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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2006Old Propane tanks
Hi, I just got a 1988 Viking Popup and it has a propane tank on the front feeding a stove inside and a stove connection outside. I would like to continue using the stove so I was wondering if all I had to do to convert it to the current OPD propane tanks is to replace the tank (about $25) (or I can exchange it at Walmart for around $15) and then replace the connector and regulator. The current connector has a square regulator on it and then uses a short flexible hose to connect to the trailer piping at the front of the trailer. Can I just use a gas grill replacement hose (with regulator) to replace the hose on my trailer? Something like this? http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/gasgrillparts/bbqparts/repair/plumbing/body _plumbing.html Item MCM80012 Thanks! >Hi, >I just got a 1988 Viking Popup and it has a propane tank on the front [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > All you need is the new tank. The new valves accept both the new connectors as well as the old ones. Use the same regulator. I do like the new connectors, though, allows you to change out the tank with out the use of a wrench.  SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG >I do like the new connectors, though, allows you to change out the tank >with out the use of a wrench. Which can mean it is also easier to still one without tools to if it is not locked down. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com > Which can mean it is also easier to still one For brewing what? KH >> Which can mean it is also easier to still one > >For brewing what? > >KH I meant steal not still (typo) ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >www.thesnoman.com > He knew that! There is one other thing about a propane tank. Certification! each tank is required to be certified when they are new and they are required to be re-certified but that is only good for an additional five years. I do not remember how much they charge. I decided to buy a new tank any way. SignatureBILL P. Just Me & DOG > There is one other thing about a propane tank. Certification! each tank >is required to be certified when they are new and they are required to >be re-certified but that is only good for an additional >five years. I do not remember how much they charge. I decided to buy a >new tank any way. Wise idea as it is cheaper to get a new one in long run plus the intial check is good for 12 years as I recall so when I get one I check the date codes on them before I buy them. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >> There is one other thing about a propane tank. Certification! each tank >>is required to be certified when they are new and they are required to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The SnoMan > www.thesnoman.com I had an old tank, with the old valve. Went to a blue rhino dealer super market, for 20$ got a 3 year old tank. Now I refill it at the local propane guy. >I had an old tank, with the old valve. Went to a blue rhino dealer super >market, for 20$ got a 3 year old tank. Now I refill it at the local propane >guy. I thought it was not possible for most "local propane guys" to refill a Blue Rhino tank. Am I wrong? GB in NC >>I had an old tank, with the old valve. Went to a blue rhino dealer super >>market, for 20$ got a 3 year old tank. Now I refill it at the local [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > GB in NC I read that on the side too, but it sounds like if you have a particular blue rhino valve. I've filled it a dozen times at 2 places, never a bump. >I thought it was not possible for most "local propane guys" to refill a >Blue Rhino tank. Am I wrong? It seem that not everone can but my local filler can but one down the road cannot. I think it has to do with filling pressure as the is a relief valve to overcome when charging. I have had a few filled several times at the local place. (they have good pressure because they fill it fast too, less than a minute usually) ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >>I thought it was not possible for most "local propane guys" to refill a >>Blue Rhino tank. Am I wrong? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >The SnoMan >www.thesnoman.com Blue Rhino bottles have a proprietary valve on them that takes a special filler valve with a long reach on it. It has nothing to do with the relief valve. SignatureFrank Tabor >Blue Rhino bottles have a proprietary valve on them that takes a special >filler valve with a long reach on it. It has nothing to do with the >relief valve. Actually it does because the long snout depresses a vavle in there for filling which can easily be overcome with higher fill pressure. I tryied to get two tank filed down the road once when I was getting a 100lb bottle filled (it was cheaper there for 100lb bottle) and they could not do it and said tanks was bad. Took them to my usual place and they filled them right up and they do not have a longer