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A Nevada resident was killed Monday when the bicycle he was riding was struck on US Highway 93 in Northern Arizona. The name of the adult male and his hometown were withheld pending family notification. The Arizona Department of Public Safety said the man, who was not wearing a helmet, was dead at the scene of the 10:51 AM accident 43 miles north of Kingman. Officials said the bicycle veered into the highway and was rearended by a southbound pickup truck. Las Vegas Review-Journal May 9, 2007 I see where "Steve B" <SurDO2Diver@Neptune.com> contributed: >A Nevada resident was killed Monday when the bicycle he was riding was >struck on US Highway 93 in Northern Arizona. The name of the adult male and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Las Vegas Review-Journal May 9, 2007 Couldn't have been Shad if the report is correct. He's not an adult. The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin Democrat majority gonna help the fight or sabotage it? Will Sill > The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war > against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin > Democrat majority gonna help the fight or sabotage it? > Will Sill You gotta love this. Trying to blame the debacle in Iraq on Democrats. Some have no shame or sense of reality. Watch him try to turn this around. >> The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war >> against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Some have no shame or sense of reality. > Watch him try to turn this around. As in can't tell the difference between alt.rv and alt.politics? And then, some just lack a brain. Steve >>> The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war >>> against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Steve Better check your own brain cells, "Rumors of Shad Sightings in Arizona" doesn't belong in alt.rv. >>>> The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war >>>> against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Better check your own brain cells, "Rumors of Shad Sightings in Arizona" > doesn't belong in alt.rv. New here, huh? Steve >>> The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war >>> against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Steve Like some idiot riding his bike has something to do with RVing! >>>> The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war >>>> against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is the razor-thin [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> > Like some idiot riding his bike has something to do with RVing! I never thought I would do this, but I have to give the Shadster credit. He at least had enough brain tissue to put the word RV in his posts. IIRC, he had some issues re: RVers vs: bicyclists and other road users. Infinitely more ON TOPIC than these infantile repetitious duplicitous diatribes against the current Republican administration. They Repubs aren't doing so good a job, but they're about two magnitude better than their Democrat opposites. HTH, but I doubt it. Steve > They Repubs aren't doing so good a job, but they're about two magnitude > better than their Democrat opposites. Thats my view as well. The Rep party is doing a lousy job. They're certainly not conservative by any means. But the Dems have no answers to any problems at all. I don't want to hear how bad someone else is, I want to know what they can do to solve problems that are important to me. >> They Repubs aren't doing so good a job, but they're about two magnitude >> better than their Democrat opposites. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > any problems at all. I don't want to hear how bad someone else is, I want > to know what they can do to solve problems that are important to me. Bush has eliminated all the good options. Anything anybody might suggest, will not be "good" and, as such, is an easy target. No answer would satisfy the Right so, by default, they keep doing the same thing indefinitely. > Bush has eliminated all the good options. lol, thats the Dems excuse for not having a plan for anything at all? Too funny. > Anything anybody might suggest, > will not be "good" and, as such, is an easy target. No answer would > satisfy the Right so, by default, they keep doing the same thing > indefinitely. True, the Dems keep doing nothing at all. Good plan. >> Bush has eliminated all the good options. > > lol, thats the Dems excuse for not having a plan for anything at all? Too > funny. Tell us all about the Republican's plan! >> Anything anybody might suggest, will not be "good" and, as such, is an >> easy target. No answer would satisfy the Right so, by default, they >> keep doing the same thing indefinitely. > > True, the Dems keep doing nothing at all. Good plan. "More of the same indefinitely" - Good plan. > Tell us all about the Republican's plan! I told you already I don't like the Reps plan. Now once again I ask you what the Dems plan is. Never mind. I've asked several times and all you can do is talk about your hatred for the Reps and Bush. >> Tell us all about the Republican's plan! > > I told you already I don't like the Reps plan. Now once again I ask you > what the Dems plan is. Never mind. I've asked several times and all you > can