I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
appreciated:)
Frank Tabor - 04 Aug 2006 00:16 GMT
>I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
>the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
>said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
>me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
>trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
>appreciated:)
The same people frequent all the forums. I think you will find that
they all will tell you that you are either the biggest dumb a.s around
or the biggest troll. I haven't figured out for sure yet which applies.

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Rick Onanian - 04 Aug 2006 00:22 GMT
> I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
> the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
> said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
> me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
> trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
> appreciated:)
I didn't read anything hurtful, except for guesses.
I did read posts accusing you of being a troll, and I suspect they are
entirely correct. If you want to troll some another newsgroup, it was
suggested repeatedly to you where you should ask about popups, back
when you first started posting.
Giving you the benefit of a doubt, though, here's a little more.
There's _no_way_ that a vehicle similar to a Jeep Wrangler (as you
claimed your vehicle is in a couple posts where you decided that it
wasn't in fact a Mitsubishi Blade, which you seemed to claim was
similar to a Jeep Wrangler) can tow a 14 foot travel trailer. Not only
will it simply not go, but if you manage to get up to speed, you will
wipe out, probably killing yourself and your children. That is not an
insult, merely a warning.
I still would like to see a picture of a Mitsubishi Blade. I can't find
any evidence on Google that such a vehicle exists.
Tomes - 04 Aug 2006 05:08 GMT
alt.rv.pop-up-trailers
Mostly different people there.
>I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
> the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
> said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
> me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
> trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
> appreciated:)
miles - 04 Aug 2006 06:11 GMT
> I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
> the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
> said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
> me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
> trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
> appreciated:)
Try www.motorhomemagazine.com/forums
Even though its by motor home magazine there is an excellent forum there
for popups. Many other forums that have great info just about anyone no
matter what they tow. I prefer it over alt.rv.pop-up-trailers.
Hp - 04 Aug 2006 12:55 GMT
Go to Woodall's . com forum. Probably the largest one. One can read for
hours. Get all your questions asked.
>> I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
>> the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
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> for popups. Many other forums that have great info just about anyone no
> matter what they tow. I prefer it over alt.rv.pop-up-trailers.
miles - 04 Aug 2006 13:35 GMT
> Go to Woodall's . com forum. Probably the largest one. One can read for
> hours. Get all your questions asked.
>> Try www.motorhomemagazine.com/forums
Woodalls.com communitities is the exact same forum found on
motorhomemagazine.com or on campingworld.com. I believe its also the
same forum as found on trailerlife.com. They are all linked.
Burt - 05 Aug 2006 05:59 GMT
> I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
> the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
> said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
> me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
> trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
> appreciated:)
Before you ever post to another group there is a few things that you need to
do.
#1 Get the registration or title for your vehicle out of the glove box and
READ it. This piece of paper will describe exactly what you have. It will
tell you what the make is. It will tell you whether it is a 2wd or a 4wd.
It will tell you what the gross vehicle weight is in kg (kilograms)- being
Canadian. It will tell you the model of it. It will tell you what year it
is.
#2 This will let us all know exactly what you have, being indecisive about
your vehicle doesn't help us here, and you saying its something it isn't
doesn't help your rep here either.
#3 As others have told you, the best thing you can do is listen and reread
the comment if you don't understand.
#4 As others have said, your vehicle cannot tow anything heavy or long.
If it is a 4 cylinder vehicle the tow limit is probably in the 450 kg (1000
lb) vicinity. If the 6 cylinder, probably the 900 kg (2000 lb) vicinity.
Comment #5 tells you why.
#5 quote from http://www.suvexperience.com/jeepwranglertowing.html and
they are talking about a 2007 model Jeep Wrangler here with the 6 cylinder
motor. "The Jeep Wrangler has a towing capacity of 2000 lbs. Even though
they have the same engine as the Cherokee which has a towing capacity of
5000 lbs, this doesn't depend on the engine. The towing capacity is based on
its wheelbase. The shorter the wheel base the lesser weight in can tow." end
of quote
#6 The best you can pull would be a pop-up trailer that had very few
accessories in it that add weight such as a furnace & propane tank,
refrigerator, sink and fresh holding water tank.
#7 Here is the website for tow ratings for a 2000 model year Jeep Wrangler
. for reference
http://www.trailerlife.com/towratings/tr00_honda-jeep.cfm#jeep
Jeep Vehicle Engine Tow Limit Codes
Cherokee/Wrangler 2.5 I-4 2,000 (a)
Cherokee/Grand Cherokee 4.0 I-6 5,000 (b,c,d)
Wrangler 4.0 I-6 2,000 (f)
Grand Cherokee 5.2 V-8 6,500 (b,c,d,e)
Grand Cherokee Limited (4WD) 5.9 V-8 5,000 (b)
NOTE: Trailer brakes required on all trailers weighing more than 1,000
pounds.
(a) Wrangler rating is 1,000 pounds with automatic transmission.
(b) Requires weight-distributing hitch with a maximum hitch weight of 750
pounds.
(c) Requires trailer-towing package.
(d) Requires automatic transmission.
(e) 4WD rated 200 pounds lower.
(f) Maximum hitch weight of 300 pounds.
Now listen to the experience of this group and also do some research on the
computer. Obviously have one as your posting here. Start at searching your
vehicle, learn about it, (and get the model & make right, include whether a
4/6/8 cylinder, model year) then post your questions.
For what its worth!!!
Burt
Will Sill - 05 Aug 2006 14:45 GMT
I see where "moomoo" <babyturk@shaw.ca> contributed:
>I have had some poor illmannered advice, no offense most of you gave me
>the most awsome advice., but do to some hurtful things that have been
>said about my financial situation, I am hoping that maybe you can help
>me out so I can find a forum that is more suited towards smaller camper
>trailers 14-17.5 feet? or pop up campers your help would be greatly
>appreciated:)
Hehehehe. . . . not too hard to see why this party has recently gone
through a messy divorce. Sad but true - I can visualize this party as
a litigant before Judge Joe Brown.
Ever wonder what the rejects are like??
Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Rick Onanian - 05 Aug 2006 19:48 GMT
> a litigant before Judge Joe Brown.
> Ever wonder what the rejects are like??
I'd guess that the rejects are decent, normal people, but I doubt that
such people would apply.