U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
flashers. I had a friend check all connections and he found that the
rear lights are getting only 10 volts instead of 12. He checked all
connections and everything seems ok. When I took the Club Wagon back
to U-Haul they checked all connections and found no problems either.
However, they believe all the marker lights (I have 14, five in front,
five in rear and two on each side) may be drawing too much voltage
thus reducing voltage to rear lights. They sell a "power booster"
called Trailer Light Power Module, part #13493. The package reads:
"Powers the trailer's stop, turn and tail/running lights directly from
the tow vehicle's battery. Virtually eliminates draw on the vehicle's
taillight circuit."
Does this sound right? Are they just trying to sell me an item I may
not need? The sucker costs $40, plus installation of $50.
Any other solutions? Could I be needing only a heavy-duty flasher?
Thanks for any help
Eddie
Steve B - 08 Mar 2007 04:08 GMT
> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
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> Thanks for any help
> Eddie
A very high percentage of lighting problems I have seen has come down to a
bad ground. Start there. If that ain't it, good luck.
Steve
Eddie - 08 Mar 2007 04:53 GMT
>A very high percentage of lighting problems I have seen has come down to a
>bad ground. Start there. If that ain't it, good luck.
>
>Steve
Thanks Steve. We're gonna double check the ground tomorrow.
Eddie
Will Sill - 08 Mar 2007 13:12 GMT
I see where Eddie <hawaii-50@sbcglobal.net> contributed:
>U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
>Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>not need? The sucker costs $40, plus installation of $50.
>Any other solutions? Could I be needing only a heavy-duty flasher?
Steve is probably right - bad grounds account for the vast majority of
trailer lighting troubles, and if ALL trailer lights are dim, that's
the best guess. Test the idea by connected a jumper cable from
trailer frame to your truck frame.
You might well be pulling more current that the tail light circuit can
handle, though. I can't tell exactly what the "Trailer Light Power
Module, part #13493" is, but you don't need it. Your trailer SHOULD
have a charging line, a fairly heavy wire whose main purpose is
charging the trailer battery. If so, all you need is an inexpensive
12v relay and the help of someone who knows enough about dc wiring to
install same. It can be installed in the tow vehicle wiring or the
trailer - either way all it does is use the tail light voltage to pull
in the relay - the current to run the lights comes from the charging
line.
We have found it necessary to do that with several trailers over the
years - usually because the tow vehicle taillight wiring or switch
was overloaded by adding all the trailer lights.
Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Hustlin' Hank - 08 Mar 2007 13:16 GMT
> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Eddie
I agree with the other poster, bad ground, or ground wire isn't large
enough to handle the load. Make sure each light has a "good " ground.
Also check the ground on the tow vehicle to make sure it is of proper
size and is getting a good ground to the battery. The tow vehicle may
have numerous grounds to the battery via the frame. Each connection
must be clean and getting contact.
An easy way to narrow down where the problem is, is to hook your tow
vehicle to another trailer and vice-versa. This should tell you where
to start.
Replacing the flasher will only affect the turn signals and four ways,
not the brake or running lights.
Good Luck,
Hank
Michelle P - 08 Mar 2007 14:02 GMT
> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Eddie
Check the ground first.
Find the problem not patch it with a questionable device.
Michelle P
Paul Johnson - 08 Mar 2007 14:34 GMT
> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> not need? The sucker costs $40, plus installation of $50.
> Any other solutions? Could I be needing only a heavy-duty flasher?
If your Club Wagon didn't have a "tow package" you will need a heavy duty
flasher, but that won't solve your dim lights problem. The Trailer Light
Power Module sounds like a relay setup to me. It's my impression that most
modern vehicles already use a relay to power the lighting circuit. Halogen
headlights draw way too much power to run through a switch. So, every dim
trailer light problem I have ever had was cured by working on the grounds.
Paul Johnson
Paul Flansburg - 08 Mar 2007 19:05 GMT
> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Eddie
Eddie,
I agree with all of the responses, ground issue. I had the same issue
while towing my Maxima behind my motherhome. Here's what I found. It
was definitly a ground issue, but it wasn't a broken or loose wire
causing the problem. On my 7 pin (male) plug I found that the pin for
the gorund had colapsed together. If I looked at my connector, the
male pins are kinda split in half. What ended up happening is that
the split pieces were pushed together. I ended up taking a flat blade
screw driver and seperating the pins a little. This allowed both
peices of the pin to make good contact with the female pin. I did this
to all of the pins and now I have a solid connection and a good
ground. My lights now come on bright. This is now part of my
periodic maintanence. Hope my description is clear and helps.
-paul
Eddie - 10 Mar 2007 04:20 GMT
>Eddie,
>
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>
>-paul
Thanks paul, yes it's clear and here is the latest. My friend found
that when the trailer bulbs (1057) were put in "backwards" that is,
the large pin in first instead of the small pin, the bulb would light
up nice and bright. Of course, that configuration cannot allow the
bulb to stay in the socket. My friend says the taillight wire has to
be reversed. Does this make sense?
Tomorrow he's going to try to reverse the wiring.
The grounds seem to be fine in the van. So the problem is in the
trailer.
Thank you all
Eddie
Eddie - 10 Mar 2007 05:22 GMT
>I agree with all of the responses, ground issue. I had the same issue
>while towing my Maxima behind my motherhome. Here's what I found. It
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>-paul
Thanks paul, yes it's clear and here is the latest. My friend found
that when the trailer bulbs (1057) were put in "backwards" that is,
the large pin in first instead of the small pin, the bulb would light
up nice and bright. Of course, that configuration cannot allow the
bulb to stay in the socket. My friend says the taillight wire has to
be reversed. Does this make sense?
Tomorrow he's going to try to reverse the wiring.
The grounds seem to be fine in the van. So the problem is in the
trailer.
Thank you all
Eddie
JerryD(upstateNY) - 10 Mar 2007 13:22 GMT
My friend says the taillight wire has to be reversed. Does this make
sense?<<<
THAT'S WRONG !!!!
The numbers 1057 mean the bulb is 10 watts for the tail lights and 57 watts
for the brake/stop lights.
Switching the bulb around is just making the higher wattage element light
up.
The 57 watt element makes too much heat to stay on all the time.
The heat will melt the lens and also the brake/stop lights will barely be
detectable.

