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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / April 2007Dewinterization
How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a lot of space and bother. > How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips > with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti > freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a > lot of space and bother. I drive back north! <g> By going south to winterize I never have to worry about flushig anti freeze out of the system. Ron > How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips with > very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti freeze > flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a lot of > space and bother. Damn! How much water do you drink? I only drink the water that I take with me in separate jugs/bottles. My friends flush their MH's out the first trip to a full hook-up park. I flush mine out here at the house. Then I dump at the park or the Flyin J down the road. That way it sorta cleans the tanks too. Hank <~~~flushes a lot. :-) > How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips > with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti > freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up > a lot of space and bother. Why not use about a gallon of 150 proof rum for the anti-freeze? That way you RVers would have a legitimate excuse for driving the way you do... Wilbur Hubbard >> How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips >> with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Wilbur Hubbard This also explains why you post the B.S. that you do. DaveD >How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips with >very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti freeze >flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a lot of >space and bother. Maybe you are doing something wrong?? Like . . . how much effort does it take to flush out the lines? And if you have anti-freeze anywhere other than the lines, then perhaps you are doing something wrong, ?? Other than the lines, there shouldn't be antifreeze anywhere else in the system, unless you have done something wrong, like failing to bypass the hot water tank during the winterizing procedure. Win, loose or draw, at best you might have to deal with a water filter left installed during the winterizing procedure. Been there, done that; but the very worst we ever experienced was enjoying cherry-flavoured water for a while. >>How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips >>with [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > that; but the very worst we ever experienced was enjoying > cherry-flavoured water for a while. I suspect that the two gallon accumulator has something to do with the lingering antifreeze in the lines. I have tried causing it to cycle a few times and the last time the flavor was very slight. It might have been overlooked except that I am now sensitive to it. Maybe I should install a valve in the accumulator line to disconnect it during winter. Must remember to be sure antifreeze is in it before shutting it off. If you're going to allow the AF in the accumulator, then what'd be the point of the valve?  SignatureSteve Barker > Maybe I should install a valve in the accumulator line to disconnect it > during winter. Must remember to be sure antifreeze is in it before > shutting it off. > If you're going to allow the AF in the accumulator, then what'd be the > point of the valve? The valve would isolate the accumulator from the rest of the plumbing and keep antifreeze from shifting in and out of it. I believe that, being a dead end, the accumulator does not rinse well. I could give up the advantages of the accumulator during winter if I could get better tasting water easier. >> Maybe I should install a valve in the accumulator line to disconnect it >> during winter. Must remember to be sure antifreeze is in it before >> shutting it off. >I suspect that the two gallon accumulator has something to do with the >lingering antifreeze in the lines. I have tried causing it to cycle a few >times and the last time the flavor was very slight. It might have been >overlooked except that I am now sensitive to it. I don't think the accumulator has anything to do with lingering antifreeze. Once the water lines have been been filled with anti-freeze, and pressure released, the accumulator shouldn't contain anything other than air. ?? They don't cause problems on the thousands of other rigs out there. In the Spring. I run water from each tap and the toilet until the water runs clear. After that, I usually drain all of the water from the entire system, and then refill with fresh water. Water tends to be really inexpensive, so starting the season with a fill-drain-refill isn't a big deal. Other than the time I forgot to remove the water filter, we've never experienced a lingering anti-freeze taste. >>I suspect that the two gallon accumulator has something to do with the >>lingering antifreeze in the lines. I have tried causing it to cycle a few [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > anything other than air. ?? They don't cause problems on the > thousands of other rigs out there. I have an idea that it is not the accumulater per se, but rather the line that runs to it. > In the Spring. I run water from each tap and the toilet until the > water runs clear. After that, I usually drain all of the water from > the entire system, and then refill with fresh water. Water tends to be > really inexpensive, so starting the season with a fill-drain-refill > isn't a big deal. I have tried that twice now and while it is better, the water still tastes funny. Maybe three times. What are the odds of the antifreeze getting through the pump and into the fresh water tank? >I have tried that twice now and while it is better, the water still tastes >funny. Maybe three times. > >What are the odds of the antifreeze getting through the pump and into the >fresh water tank? In a world where "anything that might go wrong, will go wrong"! ? The usual plumbing setup is a two-position antifreeze valve. Pos #1: Water is conducted from the water tank