The problems I find are:
Inconsistent medical care.
Doing a lot of business over the phone.
Avoiding bad seasonal weather, especially springtime.
Tendency to eat out a bit more - expensive and unhealthy.
Contact with others tend to be in RV parks, would like more diversity.
Accidents or repairs involve what you live in.
Fluctuation of gas prices. This can be mitigated by buying into a gas co-op.
Annoying cyclists would fail to yield and then put foam into the tailpipe.
Being away from the family.
Alan
Dave in Lake Villa - 26 Apr 2007 19:20 GMT
'The problems I find are:
Inconsistent medical care.
Doing a lot of business over the phone.
Avoiding bad seasonal weather, especially springtime.
Tendency to eat out a bit more - expensive and unhealthy.
Contact with others tend to be in RV parks, would like more diversity.
Accidents or repairs involve what you live in.
Fluctuation of gas prices. This can be mitigated by buying into a gas
co-op.
Annoying cyclists would fail to yield and then put foam into the
tailpipe.
Being away from the family.
Alan'
REPLY: Alan, Thanks for the rundown. Are you planning on continuing
being a FullTimer then ? Do the benefits outweight the problems in your
situation ?? Did you sell everything (home, cars, etc...) to go Full
time ? I looked at a new Four Winds Class C. 37' with one slideout
yesterday... and i could see myself in that fulltime. Id imagine with
something that gets 6-10 mpg , you stay at places longer than when
gasoline was cheaper (??) Thanks,
> Did you have some reservation about fulltiming being right for you
> before you entered into it ? Did you have a pretty good idea you
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> fulltiming that you have found ? At this point...would you want to
> continue fulltiming for as long as you are able ?
Good grief! What low aspirations some folks have. "Hey, little Johhny,
what do you want to be when you grow up?" "Uh, I wanna be a full time
RVer." Bwaaaaahahahahhahahaha! Can anybody say, "LOSER?" Why, that's
even worse than living in a single-wide in a mobile home park. Can you
say "trailer park trash?" At least trailer park trash has roots and a
sense of community. RVing full time is the very worst of everything. Can
you say, "VAGRANT?" Yes, sir, vagrants driving around the country in big
pollution machines imposing themselves where they're not wanted. What a
pathetic thing to do at any age!
My advice? Forget about it! Get a real life. Get a job. Stay off the
roads with your obnoxious, pollution-spewing, road-hogging RVs. Leave
the roads to those who use them legitimately, drive responsibly and use
vehicles that get decent miles per gallon. If your vehicle doesn't get
at least 30mpg then you're selfish and irresponsible and you're
contributing to global warming. How selfish and crass can you be?
Shad O'Shay
Mark Jones - 28 Apr 2007 04:50 GMT
> How selfish and crass can you be?
I don't know.
How stupid can you be?
> Did you have some reservation about fulltiming being right for you
> before you entered into it ? Did you have a pretty good idea you were
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> Thank you for any info you wish to share.
When my new hubby, who I actually met on a camping trip in an RV park,
announced that he was going to retire early, we were going to sell the
house and live in a motorhome, I thought he was nuts. My response was a
quick, Jersey-Girl: "yeah right"
When we married he still had an ancient Mini-Winnie (he says 20 ft.; it
felt more like 10 ft.) and every year it was something else needing
repair. I told him if he wanted me to do this crazy thing, I would need
some travel in an RV to help me decide if I could do it. I was NOT going
anywhere in that Winnebago (it was so old it had an avocado green
interior!) Since we needed another motor vehicle, we started to look for
a pick up camper and found one at an RV show. We asked the dealer about
an appropriate truck and bought one.
We loved our 9 foot slide-in. It seemed much more spacious than the
Winnebago and had, for a unit its size, a large and comfortable wet bath.
We traveled in it on extensive vacations, the longest being slightly
over 3 weeks, but I loved it.
He retired a year early in 1995 so we had to wait until 1996 when he
turned 55 to escape burdensome taxes. Coincidentally, I got corporate
downsized early that year so we didn't have much but the tax man to hold
us.
We had been looking at fifth wheels for several years and had shortened
our list to one brand. We went to the factory in the summer of 95 and
sat with the sales manager while we specked it out. Then we ordered it
from the local dealer.