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Matt Colie - 10 Mar 2007 18:22 GMT
Hey guys=>
First - a 1057 is an old european headlight bulb (if memory serves me
well). It can't be fit in a taillight housing.
Do you maybe mean an 1157 bulb?? (a common dual filament tail/turn
signal bulb)
That still isn't anything like 10/57 watts. It still is not supposed to
be continues duty on the bright side.
I think you have more problems than you have found yet. Nobody said you
could only have one failure with the trailer electrics.
Keep looking for bad connections and most of all bad grounds as they are
easy to create and not that easy to find - particularly if there is more
than just one.
Matt Colie
> My friend says the taillight wire has to be reversed. Does this make
> sense?<<<
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> The heat will melt the lens and also the brake/stop lights will barely be
> detectable.

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Steve Barker - 12 Mar 2007 02:39 GMT
With that many lights, you don't need a "booster" you need heavier wiring.
Also, you'll probably burn up the truck wiring with that many if the truck
is fairly new. You need a constant battery feed to the trailer with a 10ga
wire, then use a relay system to trigger the trailer lights off that feed.

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> U-Haul installed the 7-pin adapter and now my rear lights on my
> Holiday Rambler are dim, including stop light, turn signals and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Eddie
Steve B - 12 Mar 2007 03:13 GMT
> With that many lights, you don't need a "booster" you need heavier wiring.
> Also, you'll probably burn up the truck wiring with that many if the truck
> is fairly new. You need a constant battery feed to the trailer with a
> 10ga wire, then use a relay system to trigger the trailer lights off that
> feed.
On some brands of trucks (like Toyota), you must go buy an adapter that you
have to hot wire to the battery to make a four prong trailer plug work.
Steve