to the water pump; Pos #2: Antifreeze is conducted from the antifreeze input-pipe to the water pump; and flow to the water tank is shut off. Are you sure the water heater bypass valve(s) are in the correct position? I see where stan.birch@hotmail.com contributed confusion and is therefore snipped. Here is the Right Answer for winterizing and 'dewinterizing' *most* rigs the right way: DRAIN water tank & water heater BYBASS water heater CONNECT pump inlet via hose to jug of pink stuff (use tee/valve) PUMP AF into pipes 'til it comes outa faucets (and shower, toilet) DUMP holding tanks For more detailed, illustrated winterizing information see Les Doll's Painless Winterizing, at The RVer's Corner, <http://www.rverscorner.com/articles/painless.html>. When "un-winterizing", flush the pipes with water BEFORE placing WH bypass valves back to normal. This will remove virtually all but a few "parts per billion" of the pink stuff. In very mild climates you can get away without winterizing at all. Some get by using compressed air, a few by just draining. But if you want to be fairly sure of NEVER having to fix split plumbing parts, the above system is as easy and foolproof as we know about. Will "A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow Man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money." G. Gordon Liddy > When "un-winterizing", flush the pipes with water BEFORE > placing WH bypass valves back to normal. This will remove virtually > all but a few "parts per billion" of the pink stuff. That is what I have been doing and still there is a lingering taste. It is not much, but I am now very sensitive to it. >>I have tried that twice now and while it is better, the water still tastes >>funny. Maybe three times. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Are you sure the water heater bypass valve(s) are in the correct > position? I may have been turning the antifreeze valve back to the fresh water tank after winterizing to save running the slide and lifting the bed during dewinterizing. This may have been a problem. How to dewinterize? Hook up the hose, turn the fawcetts on. Wait till pink is gone, done. SignatureSteve Barker > How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips > with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti > freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a > lot of space and bother. "Dan Listermann" wrote in message... How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a lot of space and bother.<<<< This is a almost paradox. Dan has a problem that no other person, here, has. It would seem at first, that he is doing something wrong but liberals are never wrong..........SO !! Thee are only 2 possibilities. 1.....The RV is defective. 2.....The water is defective. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > "Dan Listermann" wrote in message... How do you dewinterize? I have found > that it takes at least two [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > 1.....The RV is defective. > 2.....The water is defective. Nice man . . . >Hook up the hose, turn the fawcetts on. Don't you think that's a bit un-Farrah? GB in NC > How to dewinterize? Hook up the hose, turn the fawcetts on. Wait till > pink is gone, done. I'd like to turn Farrah on but I'd have to wait for a long time for the purple bruises from my wife to be gone. ":o) >> How do you dewinterize? I have found that it takes at least two trips >> with very careful dewinterization flushing techniques to get the anti >> freeze flavor out of the system. Drinking from bottled water takes up a >> lot of space and bother. >I'd like to turn Farrah on but I'd have to wait for a long time for the >purple bruises from my wife to be gone. ":o) Actually, I wouldn't. Have you seen her lately? She looks awful. (And seemed drugged or drunk -- or maybe just plain flaky -- when I saw her on Letterman not long ago.) GB in NC It never was that great. SignatureSteve Barker >>I'd like to turn Farrah on but I'd have to wait for a long time for the >>purple bruises from my wife to be gone. ":o) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > GB in NC > It never was that great. Aw, I dunno... The one - and ONLY - poster I ever bought was of Farrah... no, wait... I'm wrong, it was Loni Anderson (WKRP in Cincinnati). Time flies... Signature<sigh> JR >> It never was that great. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Time flies... Here comes more bruises ----- ouch---- >>I'd like to turn Farrah on but I'd have to wait for a long time for the >>purple bruises from my wife to be gone. ":o) > > Actually, I wouldn't. Have you seen her lately? She looks awful. (And > seemed drugged or drunk -- or maybe just plain flaky -- when I saw her > on Letterman not long ago.) Bad boob job too. >>I'd like to turn Farrah on but I'd have to wait for a long time for the >>purple bruises from my wife to be gone. ":o) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > GB in NC I'll just close my eyes and fantasize. I still remember her in that red bathing suit that blond hair around her face lake a halo ahhhhhhh--- ouch---ouch---ouch --- sorry dear just kidding now put down the rolling pin --- ouch---ouch------------ (running like hell) --- ouch---ouch---ouch --- When I drain the system before the pink stuff, I drain the accumulator & then close the isolation valve, just like the HW tank. I also found it easier to get the pink out by using the pump & hose that I injected the pink with. Flushing with city water hookup seemed to take a lot longer. YMMV. > When I drain the system before the pink stuff, I drain the accumulator > & then close the isolation valve, just like the HW tank. I also found > it easier to get the pink out by using the pump & hose that I injected > the pink with. Flushing with city water hookup seemed to take a lot > longer. YMMV. So you have a valve to isolate the accumulator? How does the accumulator hold up to freezing without antifreeze? Theoretically, there should be little water in it and obviously it should be flexible. The fittings could cause problems though. Flushing using the antifreeze injection port looks promising. |
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