I wanted a fifth wheel. In the early 90's there were no slide outs on
motor homes. I worried about what would happen to my dog if the
motorhome needed to go into the shop. We would not be welcome at many
motels. With a truck and trailer, I could have the road service tow my
home to a campground. (Actually happened once) I loved the residential
feel of a fiver. There was no steering wheel in my living room. The unit
had no speedometer so it didn't depreciate as rapidly as a motorhome.
We sold the house. We sold the furniture. We sold the remaining children
(just kidding) and went off on our adventure. There never was a time
limit. We said we'd do it as long as we wanted to and when we didn't
want to any longer or couldn't do it any longer, we'd get off the road.
With a trailer it is easier to just tie it down in a mobile home or RV
park than it is with a motorized unit that has to keep running to have
any value.
I don't think there were any more or any worse problems fulltiming than
there are or were living in a fixed place. Stuff happens. We used to
joke that with an RV you could take the house to the plumber and save
the $75 house call. We paid no property tax. We chose a state with no
personal income tax as our residency. We didn't spend a lot of money as
we had several membership camping programs that saved us a lot. We
bought these memberships with replaceable dollars while we were both
working.
DH has a good pension and we have medical benefits through the City of
New York (he's a retired teacher) that gave us some coverage for doctors
and full coverage for hospitals wherever we traveled.
Mail was handled by The Escapees RV Club, Inc.'s awesome mail forwarding
service. It's the biggest and the best in the country. We also got much
support and made many friends as Escapees. I wouldn't become a fulltimer
without a membership. Forget the perks. It's about the people.
We stayed on the road for 9 years before we bought a house. Not two
months later, while traveling in our truck and trailer, we hydroplaned
and both were totaled. We were unhurt and thankfully had a place to come
home to. I guess we were lucky that we had a place to go, but other
fulltimers I know managed in rented apartments until the insurance was
sorted out. I guess not having any place to go if you are in a wreck
could be considered a unique problem, but people lose their stick houses
in tornadoes and hurricanes, too.
The reason we got off the road was DH had been given yet another
diagnosis. I was counting our blessings that he still had enough of his
health for us to continue traveling, but the last diagnosis really
scared me. It wasn't something that couldn't be handled with medication,
but I felt that even if Sky-Med would take me home, where the heck *was*
home.
DH would still be fulltiming today.
Sorry this was so long.
J

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Ted Bell / Shad O'Shay - 26 Apr 2007 23:47 GMT
> Sorry this was so long.
Yeah, me too . . .
Shad O'Shay
Dave in Lake Villa - 27 Apr 2007 00:34 GMT
'We chose a state with no personal income tax as our residency.'
REPLY: I enjoyed your story Janet. By the way , which States have no
income tax ??
Good to hear a very positive response to Full Timing . Seeing North
America in a leisurely fashion sound appealing. Id imagine the money
you paid out in gasoline/campgrounds, was offset by the fact that you
didnt have a house to maintain, property taxes to pay, and other
incidentals (?)
William Boyd-II - 27 Apr 2007 06:50 GMT
>'We chose a state with no personal income tax as our residency.'
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With respect to the states that have no state income tax. That may not
be the better way to go, depends on
your status as to taxes. It is easy to understand that every state
requires relatively the same amount of money
to maintain it. Some states have the state income tax, along with
relatively lower taxes elsewhere. If you are a retired state employee
you might get a tax break. Any state that has this, must also provide
the same tax break to a retired federal employee, includes retired
military. If your situation allows you to take advantage of this, then
you would be required to pay out less funds in taxes overall. Some
states that does not have the income tax, have luxury tax, they charge
you on things like an RV or boat, and their fuel tax is much higher. An
example of a better state would be MS. They have the
state income tax and have the tax break for retired state and federal
employees. I would prefer AL. over MS. but I have not checked out their
tax system yet.
The mail system has me wondering what the best actually is, Janet
mentioned Escapees but did not indicate the cost for using it. Medical
requirements have been provided with outstanding results. I spent the
winter down in Janet's local and used the system there, completely
satisfied with it.
As Janet said the tow vehicle and trailer is much better than a MH, my
opinion.

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