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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / December 2006OIL filter wrenches
This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you need a wrench, it was put on too tight. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000I0XYYG/sz-tool-20/ref=nosim  SignatureSteve Barker > This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you > need a wrench, it was put on too tight. That has been my experience from wrenching for over forty years now. I was amazed that it would come from the factory like that. Steve > This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you need > a wrench, it was put on too tight. > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000I0XYYG/sz-tool-20/ref=nosim I have one like that but this type works even better. I would venture to say it will work an any filter. http://tinyurl.com/trwam Or http://tinyurl.com/y8d3vx >> This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you >> need a wrench, it was put on too tight. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/y8d3vx I'd have to get one and try it. It's pretty tight in there. Is the '06 different from previous years? Let's hear from owners and see how much room they have. Steve > This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you need > a wrench, it was put on too tight. You know, I've seen a lot of responses saying "it was put on too tight", as if the OP wasn't 100% sure of that or doesn't appear to know how to avoid it. Didn't anybody read his post, where he said that it came that way from the factory, and he doesn't understand why anybody would install it so tight, and a later post where he suggested that somebody might as well have used a long-handled wrench to so unreasonably tighten it? I mean, come on...lay off the poor guy, folks. It's just that soooooo many times i've seen so called techs use an oil filter wrench to put one back on. And that 3/4 turn after gasket contact is BS also. That's way too tight. SignatureSteve Barker >> This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you >> need a wrench, it was put on too tight. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I mean, come on...lay off the poor guy, folks. > It's just that soooooo many times i've seen so called techs use an oil > filter wrench to put one back on. And that 3/4 turn after gasket contact > is BS also. That's way too tight. This is what I do, and it's probably wrong, but I can cope with it if I'm wrong. I tighten it as good as I can by hand. Then I put a wrench on it, and give it about 1/8 turn, and maybe another if it doesn't feel snug. I do watch it for a puddle for a week, though. Steve It is that procedure right there, that makes it so you need a wrench to get it off. WAY too tight. SignatureSteve Barker > This is what I do, and it's probably wrong, but I can cope with it if I'm > wrong. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Steve > It is that procedure right there, that makes it so you need a wrench to > get it off. WAY too tight. How do YOU do it? Steve A thin coat of chassis grease on the gasket. (not oil). Then spin it on till it stops. THEN, for the average strength man, just how ever tight feels right with one hand. There's really no need to smash the gasket clear down till the metal hits the block. SignatureSteve Barker >> It is that procedure right there, that makes it so you need a wrench to >> get it off. WAY too tight. > > How do YOU do it? > > Steve >A thin coat of chassis grease on the gasket. (not oil). Then spin it on >till it stops. THEN, for the average strength man, just how ever tight >feels right with one hand. There's really no need to smash the gasket >clear down till the metal hits the block. I think we're talking about the same thing. Spin it on. Snug it up. Then just a TAD more, like about 1/2" measured at the end of the wrench. Don't want it to spin or blow off, and don't want to smoosh the gasket. Steve >> This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you >> need a wrench, it was put on too tight. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I mean, come on...lay off the poor guy, folks. Rick, I think I may have been the first one to mention it, having missed the factory reference. However, it seems like Steve needs us to make the point, because he still feels it necessary to tighten an oil filter with a wrench. In general, I wonder if most of the tightening people do is damaging and way beyond what is necessary. It would be far better to under-tighten and then check the object/connection on a periodic basis. Or, use a torque wrench if appropriate, or follow the manufac suggestions, yadda yadda. But that takes a different kind of effort - to be diligent in checking. There may be a need for some folks to use a wrench in this case (arthritis, for instance) but then I'd be wondering if they should be climbing under a car in the first place. Just my 2 cents, but the lengthy discussion is what it took to get Steve to say that he uses a wrench to install the filter, that kind of information takes time to draw it out. Ask any cop or lawyer! Scout There may be a need > for some folks to use a wrench in this case (arthritis, for instance) but > then I'd be wondering if they should be climbing under a car in the first > place. Just my 2 cents, but the lengthy discussion is what it took to get > Steve to say that he uses a wrench to install the filter, that kind of > information takes time to draw it out. Ask any cop or lawyer! > Scout And now for the rest of the story. In order to get to this filter, you must pass by some body and frame parts. On one side, you have to slip your hand between the frame and the plastic shroud that surrounds the tire. The edge of this shroud is sharp. I take coumadin, an anticlotting drug because I have had an aortic valve replaced with a lifetime guaranteed mechanical one. I cut easily, and when I do, it bleeds a lot. Like blood flowing out, and down off my fingertips. My wife has become more calm about this over the last 4.5 years, and now when she sees me bleeding, asks, "Is it a bad one?" Yeah or no, I say. I have found that it is better to just leave the blood there, and it clots over because if I wipe it, it just keeps flowing. So, sometimes when I am through with mechanical work, I'm rather a mess. But like you say. Sometimes there is a special reason that a person does it that way. That's mine. I cannot do everything I used to be able to do because of the danger, but I refuse to live in a bubble and not do some of the regular things. Like I said to one guy, when I have