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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / September 2006

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Towable vs Motorized RV

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Jim Redelfs - 18 Sep 2006 13:50 GMT
What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it "better"
than the other type?

Over the years, I have come "full circle" in my opinion of which is "better",
overall.

I used to think it was a waste of a perfectly good drive train for a motorhome
to just SIT between outings.

Then there I began to consider the HUGE, fire-breathing, gas-guzzling pickups
that are necessary to tow a roomy towable.  I can see that as tolerable for a
fulltiming RVer, but as my daily driver, the ongoing expense of operating my
tow vehicle - mostly used for solo driving purposes - is getting "old".

If I had a motorhome, I would enjoy driving a small car such as my wife's
Toyota Corolla most of the time and can imagine truly NEEDING a pickup rarely.

After unhitching their quad-slide fiver, I think it is amuzing to consider the
campers with their diesel and big block duallies as they chug their way out of
camp for some sightseeing or making a run for a loaf of bread.

I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.
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SnoMan - 18 Sep 2006 15:13 GMT
>What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it "better"
>than the other type?
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>I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.


This is without doubt a "firery" subject because there are pro's and
con's to both senerios. Some will swear by motorhomes and some by TT's
and 5ths. I do not think there is really a best possible solultion out
there as it is what works for you that matters, not what works for
someone else. Myself I have made several cross country trips in a few
different large motor homes and they have their nice point (like
eating on the fly sometimes) put I am not in love with them and can
live without them. On a 5th wheel TT it is simplly possible to do some
things slidout wise that are not possible on a MH and have a lower
entrance height too.  Like I said earlier, no clear cut answer.
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RonB - 18 Sep 2006 18:58 GMT
I think you are in for quite a few opinions.  Hopefully some will guide you.
While we have given motorhome some thought, our preference has been towable.
We agree that using the tow vehicle to do our run-around trips is less
economical than towing a compact; but we feel we have made a pretty good
compromise by moving from fire-breating gas guzzler to a more economical
diesel.  This commits only one powered vehicle to our trips.  Buy moving
from an 8.1L 2500HD to a Duramax version of the same truck we get good
compromise for our shopping and sightseeing while traveling.  We also get
very good utility from the pickup at thome

Some 8.1L vs Duramax comparisons:

- Around Town Driving - 10.5 mpg vs 17 mpg
- Highway Driving, No Trailer - 13 mpg vs 21 mpg
- Highway Driving, 30' Cedar Creek 5th Wheel (12'+ clearance) - 7.5 mpg vs
11.0 mpg (limited towing so far.  More data in about a month)

I suspect a lot of larger motorhomes will provide fuel use figures similar
to the 8.1L.   However, there is some giveback with the diesel in terms of
maintenance.  On the other hand the diesel will pay back much of this in
terms of resale value.  Diesel fuel prices are out of balance with gasoline
at the moment but even with a .20 per gallon difference, we are seeing more
than $100/per month better cash flow for overall use.

Bottom line for us is we need a pickup for the types of non-traveling things
we do,  so using it to tow our traveling rig just makes sense - Again, For
Us!

RonB

> What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it
> "better"
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> I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.
SnoMan - 18 Sep 2006 19:13 GMT
>Some 8.1L vs Duramax comparisons:
>
>- Around Town Driving - 10.5 mpg vs 17 mpg
>- Highway Driving, No Trailer - 13 mpg vs 21 mpg
>- Highway Driving, 30' Cedar Creek 5th Wheel (12'+ clearance) - 7.5 mpg vs
>11.0 mpg (limited towing so far.  More data in about a month)

Stop using 87 octane fuel and you will see a MPG and performance
increase with 8.1 especailly when towing. The ECM is retarding the
spark so much to prevent knock before you hear it that the MPG will be
far from its best. I had a 8.1 loaner for a well that wouls get 15 to
16 on highway IF you did not use 87 octane in it and it was a whole
lot more fun to drive than a Dmax was. Besides you must factor in fuel
cost too as diesel will never be cheaper than gas and will likely
always cost a lot more and when you factor in Dmax price to whet have
you gained. Today I can buy 93 octane for 2.25/gal (been that way for
over a week and I have seen it for 2.19) and diesel is 2.87.
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Will Sill - 18 Sep 2006 19:28 GMT
There is no "right answer" - everything depends son a wide variety of
factors - most notably your personal preferences and travel style.  As
a _general_ rule those who travel a lot and park for short periods
will like a MH - for many reasons unnecessary to recount.   OTOH,
those who park for long periods are likely to prefer a trailer - for
an equal number of good reasons.

We've had a wide variety of rv's - virtually all the usual ones other
than a bus conversion and a pickup camper, and find each type has
clear advantages for certain circumstances.   Think through the
circumstances and you'll reach a better conclusion.  (One conclusion
all smart people come to is that even the "best" is a compromise.)

Will Sill
Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it
very often.
lanman - 19 Sep 2006 08:16 GMT
>What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it "better"
>than the other type?
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>
>I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.

Pulling a toad behind a Class A may save some gas while running for a
load of bread, but if you ever get in tight spot and have to back up
with a toad, particularly with a trailer or dolly, you may be in for
an exciting experience.
john - 20 Sep 2006 00:23 GMT
> What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it "better"
> than the other type?
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>
> I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.

We had a Fifth Wheel and 1 Ton P/U. We were entirely satisfied with it
but we decided, that getting older,e wanted a little more convenience
and ease of operation.
One thing it cost a hell of a lot more. You have got to be committed to
the idea or in need of commitment to buy one. Haven't decided which
applies yet.
All we have to do is park, dump the air, hit a button to lower the jacks
and level the rig and extend the slides. Still have to plug in the
electrical but don't have to wrestle the cable from a compartment and
hook up both ends. Connect the water just like a towable. The sewer hose
is somewhat easier. Emptying the tanks and sanitizing and winterizing
are a lot easier.
If we camp, dry, the generator can handle any load. Some towables have
generators too but probably not as large and you have to have another
fuel tank.
I figured we can't take it with us might as well spend it. Still in 5
years or so will probably do something else.
If you get a Class A Motorhome expect much more fuel expense. Of course
I guess you figured that one already. The insurance, if you have a
permanent residence also, is not very bad. It runs us about 800.00
(State Farm) because the interior is covered by our Homeowners policy. I
couldn't believe it at first. Another agent quoted 5000.00 per year but
I guess that was full timing without other coverage for the interior
items. The Saturn tows great but a little pain in the butt to unhook.
Watch  the WalMart or Truck Stop where you park your Motorhome.  Some
jerk keyed it already. Some folks can't stand to see anyone else with a
new toy.
tat-2 - 20 Sep 2006 15:46 GMT
> What are two or three aspects of a towable or motorhome that make it
> "better"
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> I'm leaning toward a motorhome if/when I replace my TT.

I find that driving and backing into a site is much easier with a MH vs the
towable. I also decided to go with the MH because I had a fairly new low
milage car that I did not want to give away on a trade for a truck. (pros)

Insurance is higher but not that much as I pay $285 for full coverage with
$$250/$500 deductables and 100/300/100 liability. Inspections are more
costly.
As others have stated, there are many different opinions on the "which is
best"

Space in a Class c is smaller then the same size towable. Exp: a 26' MH Vs.
26' TT both are 26' long but the MH loses about 6-8 for driver/passenger
seats.

I have never owned a class A so I can't comment on those models.

Ed
 
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