do is talk about your hatred for the Reps and Bush. Oh, you don't have a plan either? > Oh, you don't have a plan either? Already told you several times but you were to busy with your focus of hate. Good that you finally admit the Dems do not have any solutions to any issues, not just terrorism. >> Oh, you don't have a plan either? > > Already told you several times but you were to busy with your focus of > hate. Good that you finally admit the Dems do not have any solutions to > any issues, not just terrorism. Oh, that is right. You can win the war by removing reporters . . . . Somebody needs to tell Bush! > Oh, that is right. You can win the war by removing reporters . . . . > Somebody needs to tell Bush! Never said that. But removing the "peace through surrender" liberals and media will certainly help. The Dems have done everything they can to make sure our military has 1 hand tied behind their back and are defeated. They have a vested political interest in defeat and its just sick...and thats what you support. All for political hatred and nothing more. >> Oh, that is right. You can win the war by removing reporters . . . . >> Somebody needs to tell Bush! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > They have a vested political interest in defeat and its just sick...and > thats what you support. All for political hatred and nothing more. "[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr >>> Oh, that is right. You can win the war by removing reporters . . . . >>> Somebody needs to tell Bush! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, > and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr A lot more bullshit. > A lot more bullshit. Typical well thought out liberal plan you have there!! >> A lot more bullshit. > > Typical well thought out liberal plan you have there!! What do you say to right wing blather? What is your conservative plan? > What do you say to right wing blather? How to tick off a liberal? Get a job, earn a living, be successful, be happy. Works every time. What is your conservative plan for "victory?" >>> A lot more bullshit. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What is your conservative plan? >>> A lot more bullshit. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >What is your conservative plan? The 'conservative/Republican' plan is "we win, they lose" Same as WWI and WWII. Before the cowards came into being! >>>> A lot more bullshit. >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The 'conservative/Republican' plan is "we win, they lose" Same as WWI > and WWII. Before the cowards came into being! LOL! That your idea of a plan. Well it seems to be working for Bush at least . . . >> Oh, that is right. You can win the war by removing reporters . . . . >> Somebody needs to tell Bush! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > They have a vested political interest in defeat and its just sick...and > thats what you support. All for political hatred and nothing more. Oh bullshit. > Oh bullshit. Oh ya? Then tell me what the Dems plan is for fighting global terrorism. Thats whats BS. They have a vested interest in campaign 2008 no matter what the cost. It's one thing to bash Bush for the way he's doing things. It's quite another to not have any solution to any problems they feel Bush is doing wrong. The Dems need to put up or shut up. >> Oh bullshit. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's quite another to not have any solution to any problems they feel Bush > is doing wrong. The Dems need to put up or shut up. How about you tell us all about the Republican's plans for fighting global terror. Is it something like staying pinned down in Iraq not fighting terror without an end in sight? > How about you tell us all about the Republican's plans for fighting global > terror. Is it something like staying pinned down in Iraq not fighting > terror without an end in sight? You're proving my point with every post of yours. You are making terrorism into nothing but a political issue. Reps vs. Dems. Just plain disgusting. >> How about you tell us all about the Republican's plans for fighting >> global terror. Is it something like staying pinned down in Iraq not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > terrorism into nothing but a political issue. Reps vs. Dems. Just plain > disgusting. A non answer. OK Mr. Conservative, what is your plan for "victory" in Iraq? > A non answer. OK Mr. Conservative, what is your plan for "victory" in Iraq? I have told you several times but you're to busy with your hate rants. You do not even care one bit about fighting terrorism. It's not a priority issue for you. The only thing that is, is your hate for Bush. Thats just disgusting. The terrorists win with your set of priorities. >> A non answer. OK Mr. Conservative, what is your plan for "victory" in >> Iraq? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > issue for you. The only thing that is, is your hate for Bush. Thats just > disgusting. The terrorists win with your set of priorities. The only "road to victory" you have told me is to remove embedded reporters. Got any other ideas? The only thing that is, is your hate for Democrats. That's just disgusting. > The only thing that is, is your hate for Democrats. > That's just disgusting. Already told you that my states government is mostly Democrat and they are doing a great job contrary to the prior Reps who were horrible. It's all politics to you isn't it? Terrorism can take a back seat while you just play politics. Good grief. >> The only thing that is, is your hate for Democrats. >> That's just disgusting. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > politics to you isn't it? Terrorism can take a back seat while you just > play politics. Good grief. I can play your game. The only "road to victory" you have told me is to remove embedded reporters. Got any other ideas? > The only "road to victory" you have told me is to remove embedded reporters. > Got any other ideas? Keep on the offense towards terrorism rather than the pre-9/11 method of defense. Now, you ready to tell me what the Dems have to offer or are you still in the bash Reps and Bush and forget about anything else mode? >> The only "road to victory" you have told me is to remove embedded >> reporters. >> Got any other ideas? > > Keep on the offense towards terrorism rather than the pre-9/11 method of > defense. Oh please. I thought you had a plan. You know, something we could go out and win in Iraq with. Such a disapointment. No wonder I had a hard time recalling it. > Oh please. Nice job of snipping there! At least I stated something. Thats better than your nothing, nada, zip...same as the Democrats. >> Oh please. > > Nice job of snipping there! At least I stated something. Thats better > than your nothing, nada, zip...same as the Democrats. I am only returning your snips. Let's try this again. Oh please. I thought you had a plan. You know, something we could go out and win in Iraq with. Such a disappointment. No wonder I had a hard time recalling it. >>> Oh bullshit. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >terror. Is it something like staying pinned down in Iraq not fighting >terror without an end in sight? You idiot. I will give you $1000 if you can produce a single document where George Washington set a date for winning. Another $1000 for a document where Abe Lincoln gave a timetable. Another $1000 for similar from Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt/Truman, etc. Dean >>>> Oh bullshit. >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > document where Abe Lincoln gave a timetable. Another $1000 for > similar from Woodrow Wilson and Roosevelt/Truman, etc. Setting a date sucks. No doubt about it. But Bush has forced us into a position where that seems like the least worst option. It is far better than more of the same indefinitely which is all he has offered. > You gotta love this. Trying to blame the debacle in Iraq on Democrats. > Some have no shame or sense of reality. The Democrats are committed to failure as a sick part of their campaign 2008. The Democrats have done everything they can to limit our militaries abilities and compromised their safety and abilities. All for political gains. The fastest way to bring our troops home is to let them fight on their terms and give them everything they want and need. The Democrats methods have and will cause our troops to extend their stay, not shorten it. The latest bill Bush vetoed was horrible. Setting a deadline for failure is a clear message to the radical elements we're fighting. Not to mention the bill had $20 billion in pork barrel spending unrelated to Iraq. They needed that pork in order to gain the needed Democrat votes to get it through congress. That says it all! snipped > The Democrats are committed to failure as a sick part of their campaign > 2008. The Democrats have done everything they can to limit our [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > spending unrelated to Iraq. They needed that pork in order to gain the > needed Democrat votes to get it through congress. That says it all! Ever stop to think that friendly Muslims might be getting testy about us fighting radicals on their turf and bragging to the world about not fighting them at home? Maybe you haven't noticed the administration is beginning to swerve from it's narrow minded approach to the war plus, there are many republicans who are joining the wish for bench marks. Yes the bill was bad and yes it had added pork to help it through but might I remind you that is not a trait attributed to just democrats. Pork is one way to get aid for local projects. I would mention route 17 in New York. It needed rebuilding for years and if not for D'Amato it would still be a mess. I heard many stories about the unneeded pork sought by D'Amato for reconstruction of 17 and knowing the truth of it, I can see where each bit of pork has to be considered in its own light and what help it is to the region. Pork is really the result of debate, barter and compromise, it doesn't always have to be an "evil thang". Hugh > Ever stop to think that friendly Muslims might be getting testy about us > fighting radicals on their turf and bragging to the world about not > fighting them at home? Maybe you haven't noticed the administration is > beginning to swerve from it's narrow minded approach to the war plus, > there are many republicans who are joining the wish for bench marks. American Muslim groups have denounced the radical element of their faith. However, they have not been very vocal in the matter either