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Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure hunting with a metal detector has been one, Bird watching another. What else is there? I would think the metal detector would be more of what I would like. What are the brand name and model that has produced good reliable results? Does any one do any gold mining/panning? -  SignatureBILL P. 2004, 2500 SLT Quad Cab, Dodge Ram, SLT, SWB, 2WD, 5.9 HO Turbo Diesel, 48RE Auto Trans, Anti-Spin 3.73 Dif.Rhino Liner, Husky 16K. Voyager Controller 2005, 27RL Wildcat, DT/PC Wi-Fi. Dual EU2000i Hondas Just Me and Dog > Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure > hunting with a metal detector has been one, Bird watching > another. What else is there? I would think the metal > detector would be more of what I would like. What are the > brand name and model that has produced good reliable > results? Does any one do any gold mining/panning? You fail to mention the most satisfying alternative. > Just Me and Dog Oh, now I understand. :-) Jenny 1. Fishing! 2. Drinking beer. 3. Fishing while drinking beer. Directions on how to do both at www.fishwisher.com > > Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure > > hunting with a metal detector has been one, Bird watching [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jenny Most people don't talk about masterbating in public. > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >Most people don't talk about masterbating in public. > Well DOG does not have any nuts at all, and it has been so long that I may not have an operational pair either. :-( Thanks Jenny :-[ SignatureBill P. :-) just Dog & ME At this time in life all that remains is left overs, some can be cherished as good others bad, but the only definite is that they are all that remains, main course is over. > Most people don't talk about masterbating in public. Did you mean "most people don't talk in public about masturbating?" I mean, masturbating in public seems SO gauche. KH > > Most people don't talk about masterbating in public. > > Did you mean "most people don't talk in public about masturbating?" I > mean, masturbating in public seems SO gauche. > > KH I see your point! >> Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure >> hunting with a metal detector has been one, Bird watching [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >:-) Iffin I ever get around to a sig, it's ME and dogs (I have 2) > Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure hunting with a > metal detector has been one, Bird watching another. What else is there? I > would think the metal detector would be more of what I would like. What > are the brand name and model that has produced good reliable results? Does > any one do any gold mining/panning? > - I have owned White's products since 1980. I am totally satisfied with it. I do not have the top of the line latest unit, but the one I do have will find whatever's there. It is learning how to use the unit, not the unit that is important. And learning the clues. Old foundations (of course). Purple glass (pre 1910, approx.) Square nails. And a bit of history in researching old home sites, old parks, and old places. Fire rings. Hunter's camp sites. Old, old roads. Swimming holes. Beaches. There are a couple of kinds of metal detectors. There are some that are very good for finding coins, one of the easiest things to find. They will also find other things, but you have to learn how to lessen the sensitivity controls. This is the one that finds the most "stuff." About $500 new, some more. Less used. Sending the unit back to the manufacturer has cost me about $60 for a full rehab about every four years. Then there are those designed to find gold. In areas where gold occurs, there is a lot of "black sand" that makes the average detector respond giving a false reading. There are also a lot of mineralized rocks that show up as targets, but aren't anything. A gold detector will filter out these things and react just to gold. Same story on price. They can also help you find meteorites, some of which are worth a lot of money. Do not buy anything but a top of the line. White's, Tesoro, Garrett, and by now, probably some new ones. If you buy a good one, you won't ever have to buy another, and you won't become dissatisfied with it soon. You will find more stuff with it if you learn how to properly use it, which I would imagine at 120 hours to become expert. You will start finding stuff in the first ten minutes. Go to playgrounds and parks. Be careful and don't dig big holes in the grass. Use an ice pick to probe, and a knife to dig out as small a plug from the grass as you can. Groundskeepers can be pretty narly. Playgrounds have sand boxes, and that's a good place to start. As for gold, you can get books on placer deposits in (substitute state) at lots of local libraries in their state reference sections. They are put out by mining agencies. You are not interested in hard rock gold deposits because you have to crunch a lot of rock to get the gold. You are interested in placer deposits that are weathered out of the rock, and either on the surface or in streams. This will take you directly to known placer producing areas. For streams, a basic pan with riffles, and a screen will cost you around $20 for both. If you learn how to do it, and like it, you can go up from there. For dry areas, a metal detector is the way to go. A White's