there and waiting until I hit something.
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> responsible for my ability - or lack thereof - to back-in properly.  Her job
> is to basically scream like a Banshee if the camper is about to hit something.

I do pretty much the same thing, but I station Mrs. A at the
point where I want the drivers side rear corner to end up.  That
way I can see her and aim for that spot.  She has sense enough
to get out of the way.  (I still love her after 46 years...)

John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee
John Andrews - 15 Feb 2006 01:56 GMT
> Yes it does, and I agree with you that that is one of the things that makes
> it seem so open. Also the closets in the bedroom only come up to my
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> Larry

Make sure to tell her to look up when backing into a campsite
with trees.  It took me a while to get Mrs. A to do that.  Those
little FRS radios also help.  Make sure she pushes the button
BEFORE she starts to talk.  Took me a whle to get Mrs. A to do
that, too.

>>Imbevard's comment toward their new Outback  "...fell in love with the
>>styling and openness inside" reminded me of our recent peek inside
>>Outback Travel Trailers.  Their unique white cabinetry (interior)
>>seemed to enhance that open feeling and am wondering if this might have
>>accounted for Imbevard's feelings.  In other words, does their 5th W
>>also have the white interior?
Chris Cowles - 15 Feb 2006 02:47 GMT
> On another note, just had to back the 5th into a drive for the first time
> last night and didn't do really bad. Took two stabs at hitting the drive
> but keep going off angled, so had a few back and forths. Still got to get
> my wife to talk to me about where the rear end of the camper is instead of
> standing there and waiting until I hit something. Oh well, we're learning.

Get a radio. It helps.
 
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