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I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. Only thing I can think of is a viscosity sensor. Weird. Steve OR it was out of oil.  SignatureSteve Barker >I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve > OR it was out of oil. Believe me, I took a lot of used oil to Checker. And the stick said full before I changed it. Steve >> OR it was out of oil. > > Believe me, I took a lot of used oil to Checker. And the stick said full > before I changed it. > > Steve We are all wondering why the engine light was on in the first place. Check Engine light? >>> OR it was out of oil. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > We are all wondering why the engine light was on in the first place. Check > Engine light? On my Dodge, there's a ecru (that's the fancy name for a light tannish white) colored light that is in the shape of an engine. There are no words with it, only the symbol. It went off at just about exactly 7500 miles. It went off the day after I changed my oil. I did get some error codes from flipping the switches, but haven't been able to find out what they mean. Then the light went out. I'm still wondering, too. I drove it for a good while today, and the light did not come on. Steve It went off at just about exactly 7500 miles. Make that it went ON. I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> contributed: >OR it was out of oil. FWIW, my list of authorities offering credible tips on vehicle issues skips from Bargman to Barley. If you get my drift. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> > contributed: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill And the W section in my round file grows. If you get my drift. and your point is? I've been an ase certified master technician since '79 and have been there, done that twice. Real world experience is worth 10,000 books and theories. It certainly wouldn't have been the first car to come in for an oil change with only a few drops of oil in it. In almost 30 years of professional auto service, I've also seen genius drivers have their cars towed in a total of 12 times because they were out of gas. Believe me, the customer is NOT always right. As for you Will, I've seen some very educated responses out of you, I don't know what I did to piss you off. SignatureSteve Barker >I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> > contributed: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > customer is NOT always right. As for you Will, I've seen some very educated > responses out of you, I don't know what I did to piss you off. You've done two things to piss him off: 1. You exist. 2. You offered a possible answer to somebody's question. I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> contributed: > I don't know what I did to piss you off. Not pissed off. Just noticing you offer a lot of ill-considered advice based on pure guesswork. IMO. Will Sill Don't worry about what people think, they don't do it very often. Not pissed off. Just noticing you offer a lot of ill-considered > advice based on pure guesswork. IMO. > > Will Sill > Don't worry about what people think, they don't do > it very often. In regards to the original post, your suggestion was what? Oh, that's right, there wasn't one. Hank Were you asking me or Will? SignatureSteve Barker In regards to the original post, your suggestion was what? Oh, that's right, there wasn't one. Hank On Dec 9, 1:20pm, "Steve Barker LT" <railphoto...@not.hotmail.com> wrote: > Were you asking me or Will? > > -- > Steve Barker Sorry for any confusion. It was directed towards Sill Hank Not pissed off. Just noticing you offer a lot of ill-considered > advice based on pure guesswork. IMO. > > Will Sill > Don't worry about what people think, they don't do > it very often. In regards to the original post, your suggestion was what? Oh, that's right, there wasn't one. Hank Will's postulations are much too lofty for the common man. Therefore, he reserves them for the proper forum. Like safety meetings at the toilet paper factory. Steve could you quote my so called "ill-considered advice". thanks. SignatureSteve Barker >I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> > contributed: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Don't worry about what people think, they don't do > it very often. >and your point is? I've been an ase certified master technician since '79 >and have been there, done that twice. Real world experience is worth 10,000 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >customer is NOT always right. As for you Will, I've seen some very educated >responses out of you, I don't know what I did to piss you off. And you are still too f.cking dumb to bottom post like everyone else. Thanks for your input. Bottom posting is the most illogical way to do it. And since there is no law, I'll continue to do the right thing. It has nothing to do with being dumb, just makes the most sense. SignatureSteve Barker >>and your point is? I've been an ase certified master technician since >>'79 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And you are still too f.cking dumb to bottom post like everyone else. > Thanks for your input. Bottom posting is the most illogical way to do it. > And since there is no law, I'll continue to do the right thing. It has > nothing to do with being dumb, just makes the most sense. What an idiot. SignatureFrank Tabor >> Thanks for your input. Bottom posting is the most illogical way to do >> it. And since there is no law, I'll continue to do the right thing. It >> has nothing to do with being dumb, just makes the most sense. > > What an idiot. It's just his way of TROLLing... <EG> SignatureQuotations from Tom Gorrell: "A wing nut without a left or right is just a nut. Which best describes me" "I'm sorry about the erratic weather and must admit it's been caused by the pinko commie Clinton & Reno supporters." "I am hiding nothing, other than the fact that I'm homosexual." Quotation