Gold Bug is good, but go in and talk and talk and talk to the technogeeks. There may be a new model by now. These are an investment, but you can recoup the whole cost with one find, and that's not exaggerating one bit. A friend of mine found a seven ounce nugget. Another found an old coin worth $1200. Again, a little research will help you define the bullseye on the target you are shooting at. It is right ahead of luck, because if you are searching where historically there is stuff, it is better than just going anywhere. Lastly, there is arrowhead collecting. PLEASE HOLD THE FLAMES BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD THEM ALL. Learn to recognize lithic debitage. It is everywhere, and you have already walked past a ton of it not knowing what it is. It is the flakes left over from the production of lithic tools. ONLY look on the surface. In open areas, such as desert and newly plowed fields, have the sun in front of you. Look for things that look like pieces of glass. Never dig. Check the rules for the area you are in so you are not searching in an archaeological site. Private property only requires the permission of the owner, and many are very tolerant. Ask fot tips from the landowners re: heads and metal detecting. They have even directed me to old foundations and outbuildings that I would have never recognized as having been there. It is something you can be doing while metal detecting. If you find a very large area, or something that looks like it is eroding out, such as a burial site, notify the local university, and perhaps they will allow you to be a volunteer on that dig. You won't be able to keep anything, but being there is sure a kick. A dirty dusty back aggravating kick, but an experience nonetheless. The few arrowheads, broken arrowheads, potsherds, tools, and beads that can be picked up by the average person in their lifetime is miniscule, and does not affect archaeology. This will be disputed by archaeology, but we are talking about an arrowhead lost by some Indian thousands of years ago, and not some burial site or significant find. You would report that. This last suggestion is entirely up to you. Just as with metal detecting, be sure that the area does not have restrictions. State laws vary on arrowheads. For the Great Basin area, surface collecting is allowed provided you don't dig, use any digging tool, or go onto any defined archaeological site. The Great Basin encompasses areas of Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Oregon, and California. Educating yourself is the best way to go. Final tip: when you are out, you are finding NOTHING. Not any luck at all. You might be talking to a ranger, or some fanatical tree hugger, or someone who can just be a PITA. A metal detector (or two) take up very little room. Nor does a gold pan and a strainer and a shovel. Buy the rechargeable nimh batteries and save money there. And be on the watch for old bottles, and just old stuff in general. In some old boondocking sites, you could be standing on valuable "stuff". And I have found arrowheads within ten feet of the car. Sorry for the length. I like doing this stuff, it is fun, you can find very interesting and valuable things, it gets you into the history of the area, it brings you in contact with homeowners, and .......... you get to keep what you find. Steve Steve B wrote:<snip> >Steve > > Thanks a lot Steve, this is more information than I hoped for. Assured to put it to good use. SignatureBill P. just Dog & ME At this time in life all that remains is left overs, some can be cherished as good others bad, but the only definite is that they are all that remains, main course is over. > Steve B wrote:<snip> > >>Steve >> > Thanks a lot Steve, this is more information than I hoped for. Assured to > put it to good use. Yer welcome. A metal detector and a couple of gold pans don't take up a lot of space. And when you are just rolling down the road, or pull down onto a dirt road, and there's an old foundation out there, it's pretty exciting. For me, to see some purple glass, and knowing that I am searching a spot that could have coins that go back to the mid 1800s is pretty exciting, even if I don't find anything. Steve > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Lets go shopping, look at these. I consider when a person reaches a certain age he looses some of his learning skills. So, I look to the more expensive gear in the subject category. I usually find some things will operate with more automation, good. But some of the more expensive systems just have a lot more bells and whistles, bad. http://www.whiteselectronics.com/detectorlineup.php#eseries What would be your choice with what I commented about on price. SignatureBill P. just Dog & ME > Lets go shopping, look at these. I consider when a person reaches a > certain age he looses [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What would be your choice with what I commented about on price. Well, considering that you want one that is going to function and do it right and be dependable, you are smart in budgeting for a good detector from the get go. I am familiar with the old 5000 and 6000 series. These are available on ebay for a song, but they are not nearly as automatic as these new point and shoot things. Kind of like the analogy between the old focus and shoot film cameras. Good if you knew how to work them, and if you were paying attention, but nowhere near automatic. Now, all you