snout on their fitting either put they had a better pumping system. ----------------- The SnoMan www.thesnoman.com >>I had an old tank, with the old valve. Went to a blue rhino dealer super >>market, for 20$ got a 3 year old tank. Now I refill it at the local propane [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >GB in NC Lot of places are getting an adapter to fill Blue Rhino tanks. BTW, I beat Lowes at their own game. They have a sale on where you buy a grill, then buy a brandy new propane bottle, and then they give you free exchange on a filled Blue Rhino bottle. I had a friend that wanted to buy a grill, so we went to Lowes and he bought a grill and a brandy new bottle. When it came time to do the propane exchange, I gave them a beat up old style valve bottle that was probably out of compliance with pressure testing. they griped like hell about it, but their advert only says exchange. It doesn't say how. So I ended up with a brand new bottle, and my friend with a grill and a full, reasonably new bottle. SignatureFrank Tabor >>>I had an old tank, with the old valve. Went to a blue rhino dealer super >>>market, for 20$ got a 3 year old tank. Now I refill it at the local [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I ended up with a brand new bottle, and my friend with a grill and a > full, reasonably new bottle. Apparently from a letter by Blue Rhino: Blue Rhino is not only installing OPD valves, they are installing their OWN proprietary OPD valves, called Tri-Safe II valves. You can identify a TSII valve by the little triangular indentation on the side of the valve. In order to get flow IN to a TS2 valve, a magnetic key must be inserted into the indentation to hold a steel ball out of the way. A guy named Mark Sharp received a letter from Blue Rhino confirming this information. Here's the text of the letter he received: "Blue Rhino is the leader in the industry for providing the safest tanks on the market. Some, but not all of our tanks have a special safety device that prevents the refill by anyone other than a Blue Rhino specialist. They are called TS2 cylinders. The reason we designed them is simple. It's for the safety of our consumers!! We stand behind our product. We know how our cylinders are filled and that the highest level of accuracy and safety checks are performed. When our consumers take our cylinders and have them filled elsewhere, we cannot be liable or guarantee the safety of that cylinder. If your tank is not properly filled, damage to your valve can result, which can prevent it from performing properly. > > Which can mean it is also easier to still one > > For brewing what? Meth, Ken. Propane tank, anhydrous ammonia and pseudo-ephedrine. Of course, if *I* were going to steal a still, I'd go for the copper tubing. <BG> JR >>> Which can mean it is also easier to still one >> For brewing what? > > Meth, Ken. Propane tank, anhydrous ammonia and pseudo-ephedrine. Ah, that's the meth-od.<g> And why on Earth do they use pseudo-ephedrine instead of the real thing?:-) > Of course, if *I* were going to steal a still, I'd go for the copper > tubing. Where do you suppose those guys in the 4077th got their still materials? Is there a black market for *anything* in time of war? Ken > > Meth, Ken. Propane tank, anhydrous ammonia and pseudo-ephedrine. > Ah, that's the meth-od.<g> And why on Earth do they use > pseudo-ephedrine instead of the real thing?:-) Pseudoephedrine is available OTC in cold and allergy medicines. In my state, there's now a law that (now matter how much you're coughing, sneezing, and dripping from the nose) you must record your personal info into a book at the store when you buy anything with pseudoephedrine. > Pseudoephedrine is available OTC in cold and allergy medicines. In my > state, there's now a law that (now matter how much you're coughing, > sneezing, and dripping from the nose) you must record your personal > info into a book at the store when you buy anything with > pseudoephedrine. Same in Nebraska. It's just "feel good" legislation, AFAIC. The first time I purchased [generic Sudafed<tm>] following the implementation of the law, I logged-in at the pharmacy. After being given the stuff, I then asked (tongue-in-cheek) where I could find the anhydrous ammonia and propane tanks. They were NOT amused. <sigh> JR >>>Meth, Ken. Propane tank, anhydrous ammonia and pseudo-ephedrine. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > info into a book at the store when you buy anything with > pseudoephedrine. When I went to Rite-Aid to get my last sudafed clone, I asked the clerk who sold it to me what would happen to the book I was signing. He said they(the Pharmacy)did not know, they hadn't gotten to that yet. He said it's a Federal rule. As a rule, I keep enough cough type medications on hand to get the whole family(down to 2) through a bout, then re-stock immediately afterward. There's not much worse than needing to go out and buy medicine when you can barely get to the bathroom from your bed. Mary |
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