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We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual Nigerian scammers!) but to date no buyers. We've gone from thinking "OK, I guess we should sell" to "selling is the Right Thing To Do" and wish to spend ad dollars wisely. So, I'm soliciting feedback (preferably from those with recent good/bad experience)about classified on-line listing services. Let fly. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill BTW you can write me at will@epix.net for the honest details if you're thinking of buying a class B. >>>So, I'm soliciting feedback (preferably from those with recent good/bad experience) about classified on-line listing services. Let fly.<<< Will, Put it in ebay with a reserve price and if it doesn't get a high enough bid, you don't have to sell it. I am not sure of the cost but usually you pay "X" dollars up front and then pay another fee if the item sells. I have bought/sold many items on ebay but they were a lot cheaper than your RV. > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Will Sill I'd suggest www.rvonline.com as a good place to start but the poster has me blocked. We put an ad on www.rvtraderonline.com for our Award and got zero responses. The rvonline site got several and one bought the trailer. Hugh >> We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B >> motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> Will Sill I had good results using http://www.rvclassified.com/ when I sold our 5th wheel. Over 400 *hits* (including a couple of scammers) within 3 weeks. Three serious buyers and it sold in the 3 week timeframe. Eisboch > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > BTW you can write me at will@epix.net for the honest details if you're > thinking of buying a class B. www.craigslist.org Cost you about the amount of time posting this question did. sell it or not, no harm done. : We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B : motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : good/bad experience)about classified on-line listing services. Let : fly. Nothing better than your local newspaper/s. eBay is a waste of time and money unless you have something very unique, very sought after or you just want to unload at a rock bottom price. I tried the following site when I was looking for my RV, but actually found mine in the newspaper. http://www.rvtraderonline.com/adsearch.html > Nothing better than your local newspaper/s. eBay is a waste of time > and money unless you have something very unique, very sought after or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > found mine in the newspaper. > http://www.rvtraderonline.com/adsearch.html works for me, last 3 cars, I ran on Ebay, ran on swapshop radio show, ran on craigslist ( all I got there were the Nigerian Scammers). a simple $5.00 one week ad in your local newspaper, or maybe in the weekly freebie listings paper will work every time Not that it matters but you cannot get a simple $5.00 one week ad in our local newspaper. TS >> Nothing better than your local newspaper/s. eBay is a waste of time >> and money unless you have something very unique, very sought after or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a simple $5.00 one week ad in your local newspaper, or maybe in the weekly > freebie listings paper will work every time > Not that it matters but you cannot get a simple $5.00 one week ad in our > local newspaper. > TS Nor any other major publication. >>> Nothing better than your local newspaper/s. eBay is a waste of time >>> and money unless you have something very unique, very sought after or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> a simple $5.00 one week ad in your local newspaper, or maybe in the >> weekly freebie listings paper will work every time >Nor any other major publication. Nor in some minor ones too, the day of the $5 ad is long gone in most places if not all of them ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com > Not that it matters but you cannot get a simple $5.00 one week ad in > our local newspaper. > TS Sorry,,,, thats what it is here in De Queen, AR for a week in the M-F paper, for about a 3 line ad every time I run an ad in the paper, the item sells that week. <snip> > So, I'm soliciting feedback (preferably from those with recent > good/bad experience)about classified on-line listing services. Let > fly. