Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
of battery do I purchase, can I put in a regular car battery or a
marine battery and will this give me power for lights and fridge if I
camp at a spot where there is no electricity? Thanks.
Laurie
William Boyd - 13 May 2006 23:50 GMT
> Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
> there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
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> Laurie
Go here and obtain a lot of good information. But to answer
your questions there are deep cycle batteries for RV rigs
and there are deep cycle batteries for Marine and RVs and
then there are starting batteries. All just a little
different. The size has some to do with it also.
I might note here that the converter/charger in your rig
might not have what is called a three stage smart charger in
it, it also is not noted to be much of a charger at all just
maintain the battery while you are plugged in to shore power.
http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/

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Advocate - 14 May 2006 01:08 GMT
> Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
> there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
> of battery do I purchase, can I put in a regular car battery or a
> marine battery and will this give me power for lights and fridge if I
> camp at a spot where there is no electricity? Thanks.
No Laurie, it doesn't take a car battery. Car batteries are designed to be
continually charged as the vehicle runs. You want a deep cycle battery that
will take frequent discharge/charge cycles. If you discharge a car battery
only a few times you will most likely damage it.
Locally GanderMountain sells Trojan deep cycle batteries that are considered
a pretty good battery.
By the way, most refrigerators today do not run on 12 volts. Generally they
either run on either house current which is 110 volts or propane. When I
owned a Starcraft popup tent camper, my 12v battery would last all weekend
running a few lights.
Janet Wilder - 14 May 2006 16:31 GMT
> By the way, most refrigerators today do not run on 12 volts. Generally they
> either run on either house current which is 110 volts or propane. When I
> owned a Starcraft popup tent camper, my 12v battery would last all weekend
> running a few lights.
Even if the fridge is running on propane or shore power, it's circuit
boards need 12V. The lights will need 12V. The furnace and water heater
also need 12V to operate the circuits. You need a deep cycle marine
battery. for that trailer 1 12V battery is fine. You can get a marine
battery at WalMart. You don't need anything fancy and don't let the
local "experts" confuse you with techno-babble.
Have fun in your new trailer

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Advocate - 14 May 2006 16:58 GMT
>> By the way, most refrigerators today do not run on 12 volts. Generally
>> they either run on either house current which is 110 volts or propane.
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> battery at WalMart. You don't need anything fancy and don't let the local
> "experts" confuse you with techno-babble.
That's why I recommended the Trojan line of batteries. It's a decent deep
cycle battery and not priced terribly high.
I didn't know my water heater needed 12 volts to operate...are you sure it
does? I left my water heaters pilot on last summer when it was parked for
two weeks accidentally...and I always disconnect the battery in between
uses. In hindsight, I may have left the battery connected that time as well,
I suppose if I forgot to turn off the one, I could have over looked the
other, but I don't believe I did.
JerryD(upstateNY) - 14 May 2006 20:34 GMT
>>I didn't know my water heater needed 12 volts to operate...are you sure it
>>does ? I left my water heaters pilot on last summer when it was parked for
>>two weeks accidentally<<
A water heater with a pilot light doesn't need electric, but a water heater
with electronic ignition would need some kind of electric to work.

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William Boyd - 14 May 2006 20:37 GMT
>>>By the way, most refrigerators today do not run on 12 volts. Generally
>>>they either run on either house current which is 110 volts or propane.
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> I suppose if I forgot to turn off the one, I could have over looked the
> other, but I don't believe I did.
Not all water heaters require 12vdc, some that have the
pilot manual light do not.
RVs come from the factory with out batteries, here our local
RV dealer adds the battery. Most trailers use a group 24
deep cycle, you can request a group 27, which has a little
more amp hour (AH) rating, but is a little bigger. A pure
deep cycle for RV is the best. It will have more AH than the
one for marine use, which will have more cranking amps.
Most batteries are dual RV and Marine deep cycle. That is
the ones that WalMart carries.
http://www.trojan-battery.com/Products/RecreationalVehicle.aspx
Here is where you can find batteries made for RVs and also
those made for start/deep cycle, or dual use. you will
notice those with dual use will have less AH rating but
higher starting amps. RVs need the most AH.

