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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2006Good Sam magazine
On page 10 of the July issue, some guy is complimenting a Pacific Tire and Brake service center. He is telling how his 1983 Allegro "made a clunk and the brake pedal went down almost to the floor". They were almost at their campsite so he drove it there, set up camp, then he "crawled underneath and looked things over, but found nothing. The next morning he took off heading for a city almost 100 miles away. On the way he heard "a horrible squealing noise coming from the front brakes". HE DROVE ON to the next city where he had the brakes fixed. He had lost a disk brake pad. I am glad he lives on the West coast and hope he stays there. I guess the lesson here is................If your brakes make a big "clunk" and then brake pedal goes to the floor and then the brakes start making a loud squealing noise..................just keep driving.  SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) I see where "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jerry@righthere.com> contributed: >On page 10 of the July issue, some guy is complimenting a Pacific Tire and >Brake service center. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >He had lost a disk brake pad. >I am glad he lives on the West coast and hope he stays there. It should come as no surprise that it is possible for a complete moron to obtain the keys for a motorhome, and to operate same on the public roads. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >>It should come as no surprise that it is possible for a complete moron > to obtain the keys for a motorhome, and to operate same on the public > roads.<< If he couldn't figure out that the loud squeling noise was the sound of metal to metal in the brakes, I wonder what he thought he would notice by crawling under the RV. It would be like me thinking that if I look in the back of the TV set I will be able to tell why there is no picture. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:42:36 GMT, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jerry@righthere.com> wrote: >If he couldn't figure out that the loud squeling noise was the sound of >metal to metal in the brakes, I wonder what he thought he would notice by >crawling under the RV. >It would be like me thinking that if I look in the back of the TV set I will >be able to tell why there is no picture. I think maybe the thought process is "If I don't happen to see anything hanging loose, nothing broke." GB in NC IF he had actually looked at the brakes, he Would have seen the missing inboard pad. What a dumass. Not to mention that they had to have been grinding for some time for it to get thin enough to fall out. I worked on one once where the guy drove it so long the entire disk was lathed off the center of the hub and was sitting still whilst the hub rotated inside of it. He came in only when it disconnected and started pulling "a little". SignatureSteve Barker >>>It should come as no surprise that it is possible for a complete moron >> to obtain the keys for a motorhome, and to operate same on the public [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It would be like me thinking that if I look in the back of the TV set I > will be able to tell why there is no picture. >>IF he had actually looked at the brakes, he Would have seen the > missing inboard pad. What a dumass. Not to mention that they had to > have been grinding for some time for it to get thin enough to fall out.<< And then to top it all off, he writes to a magazine about the incident and puts his name and address on the letter. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) >>> IF he had actually looked at the brakes, he Would have seen the >> missing inboard pad. What a dumass. Not to mention that they had to >> have been grinding for some time for it to get thin enough to fall out.<< > > And then to top it all off, he writes to a magazine about the incident and > puts his name and address on the letter. What I find even more interesting is that the Good Sam (it is NOT a club) magazine people, so afraid of alienating even one subscriber, did not choose to use this occurrence as an example of the pitiful nature of some who drive these behemoths on the public roads. The Good Sam answer was useless as an admonition against this sort of person even being allowed to drive any vehicle. That is why we need better licensing laws for operators of RVs. These laws would not be an accusation of incompetence against the majority of us who handle our rigs well enough, but they might at least get some of these clowns off the road. Such people are a danger to all of us. Ken > That is why we need better licensing laws for operators of RVs. These > laws would not be an accusation of incompetence against the majority > of us who handle our rigs well enough, but they might at least get > some of these clowns off the road. Such people are a danger to all > of us. They did a thing on TV about the guy who was towing a toad that blew out a tire and the driver didn't notice it. He set fires along the road for 5 miles or so. Many people flashed their lights, honked their horn and waved at him....and he kept right on driving down the road. He said people do that all the time. How many of you have people flash their lights, honk their horn and wave their hands at you as you drive down the road ? This guy must be a nitwit behind the wheel. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) I see where Ken Harrison <sptrain98@earthlink.net> contributed: >That is why we need better licensing laws for operators of RVs. These >laws would not be an accusation of incompetence against the majority of >us who handle our rigs well enough, but they might at least get some of >these clowns off the road. Such people are a danger to all of us. Sorry, I disagree. No licensing law - let alone 50 different versions of same - can possibly weed out Stupid. The vast majority of wrecks occur because someone does something easily recognized as Stupid - NOT because of a lack of knowledge. Training provides knowledge; licensing creates another bungling bureaucracy to suck up money - neither prevents Stupid. As an industrial Safety Engineer (anklebiters, here's your opening!) I've investigated thousands of incidents. Only very rarely does lack of training prove to be the root cause of an incident. Instead, most problem incidents arise from bad judgment or a deliberate attempt to break the rules. More stringent licensing is a costly solution in search of a problem that simply isn't a Big Deal. For every blundering bozo who doesn't know enough to shift his bulgemobile down descending mountain roads there are a hundred thousand who manage to engage their brains well enough to get along OK. When was the last time a gummit program solved a problem anyway? Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >When was the last time a gummit program solved a problem anyway? > >Will Sill >The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Well, Will, EVERY time the gummit starts a new program or expands it, it solves part of the problem of what to do with those incompetents that were drawing welfare or otherwise were costing the gummit. A good example was the Census of 2000. They hired unemployed people that never had a job and made them the supervisors. If you had experience, they did not want you. However, the fact that those incompetents "worked" for a period of time, the gummit justified extending unemployment and other welfare benefits. I do agree with your comment that added licensing will not solve anything, especially when most of the present licensing officials have no concept on how to operate even a four wheeler safely let alone any type of large rig. Anyone that expects the gummint to do ANYTHING efficiently or for the good of the people is living in a ream world. George >As an industrial Safety Engineer (anklebiters, here's your opening!) >I've investigated thousands of incidents. Not biting anybody's ankles -- just curious: "Thousands of incidents," you say? Wouldn't a major part of a Safety Engineer's job be to *reduce* safety incidents? That must have been some deadly toilet paper factory.... GB in NC >>>> IF he had actually looked at the brakes, he Would have seen the >>> missing inboard pad. What a dumass. Not to mention that they had to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Ken and exactly how would 'better licensing laws for operators of RV's' prevented this situation? you're trying to screen for common sense and that's a fool's errand. 73, rich, n9dko |
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