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Will, You have good suggestions from Hugh and Jerry. But I would plaster that sucker everywhere I could and especially on websites that are free. Craig's List (www.craigslist.com) is becoming like e-bay except it gets much more local and is still free. You probably will never sell it to some person on the left coast, so getting down to sites that are much more specific to folks that will be willing to travel to you for a look is important. Craig's just changed their format somewhat and now you can search by State and then some large and small metro areas. Start at this location: http://geo.craigslist.org/iso/us/pa That gets you to your State. Then when you click on any city, like Pittsburgh, you can look at ads under cars and trucks for sale for examples of other ads. Do a search for "motorhome" and do one for "van." You probably will want to include those two keywords in your ad(s) so that when people search they see your ad. On the left side of any main page you will find info on how to list an ad. I would shotgun that sucker onto a bunch of areas and States around you like Ohio, NY, Maryland etc. If you have good digital pics be sure to put them in the ad. Hope it helps. Jan > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > good/bad experience)about classified on-line listing services. Let > fly. I found my Class B through a listing in the Trading Times. I was specifically looking for a Class B when I found it.  SignatureJon JPinOH I sold my 1995 Chevy Coachmen Class B on ebay without a reserve for $13,700. I was very happy with the price. The people drove 200 miles the next day from the Ocala Area with a cashier's check to pick it up. The buyers are very happy with it - we email weekly and they tell us about their travels. The fee on ebay is very simple. $40 to put up the sale - $5 more if you want a reserve price. If you sell it- you pay a total of $80 to ebay including the charges above. The total cost to the seller is never above the total of $80. there are no charges to the buyer. You can put as many pictures as you want in the ad for free - if you have a place to put them on the net. If you do not - ebay lets you put as many pictures as you want for 15 cents each - a bargain. You can add a ton of text explaining all the details. More than anything else - on ebay you are selling yourself rather than the product. If you have an excellent rating - and explain how you used the camper and why you want to sell it - you build a trust up between yourself and a customer. You have to be nice - for some folks that is impossible. You can run the auction for 1 day up to 10 days. Another thing - I notice that many times - a sale on ebay does not meet a reserve or the buyer gets cold feet. Just remember - many other buyers are out there that see it and are interested - and would like to come by and kick the tires before they deal. I bought a Miata - my Class B - my Ranger 4 x 4 - and two scooters "off ebay." What that means is that I saw it on ebay - and then bought it later privately - after I check it out thoroughly - and it did meet its reserve on ebay. I am have made 200 ebay deals and have not had a bad deal yet. Many of the customers become friends and we keep in touch in case we have something else to buy or sell. Quite frankly - I think it is a lot of exposure for $80. Remember - you are only trying to find one buyer - and that buyer is out there - you just have to let her know you have what they want. > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Will Sill Give it to the Dallas Can Academy and write it off your taxes. http://www.dallascan.org/index.asp SignatureMoParMaN---Remove Clothes To Reply! --SCUD Coordinates 32.61204 North: 96.92993 West-- As I recall, you have a home-made rv that appeared to me to be way over priced. What you are offering is only going to be of interest to a very limited number of people so until that right one comes along, I think you'll have it for quite some time. This is not an insult (!) just the way I see it. > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome I see where Puppy <nospam@nospam.net> contributed: >As I recall, you have a home-made rv that appeared to me to be way over >priced. What you are offering is only going to be of interest to a very >limited number of people so until that right one comes along, I think >you'll have it for quite some time. This is not an insult (!) just the >way I see it. You might try actually looking at the facts. http://www.rvclassified.com/rvclassified_cfmfiles/search/details.cfm?id=64113 On 2nd thought, never mind. You probably can't afford it. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > I see where Puppy <nospam@nospam.net> contributed: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Will Sill The facts are against you Will. You created a good vehicle for your specific use. It doesn't begin to compare to professionally built Class B units. It is what it looks like, a home built motorhome. Like the school bus conversions it won't have the same value as "real" motorhomes. Even at your reduced price, one can buy good, low mileage, genuine Class B models from several reputable makers. Hugh > The facts are against you Will. You created a good vehicle for your > specific use. It doesn't begin to compare to professionally built [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Even at your reduced price, one can buy good, low mileage, genuine > Class B models from several reputable makers. I don't know anything about Class B pricing, but my curiousity got to me, and I did some searching. Basline: Will's RV: 1999 WillSill GMC 5.7l. 86,000 miles. Larger battery system. More private looking bathroom than the others. $16,000. http://www.rvclassified.com/rvclassified_cfmfiles/search/details.cfm?id=61381 1997 19' Coachmen GMC 5.7l. 73,000 miles. $18,000. http://www.rvusa.com/rvinventory_item.asp?id=298250 1996 Thor Airstream 190 Ford 460. 