This season, I am going to prepare my cabin for those times when the outside
water system is frozen, about October to April. I shall use two reserve
tanks of 55 gallon plastic, a small electric water heater, and 12v. RV water
pump, or two. (I haven't decided if I can use one pump for both the hot and
cold water, or need one for each side.)
My question is: What size and type of 110v. AC to 12v. DC converter would I
need? Would that depend on the amperage ratings of the pumps? Do I need to
get anything special, or can I just use the common transformer things that
come on printers, etc, as long as they are 12v. rated and have adequate
amperage? Or should I bite the bullet, and buy a good model? Or should I
even mess with the conversion and buy 110 v. pump(s)?
These will see only sporadic use during the winter season when we decide to
go up to the cabin. The inside of the cabin reaches temps of 15 deg. F.
during the winter, and the systems, of course, would be drained upon leaving
each time.
And one last question: Do all the pumps need to be mounted with the motors
horizontal, or could I mount them with the motor vertical, and the pumping
mechanism downward to assist bleeding? Or is there a low point bleeder on
some/most models?
Advice and pointers from anyone who has done anything like this would be
appreciated. I know this is going to be a Tinker Toy do it as you go
project, but I would like to start with the right major components. I will
probably use FloJet pumps. If I have the major components right, the piping
will be the easy part.
Steve.
Hustlin' Hank - 22 Dec 2006 22:57 GMT
> This season, I am going to prepare my cabin for those times when the outside
> water system is frozen, about October to April. I shall use two reserve
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> Steve.
I would like to give you some pointers, but you are lacking a lot of
needed info.
Some info lacking is:
How is the 55 gal. drums being filled?
Are you tapping into a piping system that is already there?
How are you heating the water for hot water?
Do you have 110volt already there or are you using a
generator/inverter?
Do you have to draft the water or is the pump being supplied by
gravity? IF drafting, how high do you need to pull the water?
Do you need a self-priming pump?
See! So many questions and so little info.
Hank
Kerry - 23 Dec 2006 02:42 GMT
> This season, I am going to prepare my cabin for those times when the
> outside water system is frozen, about October to April. I shall use two
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> Steve.
Sounds like you have 110V so i would think that would be best. However if
12V is the way you want to go i would have a 12V marine storage battery and
a cheap car battery charger. Those pumps draw several amps so it would
require quite a 110 to 12V converter. An old car battery with some life
left in it and a cheapy charger might be less.
Have you considered a small sump pump (110V) or even a bilge pump (12V) ?
They may work well enough for you and are fairly cheap.
Ron Recer - 23 Dec 2006 15:44 GMT
>> This season, I am going to prepare my cabin for those times when the
>> outside water system is frozen, about October to April. I shall use two
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> Have you considered a small sump pump (110V) or even a bilge pump (12V) ?
> They may work well enough for you and are fairly cheap.
Power supplies (120v ac to 13.8v dc) are readily available for loads of 30
amps and beyond. Why mess with a battery and charger for a Permanente
connection to 120v ac.
Ron
Kerry - 23 Dec 2006 22:08 GMT
>>> This season, I am going to prepare my cabin for those times when the
>>> outside water system is frozen, about October to April. I shall use two
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> Ron
Price and flexability are my reasons. Some of those 10 amp ones are pretty
pricey...especially if you get a voltage regulated one...something he would
not need in this situation. Likely a used car battery can be had cheap and
the cheapest battery charger will keep it up to par on trickle. Still don't
know why a small sump pump wouldn't work since it sounds like he has 110 AC
available. Other than having to switch it on when needed and off when not.