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Open offer to Shay O'Shad

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Jonathan King - 29 Apr 2007 04:00 GMT
Shay,

Just to show all RVers are not knuckle draggers, I offer to ride support for
you with my motorhome while you cycle anywhere in the western US for one
week. You can peddle your little butt off and I'll provide you with food,
living quarters and support. I'd like to start somewhere out in a place like
the Great Basin or in Nevada. We'll drive there together in my motorhome and
then you can start pedalling. I'll follow or meet you up ahead. I think the
time spent doing this will show you how RVers are really great people.

Jonathan King
Janet Wilder - 29 Apr 2007 17:23 GMT
> Shay,
>
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>
> Jonathan King

What a nice invitation!

Personally, I'd invite him to Death Valley in the summer and
conveniently develop engine trouble <VBG>

Signature

Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Shad O'Shay - 30 Apr 2007 14:53 GMT
>> Shay,
>>
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> Personally, I'd invite him to Death Valley in the summer and
> conveniently develop engine trouble <VBG>

Love your signature! Ha ha ha!

Shad O'Shay
Todd - 03 May 2007 21:18 GMT
>>> Shay,
>>>
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>
> Shad O'Shay

wasting your time shadster. janet got u killedfiled.

todd
John Blake - 29 Apr 2007 19:54 GMT
> Shay,
>
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>
> Jonathan King

Jonathan, as a real cyclist I would like to say that your offer is "above
and beyond"! In the road biking community it's called "sagging".  I'm not
sure what the term stands for, I've heard several definitions.  Most
organized rides will have "Sag" vehicles, which are used for people who
breakdown or can't finish the ride.  Flats and most minor problems are
considered the responsibility of the bike rider who normally carries patch
kits, extra tubes and emergency tools.

I have ridden about 25,000 miles in the past 5 to 6 years, since our son got
me into riding.  Up until this last year I've been averaging about 5 k per
year.  We shoot for 100 miles a week and that'll keep us in good stead for
conditioning.  It's tough to ride consistently all year in this area of the
country (SW Washington) because of the wet weather in the winter. So most of
our long rides are done in the Summer. I ride with groups on my single bike,
with my wife on our tandem and by myself.

Most road bike riders try to obey the rules of the road.  There are a lot
that fly thru the stops and signals, but that is not the norm.
Unfortunately they create a negative image for the rest of us with the
majority of motorists.  I have very seldom had any problem whatsoever with
motorists.  I live in an area where there is a fair amount of tourism, but I
have never experienced any particular problem with RVers.  I don't know what
O'Shay's problem is, but please don't think that he speaks for most bike
riders.  The few posts of his that I've read leads me to think that he is an
arrogant and rude bike rider.  He isn't the only one, but he is a minority.

My wife and I are going to retire in June/July (as soon as our home sells)
and are going on-the-road fulltime with a 5er.  One of the things that we
are most looking forward to is riding in different parts of the country and
with different bike clubs in other areas.  We have to be careful when we
pick out our fifthwheel since we will be carrying two bikes, one being a
tandem, in the pass-thru storage area.  Pass-thru size is our first
requirement.  This is how serious we are for our riding.

Your offer is a dream come true for bike riders.  You could offer that to
any group of riders when they have a long ride or even an organized century
(100 mile ride), and they would love you!  Having someone at a
pre-determined spot with fresh water and maybe a snack(high carbs) or fruit
would be greatly appreciated.  The organized rides usually have rest stops
with refreshments, but on training rides, you're on your own!  I'm even
hoping to do some of this in late July for the Ragbrai ride,  which is a
week long ride across Iowa.  We have two friends that are going to be in
that ride, and they'd love having some support.

I've already taken up too much bandwidth for a "lurker" and I apologize for
the long rant, but I just wanted to compliment you for your offer.  And just
in case I need to verify my legitimacy to O'Shay, I have two single bikes, a
1984 restored Pinarello and a 2001 Custom Team Pegoretti, with a daVinci
tandem for my DW and me. I'll go head-to-head with him anytime, on the hill
of his choice!

John
Will Sill - 29 Apr 2007 20:10 GMT
I see where "John Blake" <jlblake31@comcast.net> contributed:

> . . .  And just
>in case I need to verify my legitimacy to O'Shay, I have two single bikes, a
>1984 restored Pinarello and a 2001 Custom Team Pegoretti, with a daVinci
>tandem for my DW and me. I'll go head-to-head with him anytime, on the hill
>of his choice!

Not to worry - must of us realize O'Shea represents nobody but his
pitiable self.  No doubt most sports and hobbies have someone like him
in their midst, determined to blindly denigrate everyone who chooses
not to share that person's specific obsession.  There's an ugly but
well deserved epithet that fits Shad O'Shea/Tom Bell perfectly: Bigot.

