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>>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
>>able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
>>transmission
>
> Hard to be similar, when there is NO mandated switch-over to HD (only
> or otherwise). None planned, either.
You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.
While there were, a couple of years ago, proposals of inexpensive [<$50] set-top boxes to be supplied, that movement seems to have died off.
The "push" to HDTV serves 2 purposes:
1. The "freeing up" of significant broadcast bandwidth, especially in the VHF range.
2. The TV manufacturers/importers/sellers get to sell a LOT of new TV sets.
Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.
Rick Onanian - 27 Nov 2006 05:18 GMT
> The "push" to HDTV serves 2 purposes:
> 1. The "freeing up" of significant broadcast bandwidth, especially in the VHF range.
> 2. The TV manufacturers/importers/sellers get to sell a LOT of new TV sets.
>
> Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.
And 3. A large black market for TV output cards will pop up so people
can use big (now free because they're otherwise useless) TVs as computer
monitors. And by "people", I mean "me"...
Right, I better get on that TV output card soon.
Ralph E Lindberg - 27 Nov 2006 13:23 GMT
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> You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics
> outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be
> sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to
> terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.
rare for Don to be wrong on a technical issue, but you are right and
he is wrong

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paul.flansburg@hotmail.com - 29 Nov 2006 17:35 GMT
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> > You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics
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mrehmus - 27 Nov 2006 15:36 GMT
> >>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't be
> >>able to receive any signals once the mandated switch-over to HD-only
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> Broadcasters in many areas have already begun to "simulcast" on both NTSC and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.
The HD-only requirement is a myth. The law requires only digital
transmission and makes no reference to the resolution of the signal.
Therefore, SD will continue to be broadcast as long as the transmitting
station wishes to do so. I do expect set-top boxes to be available when
they are needed. Not everyone in the US will buy a new TV just to
accommodate a digital signal and there will be plenty of companies that
will make set-top boxes.
BTW, IIRC, the FCC only controls BROADCAST signals, not cable or
satellite. So those two delivery systems could go right on with their
analog transmissions and probably will.
Don Bradner - 27 Nov 2006 16:40 GMT
>You might wish to revise that statement, Don, since (1.) every electronics outlet has signs up stating that, by Federal Law, no NTSC equipment is to be sold after 12/31/2007 or 2008 and (2.) the broadcasting of NTSC signals is to terminate soon thereafter according to the FCC.
Well, so far this morning, only 1 in 3 replies realizes that you are
wrong in your conclusion based on the above correct statement.
That shows just how widespread the "myth of mandated HD" is, when 3
out of 4 posters believe it!
As noted, your statement above is roughly correct. Digital is
mandated.
Now, read it again, and again, and tell me where you find HD, or High
Def?
Digital is mandated. Digital is not HD. A high percentage of stations
in this country have zero plans at this point to broadcast HD,
although most have at least a test signal up on digital.
I repeat, there is no mandated HD. Ever.
Digital-to-analog convertors will be a dime-a-dozen.

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Don Bradner - 28 Nov 2006 01:32 GMT
>While there were, a couple of years ago, proposals of inexpensive [<$50] set-top boxes to be supplied, that movement seems to have died off.
Since there was no plan to have them available yet, that doesn't
exactly equate to dying off.
Apropos to your earlier comment:
>The honorable thing would be for the Networks to provide either
> the tuner/converter boxes or replacement wide-screen HDTVs
>that provide the same image height as the existing TVs.
While I've debunked the HD part, I didn't address the cost issue for
converters.
The law that forces DTV (not HDTV) takes the money from the auction of
the freed-up spectrum and distributes it in several ways. One is the
availability of up to two $40 coupons for every household for use to
buy converters. Roughly $3 Billion available. You think that there
won't be just a few companies happy to take that money?

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Rudy - 01 Dec 2006 17:41 GMT
>>>Of course, it's a similar situation to that with televisions that won't
>>>be
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> and HD and have already announced their intended compliance with the
> mandated HD-only transmission per FCC timeframe.
It is always so reassuring to know, that we can always depend on you for the
wrong information, and in turn I would like to offer you this free offer of
a bouquet of skunk cabbage, redeemable at any time. Rudy