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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / March 2007Looking for a trailer with full size queen - no kids
Hello, In the last three years, my wife and I have been to half a dozen RV shows (Northern California and Reno, Nevada) and half a dozen dealers (some a few times). We are looking for a trailer with a walkaround full size queen, or the ability to replace the 75" queen with a 80" queen and still get around the foot of the bed. We've found this eliminates almost anything that tries to have a bedroom. We don't have any kids so a dinette only may be fine - no need for a convertible couch.. If we get nit-picky, we'd like to be able to see the TV from anywhere at the dinette, and have some counter space that does not involve a cover over the stove or the sink. I am 6'4" so I need to be able to stand striaght in the shower and in front of the stove/sink - I can dodge AC units or lights if needed. The most appealing trailer we ever saw was the first year of the Keystone Zeppelin 241. But now they seem like every other 25 footer and a longer bed may not work. And, we were at a dealer today that stopped carrying Zeppelin - they claimed due to leaks in the roof and faulty cabinets. Our tow rig is a 2006 Toyota Tundra 4x4 double cab. 6500# is the rating I recall ( the manual is in the truck and it's snowing now!). This seems to get us to light weight 25 foot units or (hopefully) a 22-23 footer full height unit that is not trying to sleep six. We'd appreciate any suggestions. Lynn and Curtis On Feb 10, 11:02?pm, "CJ" < > The most appealing trailer we ever saw was the first year of the Keystone > > We'd appreciate any suggestions. Lynn and Curtis We had the same problem. In both cases we simply extended the base with plywood as needed and replaced the mattress with a queen sized one. The walk-around space was limited but doable. Learned to make the bed while kneeling on it. Took about 2 minutes or to change the sheets etc about 5 minutes. Slept well. Bob AZ > On Feb 10, 11:02?pm, "CJ" < >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Slept well. > Bob AZ Thanks for the response, What trailer did you coose? Lynn and Curtis > Thanks for the response, > > What trailer did you coose? > > Lynn and Curtis- Actually we had bought an RV each time and since the bed was too small we changed it to a queen size as I indicated. Bob AZ > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Lynn and Curtis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi CJ, Let me start by saying that I am not trying to demean your truck or be a smart a.s. However, right off the top of my head I think you are going to have a hard time finding any TT or 5th that is big enough to pull anything that has a walk around Queen Bed. There are for sure trailers out there that will fit your requirements. But they are of a size and weight too heavy for that Toyota IMHO. I don't know for sure. But it's priobably going to be something that weighs over 8000# or more. What is the "trailer tow rating" on the truck? Do you want a TT or a 5th? Jan Eric Orme "Tell the truth ~ There's less to remember." CJ, Should have mentioned one more thing about beds. Many manufaturerers put in those flimsy crappy short mattreses. Back in 1997 we bought a 29' 5th wheel with one slide.It was a one year old 1996 model and had the crappy short queen mattress. First thing we did was go to a mattress dealer with our 1997 F350 Powerstroke, and buy a VERY NICE double pillowtop regular size Queen Mattress. Took it to the dealer where we bought the 5th to pick up the trailer and had them install the new mattress. Not easy to get it in but it went in. Yes, there was some overhang at the bottom of the platform. But no big deal. Your feet don't weigh much anyhow. In fact, when we bought our current Motorhome, we had that same mattress swaped out into the MH. We still have it. Great Mattress! Again, a struggle to get that bigger stiffer sucker in there but we did it. The MH has a bedroom slide. The bed is side wall direction. Not from the end. When the slide is closed the mattress goes all the way up against a vanity top on the other side. When the slide is out you can walk around the bed. Jan On Feb 10, 10:02?pm, "CJ" <baddo...