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babs.silver@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2006 04:02 GMT
New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
3).

We are looking for any feedback about traveling with kids this age.
Especially, information and advice about safely installing their car
seats.

Many thanks,
Barbara Silver
MoParMaN - 26 Apr 2006 04:09 GMT
> New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
> Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
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> Many thanks,
> Barbara Silver

It's been my experience that if you drown them little bastards at birth that
you will live allot longer.
I happen to have a kit, I call it "TOISDAB" (The One I SHoulda Drowned At
Birth) kit.  It consists of a large burlap bag, a large brick, and a tie
wrap.  Just insert kid and brick in bag, tie it off and throw off the
nearest bridge.....

I feel better already.

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Pauli G - 26 Apr 2006 04:15 GMT
> > New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
> > Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > Many thanks,
> > Barbara Silver

Hi Barbara,
You sound wicked hawt, n'if there's one thing I love it's a hawt RVing
MILF who tools around in a Jayco and knows how to party.   Will you be
RVing through New England?
leinbacker - 26 Apr 2006 04:22 GMT
> > New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
> > Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I feel better already.

The best place to install the car seat is to tie it to the ladder on
the back.  Hopefully with the kid strapped in.  They'll love the thrill
and you won't have to listen the the screaming.
Plaidmoon - 26 Apr 2006 06:02 GMT
> > New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
> > Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I feel better already.

OK, now we need to somebody to send MoParMaN the address of Panks
parents. Any volunteers?

Plaidmoon
MoParMaN - 26 Apr 2006 11:08 GMT
>> > New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
>> > Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
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>
> Plaidmoon

Panks was hatched, his parents flew off when they put him on one of his anti
crazy meds.

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RichA - 26 Apr 2006 04:35 GMT
>New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
>Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Many thanks,
>Barbara Silver
Hi,
You would put the car seats in the same way you would in your car.
Hopefully you will have seats with seat belts that face forward.
Usually in the dinette.  You should put them in the seat furthest
forward.   You should also keep EVERYTHING that is loose or can come
loose stored away when traveling.  During a panic or emergency stop or
an accident anything that is loose will become a flying missile.
Including tissue and Pampers boxes, baby bottles, cook top covers etc.

Traveling with kids that age shouldn't be a problem.  Hauling them
around wherever you go is the biggest problem.  DO NOT put anything like
Pampers or any other solids that will not dissolve quickly into the
toilet.

Hope this helps.  Take care and Happy Campin...
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Janet Wilder - 26 Apr 2006 17:30 GMT
> Hi,
>  You would put the car seats in the same way you would in your car.
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> an accident anything that is loose will become a flying missile.
> Including tissue and Pampers boxes, baby bottles, cook top covers etc.

I'd like to also add:  people who think it's a good idea to unfasten
their seatbelts and walk around a vehicle moving at 60 mph will also
become flying missles in a panic stop.

>  Traveling with kids that age shouldn't be a problem.  Hauling them
> around wherever you go is the biggest problem.  DO NOT put anything like
> Pampers or any other solids that will not dissolve quickly into the
> toilet.
>
> Hope this helps.  Take care and Happy Campin...

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Bob V - 26 Apr 2006 05:21 GMT
: New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
: Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
: Especially, information and advice about safely installing their car
: seats.

I'm not familiar with the rig you bought, but isn't this something you
should have thought, and asked, about before buying your RV?   In my Class A
Allegro other than the driver and passenger seats, the only other seat
approved for passengers and seat belt equipped is the side facing sofa.
Dinette seats are not recommended for use while moving, but I suppose you
could make some modifications.
Frank Tabor - 26 Apr 2006 22:44 GMT
>: New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
>: Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Dinette seats are not recommended for use while moving, but I suppose you
>could make some modifications.

