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Montague Folding Bikes

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Jonathan King - 02 May 2007 13:55 GMT
Has anyone ever used those Montague folding bikes? I'm interested in getting
the paratrooper model for my RV. Do they ride like a real bike or do they
feel like they are going to accordian? The bikes fit inside so they won't
get all hanked up by rain and road grime.
Shad O'Shay - 02 May 2007 16:50 GMT
> Has anyone ever used those Montague folding bikes? I'm interested in
> getting the paratrooper model for my RV. Do they ride like a real bike
> or do they feel like they are going to accordian? The bikes fit inside
> so they won't get all hanked up by rain and road grime.

The Paratrooper is cool. I have a marine buddy who loves it. Of course,
he uses the military version which costs over a grand but you'll
probably have to settle for the civilian version which costs about 700
bucks. I've ridden his on the trails and it's a beast.

In testing, 250 pound marines with 75 pound combat packs rode off five
foot drops. Several wheels got tacoed. Durability was improved with
48-spoke, double-walled, tandem wheels. It uses a 24-speed Deore drive
train. No tools are required for folding. Two quick release levers, one
on the front wheel and one on the frame under the front of the seat do
the job in about 30 seconds. At about 30 pounds it's no lightweight but
it will carry huge loads (i.e. obese RVers and their even larger Janet
Wilder/Rosie O'Donnel-shaped women) without breaking down. It's got a
thick oval aluminum tube welded between steering tube and seat tube
(also aluminum) and a steel rear triangle.

The performance is great. They are extremely rigid. It's a hardtail but
has a Rock Shox with 100mm travel up front. The bike folds to 36 x 30 x
12 inches. The frame has a lifetime warranty. That should tell you
something. I rode my friend's military model at about 30mph off a couple
ten-foot downhill vertical drops and it never flinched. The brakes need
to be upgraded to discs for serious boondocking especially if it's wet.
The rim-clamp brakes sort of don't work when things are wet and muddy.
Plus they can jam up with vegetation and mud especially at the fork that
has the Rock Shox over-the-tire brace. An elastomer seat tube might also
be helpful to smooth out the ride over rough terrain. Or you can be a
marine and spend most of your riding time standing on the large serrated
platform pedals. You won't find clipless on this thing nor would you
want them. I've never seen combat boots with Speedplay or SPD cleats,
have you?

Shad O'Shay
Jonathan King - 03 May 2007 14:58 GMT
>> Has anyone ever used those Montague folding bikes? I'm interested in
>> getting the paratrooper model for my RV. Do they ride like a real bike or
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> Shad O'Shay

Is there any noise in the frame locking clamps when it is pedaled under
heavy force? I believe the paratrooper model has disc brakes.  I ride with
spud cleats on mountain bikes. After the first crash you learn how to get
out of them quickly. There is some terrain where spuds are a bit ridiculous.
I don't like shock forks because they are not stable in high speed turns. 30
lbs is not that heavy for what the bike does. How is the gearing? Is there
sufficient top end for the road? Is it a 52 x 11? $700 is a good price,
considering the premium charged on other exotic bikes.

How is your bike shipped around when you travel? Is it in a bag/case or on a
rack on the back of an RV? Do you find that water gets into the bearings and
the seat gets soggy?
Shad O'Shay - 03 May 2007 21:10 GMT
>>> Has anyone ever used those Montague folding bikes? I'm interested in
>>> getting the paratrooper model for my RV. Do they ride like a real
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> Is there any noise in the frame locking clamps when it is pedaled
> under heavy force?

I didn't notice any noise there. It's just a pivot joint so it shouldn't
have much if any twisting torque on it from hard pedaling.

> I believe the paratrooper model has disc brakes.  I ride with spud
> cleats on mountain bikes. After the first crash you learn how to get
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> 11? $700 is a good price, considering the premium charged on other
> exotic bikes.

I'm not sure about the number of teeth. There's a triple on the crank
and eight on the cassette. Probably a 12......36 or so. The larger
sprocket looked much larger than the largest on my road machines (23).
The gearing seemed way low even in the large chainring compared to my
road bikes. Probably only good for about 30mph without spinning out.

But, I like to spin a large gear even uphill. Lance Armstrong used
smaller gears and his cadence is way up there around 100 or even 110. He
was some machine that guy! VO2 max through the roof. I like 85 to 95
better. Suits my cardio-vascular system better. I can put out equivalant
wattage but at lower RPMs.

On a bunch sprint, after my lead-out does his work, I turn 53/11, which
maxes out my sprint at about 50-55mph. Regular people can't put out this
kind of power even in their dreams. I would suspect topping out at 30mph
is all most amatuers can attain so there's really no use having gearing
for 50mph. You couldn't do it anyway, dude.

> How is your bike shipped around when you travel? Is it in a bag/case
> or on a rack on the back of an RV? Do you find that water gets into
> the bearings and the seat gets soggy?

My road bikes are shipped by air disassembled in a hard padded case like
a big suitcase. Around Europe between events they live in the "garage"
in the team bus. Spares are carried exposed to the elements on roof
racks on the team chase vehicles.

The seats don't get soggy. Not enough padding to get soggy. Some are
nothing but carbon fiber attached to a couple carbon rails. The padding
is in the bib shorts. It's especially designed to wick and evaporate
sweat away. Wheel bearings are sealed. Water ingress isn't a problem.
Even when the Paris-Roubaix is a wet, muddy hell on the pavé (this year
it was dusty) the bearings aren't affected (the chain is another story).
Your wheel bearings must stay clean so they don't cause friction and
impede your forward speed. Gone are the days of the loose or caged ball
bearings exposed to the elements. My custom TT bike has ceramic wheel
bearings which are supposed to be much rounder and more efficient. I
can't tell the difference while riding but even if they give you a
second or two over the competition the higher price is well worth it so
the team goes high-zoot.

Shad O'Shay
Harry Harris - 05 May 2007 01:28 GMT
> I'm not sure about the number of teeth. There's a triple on the crank
> and eight on the cassette. Probably a 12......36 or so. The larger
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>
> Shad O'Shay

Hey, "Shad." How's about a couple more clues as to your real identity? I
think pro cyclists are highly underrated athletes. If I knew who you
were, I could have somebody to cheer on now that Lance has retired.

Harry Harris

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Jonathan King - 05 May 2007 04:10 GMT
>> I'm not sure about the number of teeth. There's a triple on the crank and
>> eight on the cassette. Probably a 12......36 or so. The larger sprocket
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> Harry Harris

I'm not certain he is a professional racer. He does know a lot about bikes,
bike racing and training. Bicycle racing is the hardest cardio sport going
and it is hard on the body. Very strong mental discipline is needed to be
competitive at a high level. You won't find dope smoking drunks in bicycle
athletics as you do in basketball, baseball and football. If Shad gets a few
people to go out and ride a bit more or shed a few pounds it's a good thing.
One way to tell if he is a professional racer is to have him give us the
first four digits of his racing license and the organization that issued it.
Shad O'Shay - 05 May 2007 18:55 GMT
>>> I'm not sure about the number of teeth. There's a triple on the
>>> crank and eight on the cassette. Probably a 12......36 or so. The
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> professional racer is to have him give us the first four digits of his
> racing license and the organization that issued it.

Right on, brother!

Which license? NORBA? USA Cycling? Or ICU (Union Cycliste
Internationale)?

I'll give you the ICU. You probably meant that one. It's USA1~~~~~~3.
You can try to guess the middle numbers. Doh!

Shad O'Shay
 
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