for or against much of anything. > Yes the bill was bad and yes it had added pork to help it through but > might I remind you that is not a trait attributed to just democrats. Never said it was. The bill was bad and was rightfully vetoed. The reason the Democrats pushed it through full aware it would be vetoed was for political points with the clueless moderate Democrats who will knee-jerk react without comprehension. snipped > Never said it was. The bill was bad and was rightfully vetoed. The > reason the Democrats pushed it through full aware it would be vetoed was > for political points with the clueless moderate Democrats who will > knee-jerk react without comprehension. The democrats were trying to send a message. Personally, I think it was the wrong one. I'd much rather it had been one demanding bench marks with teeth. I'm all for giving the Iraqi's a short rope, either they get their sh.t together or we toss the bums out and really occupy the country. The stakes for the future are too high for a half assed effort and that's what this whole experiment has been. Hugh >> You gotta love this. Trying to blame the debacle in Iraq on Democrats. >> Some have no shame or sense of reality. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Iraq. They needed that pork in order to gain the needed Democrat votes to > get it through congress. That says it all! What a laughable pile of rationalizations. In less time than it took us to defeat two world powers on opposite sides of the globe, Bush only has a worse situation to deal with and you want to blame the opposition for showing sanity. "Everything they need" What a joke. Bush has broken the armed forces. There is not much left to give. > What a laughable pile of rationalizations. In less time than it took us to > defeat two world powers on opposite sides of the globe, Bush only has a > worse situation to deal with and you want to blame the opposition for > showing sanity. Peace through surrender is sanity? Hardly. The Democrats have NO plan whatsoever to deal with global terrorism. It seems they wish to return to the decades old method of just ignoring it and it will go away. >> What a laughable pile of rationalizations. In less time than it took us >> to defeat two world powers on opposite sides of the globe, Bush only has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > whatsoever to deal with global terrorism. It seems they wish to return to > the decades old method of just ignoring it and it will go away. "Terrorism" and Iraq are different things. The Republicans offer only more of the same failure in Iraq at the expense of fighting real terrorism. In Iraq, we are now sacrificing lives and treasure in the vein hope that Bush will not be called the worst president in our history. > "Terrorism" and Iraq are different things. Not so. If we lose Iraq we lose badly against terrorism. The middle east is the heart of terrorism. Don't agree? Fine, then tell me what is? What should we do to fight global terrorism? Don't tell me what we shouldnt do, tell me what we should do? The Republicans offer only more > of the same failure in Iraq at the expense of fighting real terrorism. Real terrorism? Ok, I'll bite. What is real terrorism? Go back to the decades old method of treating terrorism as a police problem? > Iraq, we are now sacrificing lives and treasure in the vein hope that Bush > will not be called the worst president in our history. And the peace through surrender, no plan Democrats are the worst party in history. Their sick desire to treat terrorism based on political desires is disgusting. >> "Terrorism" and Iraq are different things. > > Not so. If we lose Iraq we lose badly against terrorism. The middle east > is the heart of terrorism. Don't agree? Fine, then tell me what is? > What should we do to fight global terrorism? Don't tell me what we > shouldnt do, tell me what we should do? Bush made Iraq a terrorist problem and now we have to live with it. > The Republicans offer only more >> of the same failure in Iraq at the expense of fighting real terrorism. > > Real terrorism? Ok, I'll bite. What is real terrorism? Go back to the > decades old method of treating terrorism as a police problem? 9 / 11 was real terrorism. Fighting resistance and reffreeing a civil war is not. ill not be called the worst president in our history. > And the peace through surrender, no plan Democrats are the worst party in > history. Their sick desire to treat terrorism based on political desires > is disgusting. Again, tell us all how to win this debacle. Obviously you believe that we can "win," Tell us exactly how/ More of the same, longer? > Bush made Iraq a terrorist problem and now we have to live with it. I asked you what the Dems plan is for dealing with GLOBAL terrorism and you just jump on the liberal bandwagon of hating Bush. I don't like him either but thats not a solution for fighting terrorism. Thats just venting. Try again. Whats the Dems solution for dealing with GLOBAL terrorism? Can you answer without mentioning Bush? He's gone in another year and a 1/2. So what have the Dems come up with? Anything at all or just rant about Bush some more which does nothing? > 9 / 11 was real terrorism. Fighting resistance and reffreeing a civil war > is not. True 9/11 was real terrorism. I