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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / December 2006

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Cummins Lift Pump Early Warning Problem with ULSD

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Dapper Dave - 26 Nov 2006 15:49 GMT
Uh oh.

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Eregon - 26 Nov 2006 22:23 GMT
> http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18714819/srt/pa/p
> ging/1/page/1.cfm

Too bad there's no way to make those @#$%^&* tree-huggers pay for the
replacement.

If they want to cause engine damage then they should pay for not only the
parts and labor but the downtime as well. $1,000/hour [$24,000/day] for
downtime while waiting for repairs to be complete would be about right.

The bill could be split between the Sierra Club and the DNC.

Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
transmission: it'll be up to the consumer to pay for either a new TV or an
add-on tuner.

The honorable thing would be for the Networks to provide either the
tuner/converter boxes or replacement wide-screen HDTVs that provide the same
image height as the existing TVs.

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Don Bradner - 27 Nov 2006 04:49 GMT
>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
>able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
>transmission

Hard to be similar, when there is NO mandated switch-over to HD (only
or otherwise). None planned, either.

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Eregon - 27 Nov 2006 05:02 GMT
>>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
>>able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
>>transmission
>
> Hard to be similar, when there is NO mandated switch-over to HD (only
> or otherwise). None planned, either.

You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.

While there were, a couple of years ago, proposals of inexpensive [<$50] set-top boxes to be supplied, that movement seems to have died off.

The "push" to HDTV serves 2 purposes:
       1. The "freeing up" of significant broadcast bandwidth, especially in the VHF range.
       2. The TV manufacturers/importers/sellers get to sell a LOT of new TV sets.

Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.
Rick Onanian - 27 Nov 2006 05:18 GMT
> The "push" to HDTV serves 2 purposes:
>         1. The "freeing up" of significant broadcast bandwidth, especially in the VHF range.
>         2. The TV manufacturers/importers/sellers get to sell a LOT of new TV sets.
>
> Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.

And 3. A large black market for TV output cards will pop up so people
can use big (now free because they're otherwise useless) TVs as computer
monitors. And by "people", I mean "me"...

Right, I better get on that TV output card soon.
Ralph E Lindberg - 27 Nov 2006 13:23 GMT
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> You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics
> outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be
> sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to
> terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.

 rare for Don to be wrong on a technical issue, but you are right and
he is wrong

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paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 29 Nov 2006 17:35 GMT
> ..
> > You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics
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Switch over is slated for 2009....
mrehmus - 27 Nov 2006 15:36 GMT
> >>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
> >>able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.

The HD-only requirement is a myth. The law requires only digital
transmission and makes no reference to the resolution of the signal.
Therefore, SD will continue to be broadcast as long as the transmitting
station wishes to do so. I do expect set-top boxes to be available when
they are needed. Not everyone in the US will buy a new TV just to
accommodate a digital signal and there will be plenty of companies that
will make set-top boxes.

BTW, IIRC, the FCC only controls BROADCAST signals, not cable or
satellite. So those two delivery systems could go right on with their
analog transmissions and probably will.
Don Bradner - 27 Nov 2006 16:40 GMT
>You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.

Well, so far this morning, only 1 in 3 replies realizes that you are
wrong in your conclusion based on the above correct statement.

That shows just how widespread the "myth of mandated HD" is, when 3
out of 4 posters believe it!

As noted, your statement above is roughly correct. Digital is
mandated.

Now, read it again, and again, and tell me where you find HD, or High
Def?

Digital is mandated. Digital is not HD. A high percentage of stations
in this country have zero plans at this point to broadcast HD,
although most have at least a test signal up on digital.

I repeat, there is no mandated HD. Ever.

Digital-to-analog convertors will be a dime-a-dozen.
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Don Bradner - 28 Nov 2006 01:32 GMT
>While there were, a couple of years ago, proposals of inexpensive [<$50] set-top boxes to be supplied, that movement seems to have died off.

Since there was no plan to have them available yet, that doesn't
exactly equate to dying off.

Apropos to your earlier comment:
>The honorable thing would be for the Networks to provide either
> the tuner/converter boxes or replacement wide-screen HDTVs
>that provide the same image height as the existing TVs.

While I've debunked the HD part, I didn't address the cost issue for
converters.

The law that forces DTV (not HDTV) takes the money from the auction of
the freed-up spectrum and distributes it in several ways. One is the
availability of up to two $40 coupons for every household for use to
buy converters. Roughly $3 Billion available. You think that there
won't be just a few companies happy to take that money?
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Rudy - 01 Dec 2006 17:41 GMT
>>>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't
>>>be
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the
> mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.

It is always so reassuring to know, that we can always depend on you for the
wrong information, and in turn I would like to offer you this free offer of
a bouquet of skunk cabbage, redeemable at any time.  Rudy
SnoMan - 27 Nov 2006 12:38 GMT
>Too bad there's no way to make those @#$%^&* tree-huggers pay for the
>replacement.

Why should they? Woo is paying for tha damage to air from them???.
Look they got on gasoline over 30 years ago about sulpher and it is
long overdue to get it out of diesel fuel. Detriot has know that LSD
and ULSD was coming for a long time but has choosen to avoid the issue
in their designs. Austrailia has been using low sulpher fuel for years
but detriot has choosen to take the cheap way out and ignore it. Blame
the tree hugger if you want but the real blame is on Detriot for
exploiting a loop hole in emissions for years with their designs
knowing that one day it would close. Diesel are also bad NOx poluters
and have escape serious regs on them for years (reg that have be
required on gas engines for over 30 years now). TIme to level the
playing field because where it not for regs on gas motors today they
woul be different animals too.ANother way to look at it,it is another
reason to buy a new vehicle of your old one does not like the new fuel
which is good for Detriots pocket book but bad for yours. Below is a
link to some info I have put together on LSD and ULSD and with it a
link to some info on problem that the Aussies  are having with the new
fuel.

http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=227
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Ralph E Lindberg - 27 Nov 2006 13:25 GMT
> >Too bad there's no way to make those @#$%^&* tree-huggers pay for the
> >replacement.
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> in their designs. Austrailia has been using low sulpher fuel for years
> but detriot has choosen to take the cheap way out and ignore it.....

Europe also, One thing that ULSD will allow, is import of those
excellent European diesel car engines

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Randy G. - 29 Nov 2006 04:15 GMT
>Uh oh.
>
><http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18714819/srt/pa/pging/1/
page/1.cfm
>
>or
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/vaow7

Thank you for posting that. A friend just bought a 1992, 38' Alfa and
I was able to pass the info on to him so he can check to see if it was
(or needs to be) updated before he gets ready to set off on his first
long trip.
 From Randy & Val
1990 30' Rexhal Airex
 
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