Dinette seats, that have seat belts, are approved for use while moving.
Why else put seat belts in them?
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JerryD(upstateNY) - 27 Apr 2006 01:16 GMT
>>Dinette seats, that have seat belts, are approved for use while moving.
Why else put seat belts in them ?<<

Many dinette seats swivel so if you turn the seats toward the back and then
strap the kids in, they would be much safer in a collision.

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Bob V - 27 Apr 2006 03:25 GMT
: >: New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
: >: Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
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: Dinette seats, that have seat belts, are approved for use while moving.
: Why else put seat belts in them?

I didn't say it wasn't legal, I said it wasn't recommended.  For
clarification, I'm talking about cushioned booth type dinettes that make
into beds.  Having two-point seat belts while sitting on loose cushions
isn't my idea of safety.  Heck, I put rear seat belts in my street rod just
to be legal for some slow in-town cruises and parades, but there's no way I
would allow anyone to ride back there on the highway, even though it would
be perfectly legal.

When we started looking at motor homes, I even had a salesman ask if we
would be transporting our grand kids.  When I asked him why, he told me if
the answer was yes, then he was going to recommend we look at 5th wheels
instead.  Big time dollar difference to him since he didn't sell towing
vehicles.
Frank Tabor - 27 Apr 2006 13:28 GMT
>: >: New to this group.  New to rv-ing.  We just bought a 2002 Jayco
>: >: Greyhawk.  We are very excited.  We have to young children (ages 1 and
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>instead.  Big time dollar difference to him since he didn't sell towing
>vehicles.

If the seat belt is anchored according to Fed specs, which it has to be
to meet standards, then the seat is perfectly acceptable for child
seats.  The seat belt is what matters, and it meets the same standards
as any other seat belt.

Know how to tell a salesman is lying?  Look for the moving lips.
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Chris Cowles - 28 Apr 2006 02:22 GMT
> If the seat belt is anchored according to Fed specs, which it has to be
> to meet standards, then the seat is perfectly acceptable for child
> seats.  The seat belt is what matters, and it meets the same standards
> as any other seat belt.

I'd say you've been out of the child seat business for a long time.
Jim Redelfs - 28 Apr 2006 03:20 GMT
> > If the seat belt is anchored according to Fed specs, which it has to be
> > to meet standards, then the seat is perfectly acceptable for child
> > seats.  The seat belt is what matters, and it meets the same standards
> > as any other seat belt.

> I'd say you've been out of the child seat business for a long time.

So have I.  So what?  I believe his statement is accurate.  Am I (we) missing
something?

L.A.T.C.H. (Lower Anchors and Tethers for CHildren) isn't necessary.  It MAY
be somewhat superior to common seatbelts but certainly isn't necessary to
achieve adequate anchorage of a child restraint.

JR
Erik - 03 May 2006 08:54 GMT
<<< We are looking for any feedback about traveling with kids this age.

We've traveled several thousand miles with our two kids, ages 1 and 3
now also..  LOTS OF FUN! You're going to have a great time!  I don't
feel 100% confident in putting their car seats in the swivel chairs, or
on the couch facing sideways, but we do strap them in there.  I don't
put them in the booth seats, it seems more risky.  Just be sure to
REALLY cinch the car seat straps tightly- the seat cushions are very
thick and should be compressed as mush as possible when installing the
car seat.  I think the safest place for a car seat in my non air-bag
motorhome is the front passenger seat.  I get a lot of double-takes
when people see my 2 year-old co-pilot. Plus, he loves sitting up
front!  I recommend every parent participate in some kind of free car
seat "safety fair" offered in your local area.  I thought it would be a
waste of my time, but my wife made me go.  I found out that I didn't
have a clue as to how to properly install a car seat. We traveled for 2
weeks with our 7 day old baby strapped in the swivel chair right behind
her mom.  It worked out great. At least the kids are belted in while we
are "under way".  When I was a week old, my parents took me on a 6 week
car tour of the US.  They just put me inside my basket sitting loose on
the back seat.