asked how we fight 'real terrorism' and this is your answer, a typical liberal non-answer? What is it with you and your non-answers? Where should be we fighting? Afghanistan perhaps? Terrorism is far bigger than just any one place. Whats the Dems plan? > Again, tell us all how to win this debacle. Obviously you believe that we > can "win," Tell us exactly how/ More of the same, longer? Nope. Shut the Dems up. Let the generals do what they want entirely. Quit with attempting to fight a media covered PC war. No more embedded journalists. Get them out of the military. If they wish to cover the war they do so on their own. >> Bush made Iraq a terrorist problem and now we have to live with it. Whats the Dems solution for dealing with GLOBAL First part of the plan is to abondon doing more of the same indefinatley. >> 9 / 11 was real terrorism. Fighting resistance and reffreeing a civil >> war is not. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and your non-answers? Where should be we fighting? Afghanistan perhaps? > Terrorism is far bigger than just any one place. Whats the Dems plan? I ask you for the Republican plan and get nothing! >> Again, tell us all how to win this debacle. Obviously you believe that >> we can "win," Tell us exactly how/ More of the same, longer? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > journalists. Get them out of the military. If they wish to cover the war > they do so on their own. The war is failing because of the massager? That is a new one. . . > First part of the plan is to abondon doing more of the same indefinatley. And then go back to doing nothing as we have for decades. That is exactly what the Dems have been wanting us to do. Return us to the pre-9/11 mentality of ignoring. > I ask you for the Republican plan and get nothing! Already told you I do not like Bush nor the Reps plan. I want to know what the Dems have to offer which according to you is basically nothing. >> First part of the plan is to abondon doing more of the same >> indefinatley. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Already told you I do not like Bush nor the Reps plan. I want to know > what the Dems have to offer which according to you is basically nothing. Your plan is what? > I see where "Steve B" <SurDO2Diver@Neptune.com> contributed: >> A Nevada resident was killed Monday when the bicycle he was riding was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Democrat majority gonna help the fight or sabotage it? > Will Sill The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg Iran to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. > The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg Iran > to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. What is your plan for "victory?" | > The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg Iran | > to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. | | What is your plan for "victory?" Good job Browne? > What is your plan for "victory?" Let the troops run the war their way and give them what they request. Instead we have to fight a politically correct war with tons of liberal armchair generals. Now tell me what the Democrats plan is for dealing with global terrorism? So far the only replies I've seen from Democrats is that they don't like the Reps methods. No plan is worse. >> What is your plan for "victory?" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > terrorism? So far the only replies I've seen from Democrats is that > they don't like the Reps methods. No plan is worse. I've seen lots of plans from the democrats, some have much merit. Actually, there is an ever smaller core of believers of Bushology and an ever growing number wondering if the Emperor has no clothes. Hugh > I've seen lots of plans from the democrats, some have much merit. > Actually, there is an ever smaller core of believers of Bushology and an > ever growing number wondering if the Emperor has no clothes. Seen lots? There have been various Democrat individuals who have loosely stated their opinions. But NO cohesive plan to deal with terrorism has been developed by the Democratic party. This is despite the likes of Pelosi saying prior to the last election "We have a plan". It's apparently a top secret plan because nobody other than her knows what it is. The only plan the Dems have made public is to surrender and thats only dealing with Iraq. No word on how the Democrats wish to fight global terrorism. NONE. snipped > Seen lots? There have been various Democrat individuals who have > loosely stated their opinions. But NO cohesive plan to deal with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > thats only dealing with Iraq. No word on how the Democrats wish to > fight global terrorism. NONE. Maybe you haven't noticed, the one based on Bushology ain't exactly working too well. Or, are you one of those who think Bush can do no wrong? Hugh > Maybe you haven't noticed, the one based on Bushology ain't exactly > working too well. Or, are you one of those who think Bush can do no wrong? Here we go again. Every time I ask what the Dems plan is for dealing with terrorism out comes the "we hate Bush" as an answer. Great, I dont like him either. Now I ask again. What is the Dems plan? Hint:They Have NO plan at all for dealing with terrorism. >> Maybe