@charter.net> wrote: > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Lynn and Curtis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi CJ, Let me start by saying that I am not trying to demean your truck or be a smart a.s. However, right off the top of my head I think you are going to have a hard time finding any TT or 5th that is big enough to pull anything that has a walk around Queen Bed. There are for sure trailers out there that will fit your requirements. But they are of a size and weight too heavy for that Toyota IMHO. I don't know for sure. But it's priobably going to be something that weighs over 8000# or more. What is the "trailer tow rating" on the truck? Do you want a TT or a 5th? Jan Eric Orme "Tell the truth ~ There's less to remember." Hello, No worries about being a smart a.s - I appreciate any feedback. We had a tired 1990 Chevy 350 4X4, shopped most brands last February. We chose the Toyota because we could take out the 2/3 bench so the mutt can ride inside (we live at 7600 feet in the Sierra so it's a bit cold for a dog to ride in the bed a lot of the year) - most of the others we looked at did not have the flat floor the dog needed. We've seen a lot of trailers with a walk around queen under 6500#, but there's always something (can't stand in the shower, AC unit right in front of the sink/stove, solid wall at the foot of the bed so no way to extend to 80"). The tow rating is 6500# but we are already at a disavantage starting at 7600 feet (less oxygen, less horsepower) so we don't want to push the envelope too hard. Looking for a travel trailer - we actually use the truck bed too often for a fifth wheel mount (remodelling our house, dump run every other weekend, lumber runs average once a week). Thanks for the response. Lynn and Curtis By the way - I love your sig. I've had too many friends who like to "work" everything, and I always told them the truth is easy to remember. Most of them have failed at whatever they tried to do. Keystone Springdale 245FBL. Ours is a 2001- great floor plan for empty-nesters, and only 4000 lbs dry. Don't plan on sleeping any regular height guests on the jacknife sofa, though. The sofa is a kids-only sleeper. A bit more room on the dinette, but still on the smallish size. As for the walk-around queen, ours has a piece of plywood under it and a regular length queen mattress. Still plenty of room to walk around it. The regular TV shelf at the foot of the bed stays folded now that I've installed a flat-screen high def LCD on the wall between the dinette and the fridge. You can see it from sofa, dinette, and bed. http://keystone-springdale.com/?page=specs&year=2001 Flooplan doesn't show up for that year, but the 2004 is there- the 245FBL 's are all identical flooplan regardless of year. Here's the link- http://keystone-springdale.com/index.html?page=detail&model=245FBL&year=2004 > Keystone Springdale 245FBL. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://keystone-springdale.com/?page=specs&year=2001 > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the foot of the bed. We've found this eliminates almost anything that tries > to have a bedroom. SunnyBrook! Lon >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Lon Don't think SunnyBrook makes anything he can pull with the Tacoma rated at 6500 lbs. Even in a TT. Take care and Happy Campin...  SignatureRichA "We Get Too Soon Olde and Too Late Smart" >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lon Don't know what Sunnybrook you are talking about to meet his demands. But they won't even say what size their beds are, I have found that is a trait of those that only have the 75" queen. They will have to get a more formidable tow vehicle before finding a rig that meets their specs, unless they special order a rig. http://www.sunnybrookrv.com/sunsetcreek/specifications.php BILL P. & DOG SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Don't know what Sunnybrook you are talking about to meet his demands. > But they won't even > say what size their beds are, I have found that is a trait of those that > only have the 75" queen. I posted what I posted because SunnyBrook doesn't cheat their customers by calling a midget bed a "queen". Argue all you wish, but bring proof. Maybe things have changed. Lon > Sunnybrook...won't even say what size their beds are I concur. > I have found that is a trait of those that only have the 75" queen. That doesn't surprise me. On those RARE floorplans with a full-size (80-inch long) queen bed, that specification is prominently listed. I still like Sunnybrook, though, and am strongly considering one for my next rig. <http://www.sunnybrookrv.com/index.php> Signature:) JR > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lynn and Curtis Airstream travel trailer. http://www.airstream.com >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://www.airstream.com They only show the 75" Q beds. >>> Hello, >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > They only show the 75" Q beds. ok step up to a Provost? 