from the Graphic Queer: "I have always advocated the death of the human being and I see that I was right all along. This earth will be so much better off once we are no longer part of the mix." Well Frank, Some of us disagree. Some of us that have been on the usenet for multple decades (like back when it was the newsgroups of DARPANET). Good news readers (not Outlook) have multple panels, one is the directory, group index and the last is the message. When we highlight a subject line in the index, the message is displayed in (Ta-Daaa) the Message Window. It starts at (go ahead guess........) The TOP of the new message. Those of us running good news readers (as described above) can read all the new entries done by top poster without having to go to the message window and scoll down and down and sreach for the new content. Sorry about being an (MS)idiot Frank Name withheld to prevent future flame wars. >>Thanks for your input. Bottom posting is the most illogical way to do it. >>And since there is no law, I'll continue to do the right thing. It has >>nothing to do with being dumb, just makes the most sense. > > What an idiot. It works that way in the outlook reader also. I have no problems whatsoever with the outlook news reader. I especially enjoy the one click viewing of pictures in the binary groups. (train pictures) SignatureSteve Barker > Well Frank, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> What an idiot. I see where "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> contributed: >Thanks for your input. Bottom posting is the most illogical way to do it. >And since there is no law, I'll continue to do the right thing. It has >nothing to do with being dumb, just makes the most sense. There is also no law saying I must view your verbiage. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill NOT everybody bottom posts. personally I am not a bottom feeder. mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:23:41 -0600, "Steve Barker LT" <railphotonut@not.hotmail.com> wrote: >and your point is? I've been an ase certified master technician since '79 >and have been there, done that twice. Real world experience is worth 10,000 >books and theories. It certainly wouldn't have been the first car to come >in for an oil change with only a few drops of oil in it. In almost 30 years >of professional auto service, I've also seen genius drivers have their cars >towed in a total of 12 times because they were out of gas. Believe me, the >customer is NOT always right. As for you Will, I've seen some very educated >responses out of you, I don't know what I did to piss you off. And you are still too f.cking dumb to bottom post like everyone else. "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in news:nuHeh.2230$GB1.1022 @tornado.texas.rr.com: > NOT everybody bottom posts. > personally I am not a bottom feeder. Only the "Bottom Feeders" top-post! <EG> SignatureQuotations from Tom Gorrell: "A wing nut without a left or right is just a nut. Which best describes me" "I'm sorry about the erratic weather and must admit it's been caused by the pinko commie Clinton & Reno supporters." "I am hiding nothing, other than the fact that I'm homosexual." Quotation from the Graphic Queer: "I have always advocated the death of the human being and I see that I was right all along. This earth will be so much better off once we are no longer part of the mix." > I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve There can be many reasons why the light went out that had nothing to do with the oil. The list is not limited to oil quanity, or viscosity and could be nothing more than a loose gas cap among many other things. Hank > I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. > Only thing I can think of is a viscosity sensor. > Weird. I doubt it. More likely coincidence; for some types of codes, the light is supposed to clear after a certain amount of time or on-off cycles. :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. : : Only thing I can think of is a viscosity sensor. Of course either RTFM or calling a dealer would be totally out of the question, right? > :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. > : > : Only thing I can think of is a viscosity sensor. > > Of course either RTFM or calling a dealer would be totally out of the > question, right? Well, I did read the manual. As vague as it can be, other than to tell you that this is a job for a factory trained technician under sterile conditions. It does not even tell you how to manipulate the controls (which I learned from others here) so as to get your own error codes. They don't want the unwashed rabble messing with their own trucks. As for your suggestion to call the dealer, thanks for the hearty laugh. Yeah, I'll just call the dealer, and they will gladly put a mechanic on the phone that will listen to my problems and diagnose it free over the phone. I've done that with my hydraulic jacks on my motorhome, but as yet to find a automobile dealer who is willing to do it. Perhaps you have some numbers? Thanks again. That's too funny. Steve >> :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >> : [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Steve Get the Service Manual CD - it's the same book that the guys in the shop use. The paper version costs more, takes up more space, and you can't copy it to the hard drive of your laptop to have it available when you're out RVing! <G> >Get the Service Manual CD - it's the same book that the guys in the shop >use. I have the parts manual for my '79 BMW motorcycle and for my two Volvos on CD, but haven't seen one for the '89-90 Ford E33 chassis. You have a source? Even Helm doesn't list it. >The paper version costs more, takes up more space, and you can't copy it to >the hard drive of your laptop to have it available when you're out RVing! ><G> No Kidding! You should see the official Helm repair manual for my '83 4wd Blazer, printed on onionskin paper! Makes the phone book look like Cliff Notes! ;-) From