Hi.
I am trying to find out if I can pull a '69 24 ft. camper with a 96 4
dr. Ford Explorer XLT?
Specs:
V8 5.0 Liter
All Wheel Drive
Bumper Hitch
ABS Brakes
Can I load some lighter weight stuff in that camper?
Thinking of an extra mattress set. and maybe clothes.
Then I think I need to put the heavier stuff (books, filing cab's) in
the Explorer.
Also, how much better off would I be with a Reese (sp?) hitch connected
to the frame?
Is it better to have the AWD engaged (if that's an option) while
pulling?
Any other tips?
Thanks for your help.
I can call you if necessary. I'm at: 608-220-3428
gac@ ladysword.com
I see where "sandi" <sandi_bekoe@ladysword.com> contributed:
>I am trying to find out if I can pull a '69 24 ft. camper with a 96 4
>dr. Ford Explorer XLT?
Sure. No problem. You can pull it with a yard tractor, too.
With roughly equal safety and handling. 8-(
Forgive the sarcasm, but PLEASE reconsider. There is NO WAY any
Explorer is really adequate for the job unless you are just talking
about CAREFULLY moving the trailer 25 miles to a CG.
Whole books have been written on the subject, and though some few
people insist they can "do" it, it is a dangerous combination, mainly
due to the short wheelbase of the Exploder.
Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
> Hi.
>
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> I can call you if necessary. I'm at: 608-220-3428
> gac@ ladysword.com
Don't, I say Don't do it, period!!!!
Hugh
>Hi.
>
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>I can call you if necessary. I'm at: 608-220-3428
>gac@ ladysword.com
Hi Sandi,
An Explorer doesn't make a good tow vehicle. It's not that the vehicle
can't pull the trailer it's that it has a short wheel base, and that
makes it subject to being forced around by the trailer. High winds or
tractor trailers passing, sudden evasive maneuvers etc. can cause the
trailer to rock back and forth causing the Explorer to veer from side to
side. Commonly called sway. If it gets bad enough you can end up in
the ditch.
You don't want to pull any travel trailer with a bumper hitch. You
need a frame mounted hitch. If you insist on towing with the Explorer
look into a Hensley Hitch or a PullRite hitch system. Both are
expensive, the Hensley more so. But both will make for better safer
towing.
You don't tow with AWD or 4 wheel drive engaged.
You need to do a lot more investigating into towing a travel trailer.
It's not just hook it up and go. You have to make sure your vehicle has
a large enough tow rating so you need to know the weights of the
Explorer and it's tow ratings and the weights of the trailer. How much
it weighs and how much you can put in it. Then you have to keep under
those limits. Tire size, age and air pressures matter on both the
trailer and tow vehicle.
Here are some sites you can to visit to learn a little more.
http://www.newrver.com/
http://www.rvknowhow.com/index.html
http://www.rvnetlinx.com/index.php
Take care and Happy Campin...

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RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
sandi - 10 Apr 2006 04:00 GMT
thanks to everybody. I'm convinced that I will not, NOT, N O T, try
towing with that Explorer.
I sure appreciate your help.
-Sandi
JerryD(upstateNY) - 10 Apr 2006 05:06 GMT
Sandi,
Glad to hear you aren't going to tow with that Explorer.
The problem is....you can get a false sense of security towing.
Say you hook it up and take off down the road.
At first you go 25 MPH expecting it to do "God only knows what".
It seems to be fine so you increase your speed and it still feels good.
Now you are crusing down the highway at 55 MPH, calling us all a bunch of
dumb dumbs.
Along comes an 18 wheeler at 75 MPH and blows you and the trailer completely
off the road.

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JerryD(upstateNY)
thanks to everybody. I'm convinced that I will not, NOT, N O T, try
towing with that Explorer.
I sure appreciate your help.
-Sandi
Dave Lee - 02 May 2006 04:26 GMT
But Sandi, I will tow your camper for you if you want!!
However, we have to share the site. :)
> thanks to everybody. I'm convinced that I will not, NOT, N O T, try
> towing with that Explorer.
>
> I sure appreciate your help.
>
> -Sandi
miles - 10 Apr 2006 05:17 GMT
> An Explorer doesn't make a good tow vehicle.
True but that depends on whats being pulled. It can handle a 20'
4,000lb trailer but not much more.
> You don't tow with AWD or 4 wheel drive engaged.
Are all Explorers part time AWD? Quite a few newer SUV's are full time
AWD and part time 4WD. For example, my 2004 Durango is full time AWD.
No way to switch it off. Great tow vehicle for smaller trailers too.
RichA - 10 Apr 2006 19:26 GMT
>> An Explorer doesn't make a good tow vehicle.
>
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>AWD and part time 4WD. For example, my 2004 Durango is full time AWD.
>No way to switch it off. Great tow vehicle for smaller trailers too.
Hi,
The Explorer doesn't make a good tow vehicle no matter what the weight
of the TT. It's the short wheel base that is the biggest problem.
Towing small pop ups maybe because they normally don't get moved around
that much by wind or passing trucks.
AWD is usually some type of special coupling that sends power to the
non drive wheels when the drive wheels start slipping. Can it be locked
in or out in some vehicles? Don't know. But the question was is it
better to have it engaged (if that's an option) while towing.
Take care and Happy Campin...