Will Sill
GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE: "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you
want to make them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
Shad O'Shay - 30 Apr 2007 15:17 GMT
<snip>
> well deserved epithet that fits Shad O'Shea/Tom Bell perfectly: World
> class
> athlete.
>
> Will Sill

You are correct, sir!

Shad O'Shay
Bob V - 30 Apr 2007 06:12 GMT
: Most road bike riders try to obey the rules of the road.  There are a lot
: that fly thru the stops and signals, but that is not the norm.
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:
: John

Great post, John.  Quite a few years ago I was putting in quite of bit of
bicycle road time when I was training for triathlons (did the Ironman,
Hawaii twice), but only about half of the 5k per year you're doing.  You're
absolutely right about there being good cyclists and bad ones.  I never had
any trouble with RV'ers either.  Was only hit once, and that was by some
kids that bumped me off the road "just for the fun of it".  Just so happened
a Deputy came along about five minutes after it happened, and was able to
radio ahead and nap the little punks.

This O'Shay character is nothing but a troll, and should be totally ignored.
If he is a real rider, he is probably the type that rides side by side with
his riding buddies instead of single file.

One comment I would like to make to all RV'ers here, is if you come up on a
cyclist that is clearly staying as far to the right as he/she can, please
don't blow any kind of horn.  There is nothing more they can do, and it's up
to you slow down and pass when safe, since they have just as much right to
the road as you do.  Every time I heard some one honk at me, I figured I was
about to be hit, and was getting ready for a dive, tuck and roll dismount
:-).

-Bob
Shad O'Shay - 30 Apr 2007 15:20 GMT
> : Most road bike riders try to obey the rules of the road.  There are
> a lot
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> with
> his riding buddies instead of single file.

Sad that you're too ignorant to know the cycling laws. In most states
the Uniform Traffic Codes state cyclist may ride two abreast on
sub-standard width lanes. And they may also ride two abreast on standard
width lanes as long as they are not impeding traffic. And a recent
appeals court ruling in Ohio which sets precedent for any state using
UTC (all of them most likely) and that precedent states a cyclist moving
at normal cycling speeds is not capaple of impeding traffic. Honestly,
you are the one giving cyclists a bad name by siding with these RVers
who don't know the law either.

Shad O'Shay
Bob V - 01 May 2007 06:36 GMT
: Sad that you're too ignorant to know the cycling laws. In most states
: the Uniform Traffic Codes state cyclist may ride two abreast on
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: you are the one giving cyclists a bad name by siding with these RVers
: who don't know the law either.

You sure proved you idiocy with that paragraph.  Any cyclist riding side by
side on any road, sub-standard or standard with motor vehicle traffic, is
not using any common sense, and is most definitely impeding traffic.  I was
very fortunate enough to ride in a group with Greg LeMond many years ago,
and before we started riding, he was very clear that we would stay in line,
until and unless traffic was clear from behind before attempting to pass
another rider.

It's been my experience over the years, the more one brags about his
supposed accomplishments, the less truth there is to them.  Provide links to
your accomplishments.. In other words, put up or shut up.
Shad O'Shay - 03 May 2007 21:22 GMT
> It's been my experience over the years, the more one brags about his
> supposed accomplishments, the less truth there is to them.  Provide
> links to
> your accomplishments.. In other words, put up or shut up.

Why should I do the work for you by providing links? Better you do some
Googling and reading on your own. Get some cycling magazine
subscriptions. Anybody with half a clue and is a cycling enthusiast
could figure out what my real identity is just from the clues I've
already posted. Doh!

Shad O'Shay
Shad O'Shay - 30 Apr 2007 15:15 GMT
>> Shay,
>>
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> rider who normally carries patch kits, extra tubes and emergency
> tools.

Real cyclist? I doubt that. If you don't know what a sag wagon (or as
it's now called a "broom wagon") is and how the name got started then
you're no cyclist.
FYI it's needed when cyclists "sag" from fatigue.

> I have ridden about 25,000 miles in the past 5 to 6 years, since our
> son got me into riding.  Up until this last year I've been averaging
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Summer. I ride with groups on my single bike, with my wife on our
> tandem and by myself.

Only 25,000 miles? that's little more than an "enthusiast" certainly
doesn't even come close to the miles us pros put in. I rode more than
10,000 miles training LAST YEAR!

> Most road bike riders try to obey the rules of the road.  There are a
> lot that fly thru the stops and signals, but that is not the norm.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> read leads me to think that he is an arrogant and rude bike rider.  He
> isn't the only one, but he is a minority.

I know the law and I obey the law as I've stated many times here
already.  It's the ignorant motorists who are clueless when it comes to
bicycle law. That's been demonstrated here beyond a doubt.

> My wife and I are going to retire in June/July (as soon as our home
> sells) and are going on-the-road fulltime with a 5er.  One of the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Pass-thru size is our first requirement.  This is how serious we are
> for our riding.

Oh please! Freaking recreational riders who can barely manage 15mph.
give me a break already!

> Your offer is a dream come true for bike riders.  You could offer that
> to any group of riders when they have a long ride or even an organized
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> that are going to be in that ride, and they'd love having some
> support.

Lightweights! Good on you for being interested in cycling but you're not
even in my league. Do you ever see the little boy on his tricyle?
You're as far above him as I am above you, sir, from a physical
standpoint. And the dude's offer is dumb. Why would any "real" cyclist
wish to be a RVer first and a cyclist 2nd? Real cyclists put cycling
first.

> I've already taken up too much bandwidth for a "lurker" and I
> apologize for the long rant, but I just wanted to compliment you for
> your offer.  And just in case I need to verify my legitimacy to
> O'Shay, I have two single bikes, a 1984 restored Pinarello and a 2001
> Custom Team Pegoretti, with a daVinci tandem for my DW and me. I'll go
> head-to-head with him anytime, on the hill of his choice!

The Pinarello might be kool. Retros have some following but they are
really rather obsolete even for training these days. If you don't have a
carbon frame and a bike that weighs about 15 pounds then you're
nowheresville. What's your old Peg made out of? Now, if you'd told me
you ride a Serotta then I might have been impressed.

As for going head to head with me? Ha ha ha! Forget it. dude. Your'e way
too old for one thing. Can you do L'Alp D'Heuz from the base to the top
in forty minutes? I can. That's four minutes behind Marco Pantani's
record of 36 minutes and not quite as good as Lance's best time but very
respectable. Hey, I'm a world class athlete and you're just a
recreational rider. Don't even try to compare the two.

Shad O'Shay
John - 30 Apr 2007 20:56 GMT
<snipped gibberish>
>" That's four minutes behind Marco Pantani's record of 36 minutes and not
>quite as good as Lance's best time but very respectable."

Four minutes behind Pantani, and you spend your time talking trash on a Rv
newsgroup?  I've heard it all now! LOL!

You're disgusting for even invoking Pantanis' name in the same paragraph
with yours.

Sorry folks, for antagonizing the troll.  I'll go back to lurking now.

John
Shad O'Shay - 03 May 2007 21:24 GMT
> Sorry folks, for antagonizing the troll.  I'll crawl back into my hole
> now.
>
> John

There's a good lad, you shoulda never crawled out of it in the first
place.

Shad O'Shay
Shad O'Shay - 30 Apr 2007 14:51 GMT
> Shay,
>
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>
> Jonathan King

Thanks for the offer but no thanks. I'd rather not be associated with
any RV. The pollution they produce is enough to make be feel guilty even
being associated with one. If you really want to do me a favor, sell it,
buy a Prius and stop polluting the atmosphere and contributing to global
warming. You sound like a decent sort so why do you feel comfortable
contributing more than your fair share of pollution?

Shad O'Shay
Jonathan King - 30 Apr 2007 20:15 GMT
>> Shay,
>>
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>
> Shad O'Shay

Very good points you make upon strongly held principles. My Motorhome puts
out less pollution per year than the average working man's car. I drive it
much less than the average commuter, it meets the most current pollution
standards plus it gets 12-15 mpg. On the whole I don't commute to a job so
my total pollution output is much less than the average citizen. If you ride
along with me our total pollution output per person will be less. When you
look at what it takes to heat and light a full size house, my motorhome
creates much less pollution. The 12Volt electrical system is completely
recharged by solar power when parked, a wind generator,  the toilet is the
composting type, it has a swamp cooler instead of an airconditioner and the
lifestyle creates much less packaging waste.

Jonathan King
Steve B - 30 Apr 2007 20:51 GMT
If you really want to do me a favor, sell it, buy a
>> Prius and stop polluting the atmosphere and contributing to global
>> warming. You sound like a decent sort so why do you feel comfortable
>> contributing more than your fair share of pollution?
>>
>> Shad O'Shay

I went to a Port O Subs yesterday in the upscale yuppie/retired section of
town called Summerlin.  There was a free paper there that had to do with the
events happening in Summerlin.

On the front was a picture taken at the recent Tree Hugger's Picnic.  An
outdoor fair that had all sorts of displays, most to do with how eeeeevil
the car manufacturers were, and all this stuff about green this-n-that, and
carbon footprints.

The picture was of a child popping a balloon of C02.  The resulting plume
looked like the fog associated with CO2, somewhat like a puff of white
cotton candy.

Now, they did that all day long.  I don't know how many bottles of CO2 they
cut loose, and I don't know what the purpose was except to entertain
children with this pretty white little cloud.

So, they're against CO2, but will use it in a meaningless demonstration to
attract minds full of mush to their cause.  And discharge it directly into
the atmosphere.

Steve
David Moffitt - 01 May 2007 01:06 GMT
>> Shay,
>>
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>
> Shad O'Shay

http://www.eisboch.com/hybrid.jpg
Zoro - 09 Mar 2008 17:25 GMT
Poppy cock
> Shay,
>
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>
> Jonathan King
 
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