to have someone else change my filter and oil, I will sell the truck. Well, maybe not that drastic a solution, but you get the drift. Plus, now that I have the cup socket, I can just stick the whole assembly up there, filter, cup socket, ratchet extension, ratchet, and spin her on, and when snug, just an eighth of a turn more. I don't have to cut my hands again on the same project. But that first time was an unnecessary mofo due to some idiot or particular practice at the factory. I guess they wanted NO chance of that filter coming off under regular operating conditions, and that's what they got. It is easy (and I do it a LOT) to sit behind a keyboard and tell people how this should be done, or how they should act in that situation, or just give advice in general without knowing the rest of the story. I stub my toe on that one regularly. Steve snipped > I take coumadin, an anticlotting drug because I have had an aortic valve > replaced with a lifetime guaranteed mechanical one. I cut easily, and when > I do, it bleeds a lot. Like blood flowing out, and down off my fingertips. snipped > Steve What INR does your cardiologist try keeping you at Steve. Mine keeps me in the 1.8 to 3.0 range. I regularly am at 1.8 to 2.3 and even though a cut bleeds some, it doesn't do so profusely. I've been on the same dosage 2.5, 2.5, 5 for about three years. Go to the Vampire every six weeks or so with the Doc's blessing. Something to keep in mind with the mechanical valve is the possible chance of tissue growing over it and causing problems. Mine was replaced in '94 and my last checkup showed no problems. Doc seemed kinda surprised but was happy with the results. Hugh > snipped >> I take coumadin, an anticlotting drug because I have had an aortic valve [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > happy with the results. > Hugh Mine is supposed to be 2.5 - 3.0. Been holding good at 30., taking 7.5mg daily. I go tomorrow for the annual (18 months since the last due to the new better retirement insurance) echo and stress test. Been feeling a little poorly lately, and am anxious to get the results. So far, so good. I do a lot for someone with a 5 way bypass and aortic valve replace. My doc, too is happy with me. I was 54 when I had it done, and in pretty decent shape physically compared to many of the patients having the same work done. Last year, my sister was the first female in the United States to receive a LVA. Left ventricular assist. That's the last stop before a heart transplant, or the bus goes over the cliff. I hope I don't have to go there. My brother used to be a crabber in Alaska. He's about 47. His cardio got him beached, and now he owns a marina. Lots of history in my family on both sides. I happened to be born with a defective valve that wasn't diagnosed until ten years ago. Steve > My brother used to be a crabber in Alaska. He's about 47. His cardio got > him beached, and now he owns a marina. Lots of history in my family on > both sides. I happened to be born with a defective valve that wasn't > diagnosed until ten years ago. > > Steve It seems that there are a lot of folks on here with mechanical valves. I got mine (St.Jude) 14 months ago along with 1 bypass. I was 68 yrs old and like Steve, i was diagnosed with a lifelong defective valve. All of a sudden i realized what caused a lot of problems over the years. What gets me is that i have had chest pains and dizzy spells and the doctors missed the cause. I think i feel well enough to start servicing my PU truck again soon. The problem that i have with filters is that even though i install according to factory specs i find them seized up when i go to remove them and then i need a wrench or in the past, a long screw driver driven through the filter. What a mess!!!! Good luck to all. Gil snipped > Mine is supposed to be 2.5 - 3.0. Been holding good at 30., taking 7.5mg > daily. I go tomorrow for the annual (18 months since the last due to the > new better retirement insurance) echo and stress test. Been feeling a > little poorly lately, and am anxious to get the results. snipped > Steve I know one size doesn't "fit" all and that's why I asked. My cardiologist is unusual in that he is happy with mine being around 2.0, actually he prefers that. When I first got the valve, he had me in the 3.0 range and then weaned me down to my present level. I'm taking tons of drugs, Lipitor, Tricor, Lotrel, plus another blood pressure med I can't find in my head right now. I would imagine he has you on a higher INR because of other problems but it wouldn't hurt to ask him. I feel better down around 2.0 and don't bleed near as much as when I was at 3.0. I got bawled out by the nurses when I changed my dosage on my own. My INR kept coming in at around 1.6/1.7 and I got worried when on ne came back at 1.5. I was on a 2.5,2.5,2.5,5,2.5,2.5,5 schedule. I figured out what the average daily dose was and increased it to 2.5,2.5,5. Nurse checked my chart at checkup time and said I was doing fine, my INR was 2.0. Then I told her I'd changed my dosage, she went bananas. Went charging out to get another nurse and they read me the riot act. Doc came in, looked at my chart and while the nurses were there at the door said, what ever you're doing is working, keep it up <g>. I wouldn't recommend anyone else do the same, I'm just so stable on the INR reading and have been for 12 years. Early on I watched some Coumadin boards, bunch of folk had bought the finger stick device and found fault with the Doctor keeping them at 2.5 to 3.0. Some of them were self dosing and raising their INR close to 5.0. I quit reading after that. Hugh > There may be a need >> for some folks to use a wrench in this case (arthritis, for instance) but [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Steve You're right Steve, Giving advice is not risk free. On the other hand, if we're willing to be wrong, we can often learn a lot. That's what keeps folks like you and me coming back here for more! Peace Brother, Scout This is the filter wrench that I have been using in my private shop for years. There is nothing it doesn't fit and it is real easy to slack it off, scooch it back and get and other bite. I also have the cup kind, but they only work for one filter by one supplier. I also have the two of the KD steel band kind, but they have not been as successful as the Leslie strap. Matt > This one will work on almost any filter. I must reiterate that if you need > a wrench, it was put on too tight. > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000I0XYYG/sz-tool-20/ref=nosim |
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