Randy & Val 1990 30' Rexhal Airex : > :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. : > : [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : I learned from others here) so as to get your own error codes. They don't : want the unwashed rabble messing with their own trucks. : As for your suggestion to call the dealer, thanks for the hearty laugh. : Yeah, I'll just call the dealer, and they will gladly put a mechanic on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : Thanks again. That's too funny. In one of your previous posts on this subject, I believe you said this was an '06 Dodge truck. I'm assuming, unless you have put a ton of miles on it, that it is still under warranty. What I meant by reading the manual, was to check the scheduled maintenance section, and see what, if anything, shows at 7500 miles. Maybe it's just oil and filter change, which is why the light went out after you performed that service. But there could be other inspections that are required to be at least noted for warranty purposes. You can do your own servicing and not void the warranty, but you need perform all the required services and/or inspections and keep a log and receipts. It sounds like you still don't know for sure just why the light came on, or went out. If it were me, I'd want to know for sure, and would be contacting the dealer. Glad I gave you a good laugh, but I guess it's been a while since you've dealt with a dealer service dept. They have service advisors that you can most definitely get answers from over the phone. Just did it three weeks ago when I had an icon light up on the dash of my new Sequoia, that I wasn't familiar with and didn't feel like searching through the manual. Called the dealer and talked to a service advisor. He asked if I had just put on snow tires and rims, which I had. Turns out it's a tire PSI indicator that came on because the snow tire rims don't have the indicator valve stems. Told me to just ignore the light, and check PSI occasionally, which I do anyway. > : > :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. > : > : [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > me > to just ignore the light, and check PSI occasionally, which I do anyway. Thank you. Maybe I need to get out more. Steve >:I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >: >: Only thing I can think of is a viscosity sensor. > >Of course either RTFM or calling a dealer would be totally out of the >question, right? Yeah, the truck is brand spanking new, with less than 10,000 miles and he's too f.cking stupid to even drive it by the dealer and ask why the light might be on. It's under warranty, after all. But that's what happens when you have an employee smack you in the back of the head with a 2x4. >> :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >> : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > But that's what happens when you have an employee smack you in the > back of the head with a 2x4. Perhaps someone should start a new newsgroup alt.rv much ado.about.nothing or fight. Good grief. All these folks taking offense must not be gettin any. Is the only thing I can figure. > Perhaps someone should start a new newsgroup alt.rv much > ado.about.nothing or fight. > Good grief. All these folks taking offense must not be gettin any. Is > the only thing I can figure. If you think that THIS is contentious then you've led an extremely sheltered existance... Pay a visit to misc.survivalism before complaining... >>> :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >>> : [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Good grief. All these folks taking offense must not be gettin any. Is the > only thing I can figure. Nah, John. I've just been testy lately. And, I've perhaps grown a little too skeptical. I did read the manual, but it really doesn't provide a lot of information. That's the Owner's Manual that comes with the truck, and not any in depth shop manual. And I should have called the dealer and asked to talk to someone, and probably, they would have hooked me up. I sure know the salesman I got was a jewel, and could have started there. In this world of grab what you can, and with current mentalities as they are, perhaps I am not giving the good people a chance. Thanks for shining a light on a dark spot of mine. Steve >>>> :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >>>> : [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Steve I wasn't targeting you or anyone in particular just general. You asked a good and legitimate question. I thought I knew the answer but wasn't sure and watched the thread for the right answer. All of a sudden everybody is attacking everybody else's intelligence etc. I sometime feel like I got to get the last word in and am the foremost authority on everything but I've learned different. My wife is the one that's always right. I frequent the other group too but am leary of expressing an opinion or responding, including the OT posts, as I'm bound to be chastised or my intelligence correctly stated for me. Don't cross their political lines. All these folks have got to be great people, even though I haven't met them, but words on the monitor apparently effects people different than conversation between folks. It is perceived as aninteresting phenomenon by me. I'm guilty too, when responding to some of these people on other groups that post anti Americans junk. I suspect 99% of them are Arab Extremists or whatever. I try not to spend but a few minutes at any one time. I wonder sometimes if some of the posters are into keyboard s&m. I'm really getting tired of hearing all these opinions about Cousin Will. If you want the REAL TRUTH, you'll check out the links below for an insider's viewpoint. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.outdoors.rv-travel/browse_thread/thread/f7e28 874254accc1?tvc=2&q=WILL+SILL http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rv/browse_frm/thread/224d77f04217d9ba/5ab56d0 e0c24629d?lnk=gst&q=kcb559&rnum=3#5ab56d0e0c24629d http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rv/browse_frm/thread/9b8882ee75dd45cf/9ae3342 831ef554c?lnk=gst&q=kcb559&rnum=2#9ae3342831ef554c http://groups.google.com/group/rec.outdoors.rv-travel/browse_frm/thread/507de2d1 0c1253f5/fa8000b7bcc7d974?lnk=gst&q=will+sill&rnum=4#fa8000b7bcc7d974 You're welcome... -Hiram Sill >>>>> :I changed my oil, and the engine light went out. >>>>> : [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > I try not to spend but a few minutes at any one time. I wonder sometimes > if some of the posters are into keyboard s&m. ................. late night 2:54AM PST musings ............ insomnia and wake up to take a pain pill time ......... I often wonder about people, too. Bottom line, is that there are a lot of good people in the world. I just think they don't hang around the Internet in any great numbers. They are too positive and busy to keep rambling on about Bush and Iraq and whatever the topic du jour is, and then dissecting it into minute details, and explaining in painful detail why their view is the best and only one. They live their happy productive lives, and don't bother coming into a minefield of dogshit for their daily entertainment fix. This thread is an example. A simple thing. My light came on. I changed my oil. It went off. I scratched my head and wondered why. But the resident wackos seize the opportunity to jump up on their soap boxes stacked three high and spew. Some newsgroups are totally dominated by resident wackos, and those truly seeking information only bop in and out long enough to get it, or after a time get frustrated and leave for good. I know better than this. I know better than to ask idiots for opinions, yet I still do it, hoping someone will come up with a clear lucid answer, and yet when they do, I jump on them for being simplistic and Pollyannish. Go figger. But then, what can be expected from people who sit at their computers at 3AM looking at the warm glow as if it were the primeval fire? Bottom line, 5% helpful people, 50% bullshit, and 45% nutcases with a keyboard. Same as real life.......................... Muse off. Going off to try to get some sleep. Steve > I know better than this. I know better than to ask idiots for opinions, > yet I still do it, hoping someone will come up with a clear lucid > answer, and yet when they do, I jump on them for being simplistic and > Pollyannish. So you're Human! <G> As to the light vs. oil change, consider this: when you remove the cap from the fuel filler neck - whether you add any fuel or not - the ECM senses this and the in-cab overhead display will change. Why should the change in actual oil pressure [the dash gauge is a "feel-good" analogue of an idiot light] NOT be sensed by the ECM and, in turn, extinguish the "engine" light? FCOL - Spend the $89 and get the Service Manual DVD/CD! Even if you don't elect to do some of the repairs yourself, you will be better able to decide WHICH ones to relegate to the shop based upon the availability of parts, specialized tools, ca$h, and/or time. <G> >> I know better than this. I know better than to ask idiots for opinions, >> yet I still do it, hoping someone will come up with a clear lucid [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > better able to decide WHICH ones to relegate to the shop based upon the > availability of parts, specialized tools, ca$h, and/or time. <G> Geez. A code reader. A manual on CD. Christmas is coming. I want a new shotgun. Where does it all end? I guess it doesn't, and when it really DOES, in that last two minutes, all those things you SHOULD have done, or wished you WOULD have done flash by like a parade in double fast forward. "Steve B" <dsrttrvlr@aol.com> wrote in news:tO1fh.160305$4Z1.42758 @newsfe09.phx: >>> I know better than this. I know better than to ask idiots for opinions, >>> yet I still do it, hoping someone will come up with a clear lucid [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > those things you SHOULD have done, or wished you WOULD have done flash by > like a parade in double fast forward. The Service Manual is a whole lot cheaper than a Purdey or a Holland & Holland. <G> > I sometime > feel like I got to get the last word in and am the foremost authority on > everything but I've learned different. My wife is the one that's always > right. Aw crap...is that how that works? I wonder if my wife is right, too. <G> > I frequent the other group too but am leary of expressing an opinion or > responding, including the OT posts, as I'm bound to be chastised or my > intelligence correctly stated for me. Don't cross their political lines. Don't let it bother you. Remember, this is a bunch of people who mostly don't know eachother beyond disembodied text. What do you have to lose by posting polite, well written, pleasant, informative or fun replies? So somebody is a jerk (and there's really a few major offenders who carry an attitude of authority but aren't really as respected as they like to think they are)...don't worry about the jerks. > All these folks have got to be great people, even though I haven't met > them, but words on the monitor apparently effects people different than > conversation between folks. It is perceived as aninteresting I suspect that the "disembodied text / what do you have to lose" idea that I propose above is taken to an extreme by folks who want a place where they can be jerks and not have to suffer any consequence. > phenomenon by me. I'm guilty too, when responding to some of these > people on other groups that post anti Americans junk. I suspect 99% of > them are Arab Extremists or whatever. Careful there, buddy..._that_ is the kind of stuff you should avoid posting, since it could set off a whole flame war that would flood the other group. > I try not to spend but a few minutes at any one time. I wonder sometimes > if some of the posters are into keyboard s&m. That's quite a funny visualization, you know. :) |
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