168074 miles. Big-looking attic above cab extends past windshield. Generator, awning, etc. $15,000. http://www.rvusa.com/rvinventory_item.asp?id=244031 2000 Coachmen Starflyte VT 18 GMC 5.7l. 52,000 miles. $20,000. Hmm... Maybe not so bad. Not priced for quick sale, but might sell for $16k. > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Feel free to buy it Will might give you a commission. ;-) SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG Selling a motorhome is a lot like elk hunting. You don't have to know a lot. You don't have to do a lot. All you need is one stupid elk walking along, doh tee doh ......... Blooey! Time to go home. Steve Sorry you had to get nasty, but Huge is right. In the circles we travel in, no one would dare show up driving your home-made contraption. It would be an embarrassment. My advice - look for a young couple looking for a party van and take $5,000 for it and be happy. > I see where Puppy <nospam@nospam.net> contributed: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > Sorry you had to get nasty, but Huge is right. In the circles we travel > in, no one would dare show up driving your home-made contraption. It > would be an embarrassment. My advice - look for a young couple looking > for a party van and take $5,000 for it and be happy. I didn't mean to imply that and you are dead wrong. Although I haven't seen Will's class B close up, I have seen many pictures of it, some recent and some he emailed me when we still "spoke". Not a professional product for sure but very well thought out and executed, for his specific need. His unit could be purchased by someone with similar needs and would bring the person good value .If he can get near his asking price, good. I just won't compare it to a professional product. One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You could park most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't up, camp at will with no worry of being bothered by the local fuzz. Hugh > One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You could park > most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't up, camp at will > with no worry of being bothered by the local fuzz. > Hugh Most people who would be motivated by the prospects of "stealth camping" and avoiding the police would balk at the price of a rig to do it in at 1/3 the price Will is asking. >>One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You could park >>most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't up, camp at will [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > avoiding the police would balk at the price of a rig to do it in at 1/3 the > price Will is asking. You don't know much then do you? Traveling cross country on the cheap saves a bunch for the the best part of traveling, the stops in between the traveling. Campgrounds cost as much in some cases as staying in a motel. Will and his wife did a lot of traveling and enjoyed the stops and places along the way. Neither of them were interested incampground facilities, meaning club houses, pools, tennis courts, ball diamonds, goof courses or any of the other things rv'rs lust for. Someone with similar needs would love to have Will's rig. Go price the pop top, add that cost to the wholesale price of the basic van. You might be surprised. I doubt anyone could duplicate his rig for the same money. That isn't why I believe it's overpriced, I just think the market will support his asking price. To tell the truth, it makes me sad that Will and his wife are choosing to end their travels with the van. Hugh >>>One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You could >>>park most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't up, camp at [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > end their travels with the van. > Hugh Well, there you would be wrong. I traveled on the cheap, as a youth, all over North America, for many months, more than 11,000 miles, 4 jobs, and no campgrounds or motels, in an $800 one ton converted cargo van. Like I originally said, the vast majority of people who are into "stealth camping", parking and sleeping illegally, aren't going to plop $16,000 dollars down to do it... What Will did with his homemade camper van and what any other person might want to do with it, aren't really what my comments in reply to your "stealth camping" "police avoiding" activities was about. Most people who regularly practice "police avoiding" type "stealth camping" do it out of financial necessity, not because they enjoy regularly violating ordinances and laws. >>>>One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You could >>>>park most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't up, camp at [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > of people who are into "stealth camping", parking and sleeping illegally, > aren't going to plop $16,000 dollars down to do it... Yo. I plopped down $19K to go flatspotting, and if Will's van has above average ground clearance and minimum overhang, it sounds like it'd be great for that. Hell, I think my Nerdafari's great for that, and I don't have anything built-in. Signaturebill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work. I see where bill horne <redydog@rye.net> contributed in response to some nitwit's harangue about "stealth camping": >Yo. I plopped down $19K to go flatspotting, and if Will's van has >above average ground clearance and minimum overhang, it sounds like >it'd be great for that. Hell, I think my Nerdafari's great for that, >and I don't have anything built-in. While our B has a lot more conveniences than yer Nerafari and probably handles better, it does not have AWD. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > I see where bill horne <redydog@rye.net> contributed in response to > some nitwit's harangue about "stealth camping": [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Neither does my Nerdafari. Signaturebill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work. I see where bill horne <redydog@rye.net> contributed in response to some nitwit's harangue about "stealth camping": >>>Yo. I plopped down $19K to go flatspotting, and if Will's van has >>>above average ground clearance and minimum overhang, it sounds like >>>it'd be great for that. Hell, I think my Nerdafari's great for that, >>>and I don't have anything built-in. Will: >> While our B has a lot more conveniences than yer Nerafari and probably >> handles better, it does not have AWD. bh: >Neither does my Nerdafari. Shucks. I thot it did. Our similar one had AWD and performed extremely well in most respects - but handling suct! A lot like steering a Flexible Flyer with a rubber rope. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >>>>> One thing it has going for it big time is the stealth look. You >>>>> could park most anyplace you wanted and, as long as the top isn't [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > it'd be great for that. Hell, I think my Nerdafari's great for that, > and I don't have anything built-in. Actually, believe it or not, old a.s hole Will needs a little slack. I know what he is facing with all the TLC he probably put in building his van. It is hard to see the forest from the trees, or how ever that goes. I have the old 94 GMC 1500 that I painstakingly chose and ordered, along with the tight adherence to maintenance and upkeep I invested. When a part wore out or failed, I would not repair it, but replace with an OE component, not an after market replacement or rebuilt item, but new, never used before. Have you priced an OE exhaust system lately, four times the price of build it while you wait shops. . But they only warrant it for one year, the OE system lasted nine years. When it came time for a radiator cleaning and hose replacement, all of it was replaced, from the water pump, thermostat, heater and radiator hoses. When it came time for drum brakes on the rear and the drums was requiring turning, I didn't do it. I had every thing from the hydraulic hoses, cylinders, shoes, drums, calipers, rotors and front bearings replaced. Why? they do not size drum shoes any more except for large trucks. When you turn the drums and put a standard size set of brake shoes in them they will not completely make contact with the drums until worn down to fit the oversize drums. So the 94 GMC to me is worth much more than the average bear, that is why I can't sell it. That is why Will wants so much for his relic too. So I hope you get it sold, Will, you old geezer. And I have noticed you have been a lot more civil to folks lately. Your zipper still holding ok. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG (snip) Will and his wife did a lot of traveling and enjoyed the stops > and places along the way. Neither of them were interested incampground > facilities, meaning club houses, pools, tennis courts, ball diamonds, > goof courses or any of the other things rv'rs lust for. (snip) > Hugh Hugh, "Goof" courses???? Soooo!! This is what it has come to, eh? Sir, as a goofer, er, I mean golfer, I take umbrage at that remark. OM Keep your head down, your left arm straight, your eye on the ball and a slow steady backswing. >> goof courses >"Goof" courses???? Soooo!! This is what it has come to, eh? Sir, as a >goofer, er, I mean golfer, I take umbrage at that remark. You're new around here, aren't you <g>? (Hugh once misspelled "golf" as "goof" and it stuck....) GB in NC > >> goof courses > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > GB in NC GB in NC Oh !!!! I see. Well, in that case, I don't take umbrage. Actually, goof course isn't such a bad description after all. OM >> (Hugh once misspelled "golf" as "goof" and it stuck....) >> >> GB in NC >Oh !!!! I see. Well, in that case, I don't take umbrage. Actually, goof >course isn't such a bad description after all. That's sorta what some of us here thought.... (So you can put your umbrage back.) GB in NC >>>> goof courses >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > goof course isn't such a bad description after all. > OM Even moreso when it's this goof course. http://www.bobhatch.com/otherFunStuff/18thTeeAtClerbrook.htm Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com > Even moreso when it's this goof course. > http://www.bobhatch.com/otherFunStuff/18thTeeAtClerbrook.htm > -- Bob, I've seen plenty of gators on golf courses in Florida. One thing that surprised me was how tall they are when they stand up. And I understand they are very fast for short distances on land. A little story. Two of my friends were playing one day. One guy got out of the cart to hit his ball. When the guy in the cart saw a gator lying in the grass, he go so excited he turned the cart around and sped off to tell others following him. He left his partner standing with a 5 iron in his hand and a gator grinning at him. I'm sure the guy with the 5 iron felt goofy. OM >>>goof courses > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > GB in NC Nope, intentionally spelled it goofer. As in I think it's goofy to whackaball around a lawn with sticks :) Hugh >> Hugh once misspelled "golf" as "goof" and it stuck.... >> >> GB in NC >Nope, intentionally spelled it goofer. As in I think it's goofy to >whackaball around a lawn with sticks :) I couldn't agree more, but I thought it started as a misspelling. On every twice-a-year beach trip (51 so far) my buddies ask me -- just to hear my response -- if I brought my "sticks." I say, "I always bring all the golf equipment I own." GB in NC > >> Hugh once misspelled "golf" as "goof" and it stuck.... > >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > GB in NC My dad calls it cow pasture pool. Sign over urinal at golf course..... "This is the first time today, someone has not corrected my stance or tried to change my grip." Joe >>>Hugh once misspelled "golf" as "goof" and it stuck.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I couldn't agree more, but I thought it started as a misspelling. snipped > GB in NC It started when guys were planning the first Clerbrook get together. I mentioned the park had a goof course and it took off from there :) Hugh > (snip) > Will and his wife did a lot of traveling and enjoyed the stops [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Keep your head down, your left arm straight, your eye on the ball and a > slow steady backswing. While fishing and observing goofers in action, I've seem some who needed umbrellas while chasing the little dimpled ball <g>. One errant goofer put one into my windshield last winter :( Oh wait, that was umbrage wasn't it? Well, okay, take all you want, it's free :) Hugh who digs trenches with golf clubs I see where Puppy <nospam@nospam.net> contributed: >Sorry you had to get nasty, but Huge is right. In the circles we travel >in, no one would dare show up driving your home-made contraption. It >would be an embarrassment. My advice - look for a young couple looking >for a party van and take $5,000 for it and be happy. FTR, there is no record that this anonymous twit ever asked for or received the offered full description. But I appreciate the continued publicity. My ad is gettiing quite a few hits! (BTW, who is "Huge"?) Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > As I recall, you have a home-made rv that appeared to me to be way over > priced. What you are offering is only going to be of interest to a very > limited number of people so until that right one comes along, I think > you'll have it for quite some time. This is not an insult (!) just the way > I see it. I just sold one for $40,000 that people told me was only worth $25,000. Go figger. Steve > We've been casually mentioning our interest in selling our class B > motorhome and received a few inquiries (in addition to the usual [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > BTW you can write me at will@epix.net for the honest details if you're > thinking of buying a class B. We just sold our '96 Newmar Mountain Aire last week after listing it on eBay for quite a while. Total cost - about $200. Final value fee - $140. We got $40 k for it. We had clowns contacting us and telling us "when you want to be reasonable about the price, I'll give you $25k for it." With eBay, you get it out to millions of people. Local papers will get far less than that, and that's if you live in a metropolitan area. You will get tire kickers, and idiots the likes of which you have not seen yet. (I know you've seen your share, but some of these will amaze you further.) Just about the time you think you've seen and heard it all, someone blows your socks off. Then, battabing, a buyer. I would recommend eBay highly. It has its quirks and nuances, but nothing's perfect. What it does is reach a large amount of people. I've been ebaying for about three years plus now, am a PowerSeller, and can tell you zillions of infinite details. But the best guidance is ............. use it .......... it works. Steve I see where "Steve B" <boozoochavez@zydeco.net> contributed: >With eBay, you get it out to millions of people. >But the best guidance is ............. use it .......... it works. Thanx. I have yet to do that but might try it if nothing happens with rvclassified.com. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill |
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