Good advice on not stowing heavy objects in the overhead cabinets, even
the cabinets over the dinette.  Things could fall out of them while
you're parked when you open them while someone is sitting in the
dinette.

We installed a nice baby gate that blocks the cockpit area from the
cabin.  It has a gate that we can open and pass through easily.  The
gate REALLY helps.  When "camped", we have another baby gate corrall
that we keep the little one in while outside. It unfolds to about 4
times the size of her playpen.  We store it in a large pod on the roof.

Childproof your plug outlets of course. And turn down your hot water
heater. I had a circuit panel in the cabin at "kid level" that I ended
up screwing shut because I couldn't keep my boy away from it.  Also,
it's a MUCH more serious offense to drop toys, etc. down the RV toilet
and sink then it is at home. I've got a strap accross the toilet lid.

Our motorhome has a couple of steps you have to go down to get to the
outside door. We fill that stairwell area with pillows while we're
parked.  You wouldn't want your 8 month old kid to come tumblimg all of
the way to the ground when you come back inside from dumping the trash.
Don't ask me how I know :)

We are SO careful with the firepit, many times skipping the fire
because of the hassle.  Just last week, my 3 year old was fidgeting and
fell out backwards from his cheap folding camping chair.  The back of
his head made a direct hit to the steel rolled edge of the fire ring
(while a small fire was burning!). He survived with a terrible
"goose-egg" bump.  It could have been a LOT worse. Luckily, we had a
well stocked first-aid kit and ice-packs. We also had our doctor's
telephone number with us and were able to reach the 24 hour nurse. We
were also lucky that we had cell phone service.  When I get to a new
park or campground I note the location of the pay telephone (if there
is one) and the manager's house/host's rv space in case of emergency.
Also, be on the lookout for possibly mean dogs that may be staying in
your neighboring campsite.

I bought some glowing LED arm/leg bands that can also be clipped to a
belt loop.  I put two of them on my 3 year old so I can keep track of
him better at night. I can see him glowing from quite a distance.  My
biggest fear is of one of my kids wandering off in the dark and getting
lost.

If you don't already have one, get a good all-terrain stroller that
will go on the trails and the beach. We also have a back-pack for the
younger one. We also like to take our bikes and folding kid trailer.

We use a "Diaper Genie" that we store in the shower.  It does a great
job of sealing the odors until you can dump the dirty diapers.

Bring an extra Binkie (pacifier) or two (or three!).

The hardest part about traveling with the kids is them being "off of
their schedule".  We try to establish some basic routines because the
kids do better when they know what to expect.  But, they are amazingly
resilient. Our kids have their own toybox in the motorhome with their
"motorhome only" toys in it.   I'll stop once in a while at a store and
buy my boy a new car, truck, or train.  That usually keeps him happy
for quite a few miles of driving.

Sorry this is so long! I hope you can glean something from it.

Have fun!

Erik
1986 P30 Itasca Windcruiser 34'
Marymargm - 03 May 2006 09:08 GMT
> <<< We are looking for any feedback about traveling with kids this age.
>
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> Erik
> 1986 P30 Itasca Windcruiser 34'

Erik, You sound like a neat Dad! Next thing you know they'll be wanting
to drive the MH.

BTDT, we take our teenage Grandson along now.

Mary
Jim Redelfs - 03 May 2006 12:06 GMT
>> We are looking for any feedback about
>> traveling with kids this age.

> We've traveled several thousand miles with our two kids,
> ages 1 and 3 now also..  LOTS OF FUN!
> [much snippage]

That is an EXCELLENT, well-written article!  You should re-write it, add
another 500-750 words and submit it to Trailer Life magazine.  (no joke)
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JR

babs.silver@gmail.com - 18 May 2006 16:34 GMT
Thank you for your fabulous advice.  I keep referring to this post as I
get ready for our trip.  I really appreciate all of the great ideas!!

Sincerely,
Barbara
 
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