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Chris Cowles - 14 May 2006 22:09 GMT
> ... Most trailers use a group 24 deep cycle, you can request a group 27,
> which has a little more amp hour (AH) rating, but is a little bigger. A
> pure deep cycle for RV is the best. It will have more AH than the one for
> marine use, which will have more cranking amps.
If the popup in question has an electric lift (I doubt it) the marine
battery may be appropriate.

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William Boyd - 15 May 2006 05:09 GMT
>>... Most trailers use a group 24 deep cycle, you can request a group 27,
>>which has a little more amp hour (AH) rating, but is a little bigger. A
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> If the popup in question has an electric lift (I doubt it) the marine
> battery may be appropriate.
That is a possibility, but usually those lifts can be
handled by the big amp hour battery. Might warrant
consulting the owners manual or checking with a dealer.

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JerryD(upstateNY) - 14 May 2006 20:28 GMT
>>You can get a marine battery at WalMart. You don't need anything fancy and don't let the local "experts" confuse you with techno-babble.<<
They have 2 types of marine batteries at Wal-Mart.
He wants the Deep Cycle battery.

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Tom J - 14 May 2006 03:16 GMT
> Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer
> and
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> Laurie
1st thing to do is check with the person/company you bought it from
and ask why there is no battery. There has to be a reason, like
something burned out or worse.
Why did you buy it without making sure all the parts were there and
working?
RVs use deep cycle batteries. Marine batteries are not true deep cycle
batteries.
Tom J
RichA - 14 May 2006 04:10 GMT
>Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
>there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
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>Laurie
Hi,
Was the battery left out for a reason? You should ask the previous
owner if there is a problem using the battery. Like is the converter
charger broken or not working? A problem with the wiring? If you
bought off of a dealer ask the same question along with why a battery
wasn't included in the deal. It may be that the previous owner only
used the RV while in campgrounds so he didn't need a battery or took it
out while the RV wasn't being used and forgot to put it back.
First, don't use a car battery. They are not designed for the type of
continuous loads seen in RV's. The number and size of the batteries
you use for RV'ing depend upon what type of RV'ing you are planning on
doing. If you are going to be spending most of your time in campgrounds
with electrical hookups then a Marine type battery will serve you well.
While not a true deep discharge battery for that type of camping it
would not be used much anyway and would last a long time.
If you plan on camping with no hookups some of the time then the
batteries become much more important. In that case you might want to
consider getting one or two true deep cycle 12V batteries or two 6V golf
cart batteries, (they are deep cycle) and wiring them in series. At the
least for that type of camping two Marine 12V type batteries.
Your fridge probably runs off of 120V and propane. There are some 3
way refrigerators that run on 12V, 120V and propane but they aren't that
common. The fridge however even while running on propane may need 12V
for the circuit board found on newer RV refrigerators so a battery or
working converter is required just for it to work. The bigger the
battery (amp wise) and the more batteries you have the longer you can go
without having to charge them.
What is a converter? Glad you asked :) A converter takes 120V AC
shore power and converts it to 12V DC power to run the DC things in your
RV when plugged in at a campground (shore power). Most converters also
have a built in charger used to charge your batteries.
Hope this helps. Take care and Happy Campin...

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Burt & Marge Humphrey - 14 May 2006 04:49 GMT
> Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
> there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
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> Laurie
Laurie here is 2 articles on batteries that will help you decide what type
of battery you need and why.
http://bart.ccis.com/home/mnemeth/12volt/12volt.htm
part two:
http://bart.ccis.com/home/mnemeth/12volt/12volta.htm
good luck
Burt
Steve B - 14 May 2006 04:58 GMT
> Hi everyone, we just purchased a 2002 Trail lite Bantam 17 footer and
> there was no battery in the case next to the propane tanks. What kind
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> Laurie
If you have the space, put two 6v. batteries in there. They won't cost much
more than a good 12v., and they will last lots longer for boondocking than
one or even two 12v. batteries.
Be sure to hook them up right.
Steve
JerryD(upstateNY) - 14 May 2006 20:29 GMT
>>You can get a marine battery at WalMart. You don't need anything fancy and
>>don't let the local "experts" confuse you with techno-babble.<<
They have 2 types of marine batteries at Wal-Mart.
He wants the Deep Cycle battery.

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