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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / June 2006Ram 2500 or 3500?
Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the 3500, and have it pull about anything? Going with the Cummins Diesel. Steve > Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Are you talking about Travel Trailer or 5th Wheel?. In either case a 3/4 HD should be fine. We have pulled a 31' Fifth Wheel with a 2500HD 8100 Chevy for three years with good towing results. Just upgraded to a 2500HD Duramax 6600 but no towing yet. RonB I second the 2500HD w/ 8.1L. Pulls like a Clydesdale w/ the Allison tranny and 4.10. I tow a 32' 5'er w/out any problems at all. Have to love the Allison's low reverse for pushing it backwards uphill into my driveway as well! >> Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > RonB I think the Allison transmission is one of the best safety features available on GM trucks. We had the first truck (8100) in the mountains several times and it really took care of us. The braking characteristics are great. I agree the 8.1L pulls like a Clydesdale and we had the higher geared rear end (3:73). Unfortunately, we had one of the earlier 8.1s and the piston slap + erratic oil consumption left us thinking it wasn't going to be a long term vehicle. With all of the GM service bulletins installed we did straighten out the non-towing oil consumptioin (1,200 to 1,800 mpq on average). However the towing consumption was a litttle un-nerving. On several occasions we experienced back-to-back consumption on the order of 1,200/400/1,400 mpq. On one occasion it dropped to 300 mpq. Apparently they have corrected the oil problems on the 2003 and after machines. RonB >I second the 2500HD w/ 8.1L. Pulls like a Clydesdale w/ the Allison tranny >and 4.10. I tow a 32' 5'er w/out any problems at all. Have to love the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> RonB > Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, > single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the > 3500, and have it pull about anything? Going with the Cummins Diesel. > > Steve My opinion: Get the 3500 and optional lower gears. It may save you buying another truck if you decide to tow heavier later on. You're not going to save anything significant by getting the 2500. I've never heard anyone complain about having too much truck when towing. >> Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. >> 4wd, single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You're not going to save anything significant by getting the 2500. > I've never heard anyone complain about having too much truck when towing. I can agree with you on the not complaining about having to much truck on the towing, except for the use of more fuel, my complaint is having to much truck between towing. When a 2500 is adequate for towing what you have, it does not make good sense to get a 3500 when you do not need it. Chances are replacement time for the tow vehicle will outnumber the rig you are towing. Upgrade to a larger tow vehicle may be warranted with future expectations of obtaining a larger RV. But the ratio of tow vehicle to towed vehicle would be to my estimation around three to one.  SignatureBILL P. 2004, 2500 SLT Quad Cab, Dodge Ram, SLT, SWB, 2WD, Short Bed 5.9 HO Turbo Diesel, 48RE Auto Trans, Anti-Spin 3.73 Dif.Rhino Liner, Husky 16K,Slider. Voyager Controller 2005, 27RL Wildcat, DT/PC Wi-Fi. two 6volt AGM Trojan Batteries, 1500watt Vector Inverter Dual EU2000i Hondas Just Me and Dog >>> Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. >>> 4wd, single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >with future expectations of obtaining a larger RV. But the ratio of tow >vehicle to towed vehicle would be to my estimation around three to one. Yeahbutt . . . he's talking about the difference between a 2500 or a 3500 SRW. Same drive train through and through. How much difference can there be in fuel mileage between two trucks that are spec'ed so close together? Greg > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >Greg > I really dont have the technical answer except more tires on the ground and more wheels to turn, cost more fuel. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I really dont have the technical answer except more tires on the > ground and more wheels to turn, cost more fuel. Do you have any idea what SRW means when discussing pickups? Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com >>Do you have any idea what SRW means when discussing pickups?<< For some reason 3500 = dual rear wheels to Mr. Boyd. Hey Bill...........are you listening ????????? EVERYONE (except you) is talking about a 3500 with SINGLE rear wheels. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Oh yes I do but the single rear wheel aka SRW has very little additional weight capacity rating. Tires and wheels are a size and weight larger. Has the same suspension as the 2500. Front brakes and suspension part numbers are the same. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG > Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, > single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the > 3500, and have it pull about anything? Going with the Cummins Diesel. > > Steve I've got the Dodge 3500 Dually. I can yank my 36 foot 5th wheeler anywhere I want and it never moans. For the price difference I'll always get the bigger truck. Course, I live in Texas and 2500's are considered toy trucks. SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- >> Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, >> single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > For the price difference I'll always get the bigger truck. Course, I live in > Texas and 2500's are considered toy trucks. Got to agree on Country Cadillacs. I don't want another car. > Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, > single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the > 3500, and have it pull about anything? Going with the Cummins Diesel. > > Steve A quick rule of thumb: if 25% of the 5er's GVWR would exceed the "payload" limit of the truck it's time to look for a bigger truck! <G> The limiting factor for a SRW is the tires: can THEY support the weight? True, the SRW 3500 is rated 1100 lbs more GVWR >but< it doesn't come with that much more "payload" capability. OTOH, it's too bad that you are unwilling to go with the DRW since the 4600# "payload" capability can accept the pin weight of a relatively heavy trailer. [I saw one this afternoon that was pulling a flatbed gooseneck with 13 "round" bales of hay on it.] > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Yep! I was in the hay business for quite a while following me selling all of my cattle. And I had a DRW stake bed with a goose neck pulled a trailer that had 12 round bales on it , had the right truck for the right job. When I finished, I would park the hay hauling rig and get in my 1500 GMC and haul my a.s down to the coffee shop and eat supper, again had the right truck for the right job. Now why in hell would I want to go to town in a big a.s DW truck for. I just do not weigh that muck, DOG dont either. :-( I found the 5er that would fit in my barn after getting all the hay out, then bought a truck that was well capable of pulling what I had selected. Mistakes, yes if I had it to do over again I believe I would have bought the 4X4 :-\ , bigger truck, not hardly, I've got the right truck for the right job. I can even run it through the auto spa, cont take a DRW in one. =-O SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > truck for the right job. I can even run it through the auto spa, cont > take a DRW in one. =-O I love my dualie as does everybody else around. It gets about 20mpg when I can keep my foot out of it. It runs like a hotrod when I want it to. It has plenty of stretch room. It's got everything I could concievably want in a man's truck. I may have to park a few spaces out but what the heck. My wife has a F150 crewcab short bed. It is nice but I like the way my diesel runs. Just returned from three dealers in Utah. Pretty much established that the towing capacities weren't increased much between the 2500 and 3500 because of the added weight of the springs, wheels, and heavier axle. So, we settled on the 2500. We are leaving tomorrow PM from Las Vegas to deliver the Newmar, and will be buying shortly after return. Thanks for all the help. I do have a new question re: short vs. long bed that will be asked to start another thread. Thanks again, all. Steve > Just returned from three dealers in Utah. Pretty much established that > the towing capacities weren't increased much between the 2500 and 3500 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve With a long-bed you can use an air-suspension hitch such as the EasyRider! <G> Long-beds usually command better resale, too. > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page?index=A&pageNext=TRUE&dealerId=7&page Num=530 Dont matter about the bed size. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG >Just returned from three dealers in Utah. Pretty much established that the >towing capacities weren't increased much between the 2500 and 3500 because [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Steve The 3500 has a higher GVWR. More pin weight. More payload. That 14000 lb fiver may have a pin weight that exceeds the 2500. SignatureFrank Tabor > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >lb fiver may have a pin weight that exceeds the 2500. > I didn't think any one mentioned the weight of the 5er they were going to tow. And yes if it is over 13,450 he would need a heavier tow vehicle than a Ram 2500. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG > Which would you buy to pull a 28' 5er? Not a lot more for a 3500. 4wd, > single rear wheels. Would a 2500 be marginal, adequate, or just get the > 3500, and have it pull about anything? Going with the Cummins Diesel. > > Steve I'm pulling a 31' Colorado 5th wheel rig, just over 12,000# with a 2002 Ram 2500, Cummins, 6 speed stick. Works good! Cummins should be good for as long as you want to keep it. Good Choice. Ed MacNeil, Ancient Aviator North Hampton, New Hamster |
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