1/2 Mil for starts. Michelle >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Airstream travel trailer. > http://www.airstream.com Hello, Unfortunately, in addition to the 75" queen, the walkaround models are too heavy and they have thew worst bathrooms for a tall person. I have to sit in the shower and my knees knock the door open sitting on the toilet. Lynn and Curtis > We are looking for a trailer with a walkaround full size queen, or > the ability to replace the 75" queen with a 80" queen and still get > around the foot of the bed. This very criteria, along with thermopane (dual-pane) windows, has been on the top of my list for a long time. I have since discovered that, with the exception of all but a small handful of the most expensive, top-of-the-line rigs, all are factory-equipped with the short mattress. This is a CROCK! As was mentioned by OPs, the factory-supplied mattress, in addition to being a SHORT length, is often of poor quality. This was my experience when I purchased my current travel trailer. Before towing the new camper away from the dealership, I pulled-out the brand new "mattress", still in its plastic sheath, and gave it to the dealer. I then towed to a scale, then to a furniture store where I installed a top-of-the-line Simmons Beautyrest mattress. Of course, the foot of the mattress hung over the bed platform so I had that lengthened to fit. After this upgrade, which added more than a little extra weight to the camper, I have had to prop-up the bed with two poles (wooden dowels) since there wasn't a lift cylinder strong enough to keep the bed in the UP position when using the storage space below. This upgrade made clearance at the foot of the bed extremely tight but it has been WELL worth the reduction. My wife claims she sleeps better on the camper bed than the one in our home. I am only 5'10" but will not tolerate a short mattress. Depending on your needs, you may have to do just what we did with our (then) new camper. Good luck! Signature:) JR 2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT 2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000 > Hello, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Lynn and Curtis What size engine does the Tundra have? Could make a difference on recommendations. SignatureFrank Howell ----------------- www.Newsgroup-Binaries.com - *Completion*Retention*Speed* Access your favorite newsgroups from home or on the road ----------------- >> Hello, >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > What size engine does the Tundra have? Could make a difference on > recommendations. Hello, 4.7L (285 ci) V8, 271 hp @ 5400, 313 ft.lbs torque @ 3400 Manual says 6700# towing capacity for the 4x4 double cab. Online brochure says 6500# on one page, 6800# on another. Lynn and Curtis > The most appealing trailer we ever saw was the first year of the Keystone > Zeppelin 241. But now they seem like every other 25 footer and a longer bed > may not work. We have one and even though I'm 5'10" the bed is too short. And putting a longer mattress in is a problem because of the location of the sofa unless you forget about using it. > And, we were at a dealer today that stopped carrying > Zeppelin - they claimed due to leaks in the roof and faulty cabinets. Hmmnn... I've had a cabinet door come off in my hand... but no leaks yet (touch wood). > We'd appreciate any suggestions. We were seriously looking at a Hi-Lo or Trailmanor hard-sided pop-ups before we opted for the Zeppelin...? Easy to tow and easy to pop up and down. Lots of space... David "The Hamster" Malone We have a 36ft Cardinal 5th Wheel that is for sale and it doesn't come with kids. Hello, In the last three years, my wife and I have been to half a dozen RV shows (Northern California and Reno, Nevada) and half a dozen dealers (some a few times). We are looking for a trailer with a walkaround full size queen, or the ability to replace the 75" queen with a 80" queen and still get around the foot of the bed. We've found this eliminates almost anything that tries to have a bedroom. We don't have any kids so a dinette only may be fine - no need for a convertible couch.. If we get nit-picky, we'd like to be able to see the TV from anywhere at the dinette, and have some counter space that does not involve a cover over the stove or the sink. I am 6'4" so I need to be able to stand striaght in the shower and in front of the stove/sink - I can dodge AC units or lights if needed. The most appealing trailer we ever saw was the first year of the Keystone Zeppelin 241. But now they seem like every other 25 footer and a longer bed may not work. And, we were at a dealer today that stopped carrying Zeppelin - they claimed due to leaks in the roof and faulty cabinets. Our tow rig is a 2006 Toyota Tundra 4x4 double cab. 6500# is the rating I recall ( the manual is in the truck and it's snowing now!). This seems to get us to light weight 25 foot units or (hopefully) a 22-23 footer full height unit that is not trying to sleep six. We'd appreciate any suggestions. Lynn and Curtis
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