Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / February 2007
COME OVER TO THE GOOD RV GROUP!
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William Boyd II - 04 Feb 2007 09:31 GMT I'd like to encourage all of you members of alt.rv to come on over and join rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
It's a great group with a lot of interesting posts and there's no moderation so you can post whatever you want.
I've checked out alt.rv and found it just wasn't as informative or interesting a group as the one I'm in. So think about it and come on over.
BILL P.
Just Me & DOG
Matt Colie - 04 Feb 2007 13:12 GMT Bill, I just abandon r.o.rt-t because the good information was buried in the political BS and incessant name calling. I encourage people to look at it, but don't expect and answer to a question without being insulted and demeaned. Matt Colie
> I'd like to encourage all of you members of alt.rv to come on over and > join rec.outdoors.rv-travel. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > & > DOG
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Will Sill - 04 Feb 2007 13:27 GMT I see where Matt Colie <mattcolie@nospam.net> contributed:
> I just abandon r.o.rt-t because the good information was buried in the >political BS and incessant name calling. >I encourage people to look at it, but don't expect and answer to a >question without being insulted and demeaned. >Matt Colie Despite your good comments on numerous _OT_ posts, you have established yourself as a moron unworthy of help. You didn't ASK rv-related questions - you acted like another nitwit nanny.
You absolutely DESERVED to be insulted with your last RORT post - and apparently bailed out before even reading the flurry of replies urging you to ask an rv question instead of whining about not getting answers!
Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Matt Colie - 04 Feb 2007 15:41 GMT Will,
This is exactly what I mean. The practical matter is, I was at the keyboard in the process of asking for clarification on a point in a discussion and another writer did post almost exactly the question I was framing to post. He was summarily insulted. He was not a regular writer and he did not deserve what he got. If his question ever was actually answered, I never found it because the tread got lost in the flame war.
I have not looked back because I killed the subscription at that time.
Rort has the potential to be a wonderful and valuable asset. There have been some interesting discussions and I did learn some things of value there, but I can live without the repeat of the main stream medium(sic) line and the constant political BS that has no bearing on what the group is all about.
There are other groups that I still write to regularly, but there are also others I had abandon for the same reason.
I am old, I get tired of fighting everything.
Peace be with you, Matt
> I see where Matt Colie <mattcolie@nospam.net> contributed: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
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Old & in the way.... - 04 Feb 2007 16:29 GMT > This is exactly what I mean. .......another writer did post almost > exactly the question I was framing to post. He was summarily insulted. > He was not a regular writer and he did not deserve what he got. If his > question ever was actually answered, I never found it because the tread > got lost in the flame war.
> There are other groups that I still write to regularly, but there are also > others I had abandon for the same reason. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Peace be with you, > Matt I too am old and tired. I have learned the on the net there are rarely manners, no holding back of any thought. A very child like atmosphere in too many groups that very quickly turn hostile. But then that is what we see going on in the world at large I suppose.
I rarely post anything and read very judicially. It's sad how this net thing with all its promise of socialization has become mean and petty. Good luck to you Matt, you are right that there are a few places where the golden rule is practiced.
brian
RichA - 04 Feb 2007 19:05 GMT >Will, > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> Will Sill >> The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Hi Matt, You asked exactly 0, that's zero, nada, none RV related questions on the other RV news group. Yet you joined in many of the OT posts. Then you said you abandoned the news group because their were not enough ON Topic posts. You may be old but you come across as hypocrite so you don't seem to have learned anything with age.
You also have not been around long enough to know that the OP of this thread is not who they are pretending to be. This is some jerk who has it in for William Boyd and has been following him around and is now using his name to try and stir up trouble. He to is complaining of OT posts and in the last week or so has made more OT and rude and degrading and useless posts then anyone he is complaining about.
Your best bet is to go to some moderated RV group and become one of the yes men of the moderator there you won't have to knock any of these news groups, use them to post OT and then complain the group is OT.
Take care and Happy Campin...
 Signature RichA "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Will Sill - 04 Feb 2007 19:34 GMT I see where RichA <richatpa*nospam*@epix.net> contributed re Matt Colie's whine:
>Hi Matt, > You asked exactly 0, that's zero, nada, none RV related questions on >the other RV news group. Yet you joined in many of the OT posts. Then >you said you abandoned the news group because their were not enough ON >Topic posts. You may be old but you come across as hypocrite so you >don't seem to have learned anything with age. Not only that, but if his performance here is the same, he can expect the same responses.