do is point and shoot, and you can't take a bad picture. A $500-$700 budget is reasonable. You will be buying a lifetime machine, and they look very easy to use. Mine is an old 6DB, but I know how to use it so well that I can find "stuff". I would suggest that in your travels that you find a shop and go in and talk with someone who is familiar with these. I am not familiar at all with the new ones, and there seems to be several to choose from. The PI is a great one for the beach, as they are resistant to salt water, and they are sealed well enough to scuba dive with some of them. If you really get into it, you may want one for just beach searching, as sand, humidity, and salt water can wreck a regular one. Unless you just want the top of the line, one of the midrange models should do all you want. But talking to the tekkie would be best. I notice there is one that has several modes. That one may be good for both coin hunting, and gold nugget hunting in highly mineralized soils. Then there is the one that is suggested more for coins and jewelry. I would suggest the one that will work in the most environments, save the saltwater beach type of hunting, which would require a special one that will last. Don't know how big a hurry you are go get one. I can try to get to the local store where they sell these and talk to a tekkie if you can't find one. The local store has always been very helpful even just for information. Steve > > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > I live in a small town several miles from a city large enough to have an electronics store with some one that knows any thing. I have seen some equipment in WalMart but I know the way that goes. Doubt that any one would have even opened a box up let alone using one. Then we have a Radio Shack, might be a little better, but I doubt it. I'll just have to do a web search for a dealer some where around the state. SignatureBill P. just Dog & ME At this time in life all that remains is left overs, some can be cherished as good others bad, but the only definite is that they are all that remains, main course is over. > I live in a small town several miles from a city large enough to have an > electronics store with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > might be a little better, but I doubt it. I'll just have to do a web > search for a dealer some where around the state. Yes, it would be the best to talk with someone who actually has used them. Look in your yellow pages, or in the Internet YP, and call a shop in a big city. With free long distance on most cells, the call will cost you nothing. Or, go to the White's site on the Internet, and ask your questions. I am sure they will be glad to send you catalogs and tech sheets to help you make your selection. That is one of the things I like about my White's. In 25 years, I have sent it in three times for service. But that was because I used it a lot. They always fixed it, and had it back to me in less than two weeks, and for a very reasonable price. Once they replaced the head, AND a printed circuit board (which is most of the detector) and charged me $40 for everything. Service after the sale is important, and with the cheapos you don't get that. You will with one of the top lines. STeve > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I am looking at the Beach Hunter ID, I like the two frequency search feature and salt protection . http://www.whiteselectronics.com/beachhunterw.php It appears as one that would be versatile as they can be. SignatureBill P. just Dog & ME After dark, there's astronomy. You can get as fancy as your budget will support, or as simple as your bare eyes.... You just need clear skies, dim or no lights, and a small area without trees. Recommended starter kit... a reclining lawn chair, a cheap book of star charts (1), a red-lens flashlight (2), and a pair of 7x50 binoculars. (1) There are printable charts on-line, along with more info than you can possibly read. (2) The flashlight can be improvised with a couple of layers of the red label plastic sheeting from a two-liter Coke bottle fastened over the lens of a regular flashlight. Not quite as good at preserving night vision as a purpose-made red light, but adequate for getting started. Allow yourself about 20 minutes to dark-adapt; night vision continues to improve for about an hour, but a very little white light sets you back. I usually replace a couple of the 12V bulbs in my little RV's light fixtures with red bulbs for a night of stargazing. Clear, dark skies! Jim, "Entropy never sleeps; do y'all?" > After dark, there's astronomy. You can get as fancy as your budget will > support, or as simple as your bare eyes.... You just need clear skies, > dim or no lights, and a small area without trees. > Jim, "Entropy never sleeps; do y'all?" We do "satellite races." We lay out watching the sky. Satellite pass over all the time. We see who can be the first to spot the most. You can recognize them by their speed. The most pass in one direction, so once you start seeing a pattern, they are a little easier to spot. In the meantime, there's billions of stars, one moon, and the occasional shooting star. Steve Thats not really anything like the "submarine races" we have up here near lake Michigan?? JCB >>After dark, there's astronomy. You can get as fancy as your budget will >>support, or as simple as your bare eyes.... You just need clear skies, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve > Thats not really anything like the "submarine races" we have up here near > lake Michigan?? > > JCB Only if it has the same outcome. (pun intended) While the presence/absence of the actual participants in a submarine race are subject to debate, satellites are real. The premise is the same, to go out and watch something in the dark. However, the results may vary when the dupee realizes that there are/are not actual racers. IOW, sometimes people are really amazed that there are actually satellites to be seen. OTOH, submarine race spectators are usually a little miffed when they realize they may have been duped. Unless, of course, other things have popped up in the meantime ............... ooooooooooooooooooooooooo Steve > Thats not really anything like the "submarine races" we have up here > near lake Michigan?? > > JCB Snipe Hunting has been enjoyed by many! >> Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure hunting with a >> metal detector has been one, Bird watching another. What else is there? I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >find whatever's there. It is learning how to use the unit, not the unit >that is important. I agree, but what frosts my buttons, was the decision of Texas Instruments to drop making theirs. (The TI 9000) I had a friend loan me his (I swore full replacement and soul if damaged They started at $900) and I didn't find squat.. So I took it back to him and said so. He smiled and had me come back the following weekend. I spent 5 hours LEARNING what to do and not. Not only was I going too fast, but not getting a "Feel" for the areas to search. Of course the bleachers, but imagine you're at a park and you're thinking of sitting with friends and want to relax, but not on a hard bench...Little things like that too.. I have laughed seeing "Free Offers" on some online free groups and many times I see a "Generic" metal detector listed and the excuse is "I don't have time" and the truth is "I bought a cheap POS and hate to admit it" :) Always buy brand and take your time learning it..It's a fun past time and can be exciting at times...Maybe one day for me... **all the wonderful stuff snipped** > Sorry for the length. I like doing this stuff, it is fun, you can find > very interesting and valuable things, it gets you into the history of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve Steve - this is just one of the best posts that I have ever read in all my years on Usenet. The detail and the passion just come through. Thanks for writing this. I have never done this. Now I want to. Tomes > **all the wonderful stuff snipped** > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I have never done this. Now I want to. > Tomes It makes you feel like a kid again. It sure is exciting to pop a 100+ year old coin out of the ground. Or an old brass button from the last century. Or even things a lot younger. I have found jars of coins. Military decorations. Brass buttons. Bra and overalls clasps. Tools. Horseshoes. A lot of it just junk, but fascinating. It gets the old mind working when you do a little detective work thinking, here was the house and there was the outhouse and there was the barn and the path would have been here Or you start finding things and making a mental map and doing associations between the articles you find. I have always loved history, and have said that if I could have been anything and money didn't matter, I would have wanted to be an archaeologist. And what's cool, is if you have to move on, you put it in a ledger, GPS it, and you can always stop back on the next trip for another search. Or to search more of the areas you didn't get to search. Draw a map to remind yourself, because in a year, you won't remember everything. Steve > Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure hunting with a > metal detector has been one, Bird watching another. What else is there? > I would think the metal detector would be more of what I would like. > What are the brand name and model that has produced good reliable > results? Does any one do any gold mining/panning? > - Reading? I know, out of fashion now, but still... Ken H William Boyd <williamboyd@cableone.net> wrote in news:45h53gF6mht4U2 @individual.net: > Entertainment While Boon Docking has discussed. Treasure > hunting with a metal detector has been one, Bird watching [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > results? Does any one do any gold mining/panning? > - Geocaching, maybe? > William Boyd <williamboyd@cableone.net> wrote in news:45h53gF6mht4U2 > @individual.net: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Geocaching, maybe? Did I miss the original? birdwatching, hiking, fishing, four wheelin', two wheelin', cooking, crafts, Dutchoven cooking,reading, the list goes on. (eating) > William Boyd <williamboyd@cableone.net> wrote in news:45h53gF6mht4U2 > @individual.net: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Geocaching, maybe? I am going to start, because I ride my ATV far into the countryside off main roads. We found one a few months ago in a very remote cave. We called the guy who left it. He has been leaving them for about five years now, and has many that are still to be found. He was really amazed because he had left this only a week previous. He said it took on the average one year for them to be found. We weren't looking, just climbing and found the cave. Steve |
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