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RichA
"We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Will Sill - 10 Apr 2006 19:32 GMT
I see where Miles asked:
>>Are all Explorers part time AWD? Quite a few newer SUV's are full time
>>AWD and part time 4WD. For example, my 2004 Durango is full time AWD.
With no known exceptions, AWD means All Wheel Drive All The Time. No
driver-selected option. I dunno what you mean by "newer SUV's are
full time AWD and part time 4WD" unless you intend to say some are one
thing and some another. AFAIK none are both.
Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Frank Tabor - 10 Apr 2006 22:07 GMT
>I see where Miles asked:
>>>Are all Explorers part time AWD? Quite a few newer SUV's are full time
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>Will Sill
>The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
It means they have a "lock" selection just like the old 70's model full
time 4wd chevies had. They had hi and low, and hilock and low lock.
When they were unlocked, they were essentially the same as today's AWD
vehicles. In hilock and lowlock they were 4wd.

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Frank Tabor
Will Sill - 10 Apr 2006 12:23 GMT
I see where RichA <richatpa*nospam*@epix.net> contributed some
excellent advice as usual, but with ONE exception:
> You don't tow with AWD or 4 wheel drive engaged.
Not quite correct. It's more complicated than that.
By convention, the term "AWD" is normally applied to vehicles like our
Subaru: always in 4wd, no lo-range, no 2wd option, but with some sort
of center diff or viscous coupling. (I don't know any exceptions
though there may be some - and I don't recall ever seeing an Explorer
with AWD.) Though not necessarily suitable for towing otherwise,
AWD is no barrier to towing, though it often is to _being_ towed
4-down.
Conventional 4wd setups without a center differential should not be
driven on hard roads with 4wd engaged (hi or lo range) whether towing
or not. Reason: heavy tension on drive train due to inevitable small
difference in rolling radius fron to rear. Exceptions would include
vehicles like the Jeep Quadratrac setup, which has a "full time 4wd"
transfer case (with center diff) but which sux as a tow vehicle
anyway.
Will Sill
"A great many people think they are thinking when they
are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
Advocate - 10 Apr 2006 15:20 GMT
> By convention, the term "AWD" is normally applied to vehicles like our
> Subaru: always in 4wd, no lo-range, no 2wd option, but with some sort
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> AWD is no barrier to towing, though it often is to _being_ towed
> 4-down.
My fathers 2004 Explorer is AWD. He lives in a very hilly city that gets
alot of snow and claims for his use, it's the best four wheel drive he's
ever owned. AWD works great for vehicles that aren't used for serious off
road use...and I'd believe that close to 100% of all late model Explorers
will never be used in rock crawling or as swamp buggies.
I have been camping for decades...I followed the usual procession; two
person tent and a canoe, four person tent (to fit myself, wife and dog) a
couple of popup tent campers. The popup camper seemed to act like a rain
maker; every time it was set up the weather would change and it would rain
for weeks. Then I purchased a 21' light weight travel trailer and towed it
with a 1995 Chev Tahoe. The 350 engine pulled the camper with ease, but
every time I met a semi on the hwy, it was white knuckle time...the trailer
would indeed wag the dog. Side winds in the great plains states were
terrible...I was virtually all over my lane. I figured it was a fact of life
as the Tahoe is only a foot or so shorter than a Suburban. Traveling with
the travel trailer was no fun at all but I figured it must be a fact of
life.
I updated my tow vehicle to a full sized Chevrolet pickup with an extended
cab, short box. The wheel base on this vehicle was much longer than the
Tahoe. This truck with the 21' trailer combination towed like it was on
rails. I couldn't believe the difference. I now have a 26' TT and extended
cab pickup. This too handles the wind and meeting tractor/trailers very
well.
Don't ignore the advice regarding short wheel base vehicles...it's 100%
true. I used to "hate" my cross country trips with my stomach in knots and
white knuckles on the steering wheel. The rig couldn't seem to go a minute
without being jerked to one side or the other. Now I love the behind the
wheel time.
Will Sill - 10 Apr 2006 16:39 GMT
I see where "Advocate" <Advo@hotmail.com> contributed: concerning my
remark that:
> . . . I don't recall ever seeing an Explorer with AWD.)
A:
>My fathers 2004 Explorer is AWD.
I stand educated. I have still never seen one but believe they exist
now.
Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill