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HD Matt - 10 Oct 2006 18:36 GMT
Buddy of mine has a reasonably new class C and has a problem with his
generator. It's a Onan Microquiet 4000, Model # 4KV-FA261000J.

According to him it was working fine less than a month ago. Went to
start it and exercise it the other day and it wouldn't even turn over.
The manual says that you can get a trouble code out of it by counted
the number of times the light in the start/stop switch blinks. What
he's getting is a seady 1 second on/1 second off blink with a "clunk"
noise everytime the light blinks. Nothing in the book. Battery is fully
charged.

As usual he is getting ready to use the rig. His family and ours are
getting preped to go to the Nascar race in Martinsville in a couple of
weeks.

Any help and insight into solving this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Alan thanks for any input you might have. As always it would be much
appreciated. Sorry about the double post but, with all the OT around
here I wanted to make sure I got your attention.

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Anne Watson - 10 Oct 2006 19:07 GMT
Fast answer/  Check the oil level.  Lots of them will not start if they are
low on oil.
Next fast click.:  If it will try to start but won't stay running.  Low fuel
in the tank that supplies gasoline.  Built in gennies will only draw if the
regular gas tank is less than 1/4 full.

Anne
> Buddy of mine has a reasonably new class C and has a problem with his
> generator. It's a Onan Microquiet 4000, Model # 4KV-FA261000J.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> appreciated. Sorry about the double post but, with all the OT around
> here I wanted to make sure I got your attention.
RAM³ - 10 Oct 2006 19:15 GMT
> Fast answer/  Check the oil level.  Lots of them will not start if they
> are low on oil.
> Next fast click.:  If it will try to start but won't stay running.  Low
> fuel in the tank that supplies gasoline.  Built in gennies will only
> draw if the regular gas tank is less than 1/4 full.

Wouldn't that be AT LEAST 1/4 FULL? <G>

If all he's getting is a 'klunk' from the starter, a corroded 12+V connection
would seem likely - although, according to Onan's Troubleshooting Guide (p.
26 of their Owners Manual) <http://www.onan.com/pdf/rv/f-1123.pdf> there may
be a blown fuse on the control panel...
Matt - 10 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT
> > Fast answer/  Check the oil level.  Lots of them will not start if they
> > are low on oil.
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> 26 of their Owners Manual) <http://www.onan.com/pdf/rv/f-1123.pdf> there may
> be a blown fuse on the control panel...

Not a clunk when trying to start but, a clunk everytime the light
blinks when not touchnig anything. ???

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Alan Robinson - 11 Oct 2006 03:30 GMT
> Buddy of mine has a reasonably new class C and has a problem with his
> generator. It's a Onan Microquiet 4000, Model # 4KV-FA261000J.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> appreciated. Sorry about the double post but, with all the OT around
> here I wanted to make sure I got your attention.

Well, since I don't have that manual here at home, this is going to be a
little basic until I get a chance to read up on it tomorrow <g>. Don't know
where the 'clunk' with nothing depressed is coming from, but it sounds like
the starter drive gear may be jammed against the flywheel - which keeps the
starter from rotating, which draws a bunch of extra current, which may be
pulling the voltage at the genset and controls down far enough that it just
keeps recycling through the start command without recognizing that it has
failed.

First, unplug the control fuse - hopefully this will stop the light and
clunk.

Disconnect the battery. Reach into the air plenum accessible at the left
side of the service door and far enough back to reach the engine cooling
fan/flywheel. Grab one of the fins and try to rotate the genset - you may
have to rock it back and forth if the starter drive gear is jammed against
the flywheel, but it -should- release and let you continue rotating the
genset.

If you were able to rotate the genset, hook the battery back up, put the
control fuse back in, and see what happens.

Alan
HD Matt - 12 Oct 2006 17:01 GMT
> > Buddy of mine has a reasonably new class C and has a problem with his
> > generator. It's a Onan Microquiet 4000, Model # 4KV-FA261000J.
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>
> Alan

Well my buddy tried that and no luck. He has an appointment to have it
fixed at the nearest Onan shop.

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