I'm reminded of the whiny shopper who asked the real estate salesperson what kind of neighbors were around the offered property. The agent asked: "What kind do you have now?" and when told they were nosy, noisy and annoying replied: "They'll be pretty much the same everywhere you go."
People who ask intelligent, on-topic questions USUALLY get help. Those who waste keystrokes arguing and bitching will attract plenty of unwanted responses.
Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
William Boyd II - 05 Feb 2007 09:10 GMT > I see where RichA <richatpa*nosp...@epix.net> contributed re Matt > Colie's whine: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill ________________________________________________
Sounds like no matter where a person posts, there's always trouble and discord. Over on the other group a guy is constantly attacking me for posting stories and jokes.
I do agree with what some have said about getting negative, flaming responses from some of the "old guard." One of the biggest offenders is WILL SILL and he has been for years. There are probably hundreds of posts criticizing him for his negativity and simple grouchiness in responding to anyone. He must really think he's something special but the only "special" tag I can think of for him is "special ed."
BILL P
Just The DOG And Me
"Why can't we all get along?"
The Moderate Moderator - 08 Feb 2007 11:44 GMT ...Those who waste keystrokes arguing and bitching will attract plenty of unwanted responses.
Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
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AND THAT, WILL SILL, IS EXACTLY WHY YOU ATTRACT SO MUCH NEGATIVITY AND HAVE SO MUCH HATRED HEAPED UPON YOU. YOU ARE THE KING OF ARGUING AND BITCHING SO SHUT THE f.ck UP YOU AGING OLD HYPOCRITE. YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE LEFT TO SAY IN YOUR FADED, USELESS LIFE ON THE HILL.
EVERYONE IS PROBABLY AS SICK OF YOU AND YOUR "OFFERINGS" (more like bird droppings) AS THEY ARE OF MY POSTS BUT AT LEAST I MAKE NO PRETENSE AT BEING REAL SO THE HYPOCRITE LABEL WILL NEVER FIT HERE LIKE IT DOES ON YOU.
SO DO USENET AND THE WORLD A FAVOR WILL. JUST STAY AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER, EAT YOUR PABLUM AND SIT ON THE COUCH IN FRONT OF THE TV AND DROOL YOUR LIFE AWAY IN ANONYMITY.
-TMM
Jim Redelfs - 08 Feb 2007 13:33 GMT Well, waddya know? We have a new troll. ...and a particularly clueless one at that.
First he crudely quotes a regular contributor (edited for clarity):
>> ...Those who waste keystrokes arguing and bitching will >> attract plenty of unwanted responses. Then, with his CapsLock key down, shouts the following blatherings, confirming what he quoted above:
> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > AND THAT...IS EXACTLY WHY YOU ATTRACT SO MUCH NEGATIVITY AND > HAVE SO MUCH HATRED HEAPED UPON YOU. YOU ARE THE KING OF ARGUING AND > BITCHING SO SHUT THE F..K UP One would think that, with over 55 thousand newsgroups on usenet, not to mention the myriad of others added by Google Groups, sad losers like this would find one where they could legitimately enjoy themselves and participate like a normal, erect-walking person. Apparently, one would be wrong in this case.
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RAM³ - 09 Feb 2007 00:56 GMT > Well, waddya know? We have a new troll. ...and a particularly clueless > one [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > this > case. This is the same TROLL as before - he's just morphing his screen name and e-mail address to avoid the filters.
Please don't feed the TROLL.
The Moderate Moderator - 09 Feb 2007 05:15 GMT > > Well, waddya know? We have a new troll. ...and a particularly clueless > > one [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\
PLEASE FEED ME! FEED THE TROLL! HAVE A NICE DAY ALL YOU WILL SILL LOVERS. PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER BE A TROLL AND A SOCK PUPPET THAN TAKE UP FOR THAT CLOWN. YOU GUYS ARE BLIND AND SICK! GAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG......
Frank Tabor - 04 Feb 2007 14:38 GMT > Bill, > I just abandon r.o.rt-t because the good information was buried in the > political BS and incessant name calling. > I encourage people to look at it, but don't expect and answer to a > question without being insulted and demeaned. > Matt Colie It's not Bill, it's a troll that first posted as Zane Larkin. He posts from level3.net in Seattle on a dial up connection.
 Signature Frank Tabor If two people love each other, there can be no happy end to it. -- Ernest Hemingway
William Boyd II - 05 Feb 2007 09:31 GMT > > Bill, > > I just abandon r.o.rt-t because the good information was buried in the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If two people love each other, there can be no happy end to it. > -- Ernest Hemingway ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Frank Tabor thinks he's the expert on everything and the net nanny to boot. If you want to see how the real Frank Tabor posts, type in Frank Tabor in the "Search This Group" box and then look at the January 22, 2006 posts he made of Fishing and RVing. After you read these and the way he cursed me out and called me names, then you'll see the real hypocrite passing as Mr. Holiness Frank Tabor and part of the reason people are getting fed up with RORT. You're a phony, Frank and most realize that.
BILL P
Just DOG And Me
"Why can't we all get along?"
Tomes - 05 Feb 2007 14:28 GMT [everything snipped]
You see, this is why those of us who left are not there anymore. This is it exactly. We don't have this here. We do not want this here. You folks can throw beer bottles at each other around the campfire, and that is fine. It is just that the campfire is over there, not here.
Tomes (who unsubscribed from RORT some time ago)
RAM³ - 05 Feb 2007 15:45 GMT > [everything snipped] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tomes (who unsubscribed from RORT some time ago) Correction: We *haven't* had this here.
Unfortunately, TROLLS keep on looking for new groups to infest.
The only available counter to TROLLS such as the one that started this thread is to totally ignore them.
Please don't feed the TROLLS.
RichA - 05 Feb 2007 17:42 GMT >[everything snipped] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Tomes (who unsubscribed from RORT some time ago) Hi, So why do you respond to this? Best if you just kept quiet. The turkey will go away when the corn is all gone. Besides that you can't tell folks where they can or cannot post. If you do that you are defeating yourself. You don't have "this" here because the issue is not controversial enough. Best you can do is ignore what you don't like. Most folks who post on RORT post here too. Get a good tire pressure post going and see what happens :)
Take care and Happy Campin...
 Signature RichA "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
Tomes - 06 Feb 2007 03:11 GMT >>[everything snipped] >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Most folks who post on RORT post here too. Get a good tire pressure > post going and see what happens :) I agree with what both you and RAM note.
Dave and Trudy - 06 Feb 2007 09:39 GMT > Hi, > So why do you respond to this? Best if you just kept quiet. The [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Take care and Happy Campin... Hey Rich, That's a good idea. Go over RORT and start with a good tire pressure post and perhaps all of "them" will be so busy they won't have time to come here and 'troll' ...
DaveD "
Steve B - 06 Feb 2007 17:41 GMT >> Hi, >> So why do you respond to this? Best if you just kept quiet. The [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > DaveD > " Hmmmmmmm
Tire pressure.
Water in brake fluid.
Gas magnets.
Louvered tailgates.
Hensley hitches.
Replaced the Formica in my Airstream. AGAIN!
GCVWRs.
Anyone have any land where I can squat for a few months?
Goober, my dog, needs brain transplant. Can you contribute?
I-10 in Louisiana.
Is 8 over safe?
Which RV is best?
That should be good for several hundred thousand posts.
Oh, wait.............. what? The posts are all STILL going on right now?
Never mind.
Steve
Dean - 07 Feb 2007 22:56 GMT >Hmmmmmmm > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Steve And don't forget -
Can I drive with the refri"D"gerator on? or
I saw a fellow dumping his black water tank and WASN'T wearing a body condom!!! or
Do I hook 2-6V batteries in series or PARRALELL? or
Don't ever consider using a catalytic propane heater, they will KILL your family! or
Gas prices UP. The greedy gas companies are robbing us again!
And my response to them all is -
So much stupidity, so little brains.
Steve B - 08 Feb 2007 02:38 GMT >>Hmmmmmmm >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > So much stupidity, so little brains. And so many of the same people sitting and talking about the same old same old over and over and over and over and over ....................
Oughta call it OFCWUTRV
Old Farts Club Who Used To RV
RichA - 06 Feb 2007 18:45 GMT >> Hi, >> So why do you respond to this? Best if you just kept quiet. The [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >DaveD >" Hi Dave, Ok, shall I tell "them" where you are at too or just that it was your idea? The "Oz" (Mr. Osborne) just posted here not to long ago, so be careful for what you wish for :)
Take care and Happy Campin...
 Signature RichA "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart"
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