you haven't noticed, the one based on Bushology ain't exactly >> working too well. Or, are you one of those who think Bush can do no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > him either. Now I ask again. What is the Dems plan? Hint:They Have NO > plan at all for dealing with terrorism. First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had nothing to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. > First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had nothing to > do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. The middle east is the heart of terrorism. None the less, you still haven't told me what the Dems plan is for dealing with terrorism. Before Iraq the Dems gave nothing towards dealing with terrorism. NOTHING. >> First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had nothing >> to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. > > The middle east is the heart of terrorism. None the less, you still > haven't told me what the Dems plan is for dealing with terrorism. Before > Iraq the Dems gave nothing towards dealing with terrorism. NOTHING. The Democrats want to stop doing futile things in the name of fighting terrorism. The Republicans can only offer more of the same, longer. How long do you think the Republicans will be willing to prop up their little president? >>> First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had nothing >>> to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > long do you think the Republicans will be willing to prop up their little > president? Not much longer. Then we'll have Land Scammer Reid, California Illegal Alien Employer of the Month Pelosi, Warm Pants Gore, Takes a Village Thunder Thighs Hillary, Barack Never Heard About Decimal Places Obama, et al steering our ship. Let us pray. If that happens, we are not just screwed up like we are now. We're f.cked! Steve >>>> First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had nothing >>>> to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > We're f.cked! Yes, we are f.cked by Bush and his party . . .It is time for a change. >>>>> First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had >>>>> nothing to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Yes, we are f.cked by Bush and his party . . .It is time for a change. Dan, since you post the SAME thing over and over and over and over, there is no reason for me to read any of your posts. Ever again. Bye. Steve >>>>>> First, their plan is to quit being distracted by Iraq which had >>>>>> nothing to do with real terrorism before Bush invaded. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Dan, since you post the SAME thing over and over and over and over, there > is no reason for me to read any of your posts. Ever again. Unsurprising. . . > Yes, we are f.cked by Bush and his party . . .It is time for a change. The Dems have offered us nothing to suggest the change would be anything but worse. Pelosi said the voters have spoken and the Dems gained control right? Guess what. Current polls (Dems love polls as long as they bash Bush), suggest the publics support of congress has plummeted AFTER the Dems gained control. Good job!! >> Yes, we are f.cked by Bush and his party . . .It is time for a change. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bush), suggest the publics support of congress has plummeted AFTER the > Dems gained control. Good job!! What are the Republicans offering? >The Democrats want to stop doing futile things in the name of fighting >terrorism. The Republicans can only offer more of the same, longer. How >long do you think the Republicans will be willing to prop up their little >president? So you recommend we concede and die under their sword? That is the only option under your plan...PLAN???? >>The Democrats want to stop doing futile things in the name of fighting >>terrorism. The Republicans can only offer more of the same, longer. How [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So you recommend we concede and die under their sword? That is the > only option under your plan...PLAN???? Their "plan" is to withdraw and become isolationists in our Utopia. Quit importing oil from the terrorists. Quit importing goods from countries who exploit women, children, and all poor citizens. We'll all ride bicycles, have gardens, chant OM six hours a day, have outdoor toilets, and sit in the dark and sing Coom Bye Yah, by the glow of cities being bombed by countries whose sworn goal is to obliterate us. I believe that is the "PLAN" if we go by their suggestions. They just won't post a "PLAN", as it would use too many trees to publish it. STeve > Their "plan" is to withdraw and become isolationists in our Utopia. Quit > importing oil from the terrorists. Quit importing goods from countries who > exploit women, children, and all poor citizens. They don't want us to import oil from terrorists but they also do not want us to find and use our own oil instead until such time alternative fuels become widely available. > So you recommend we concede and die under their sword? That is the > only option under your plan...PLAN???? So you think this self induced mess is winnable? Tell us how - exactly. > So you think this self induced mess is winnable? Tell us how - exactly. Tell the media and the Dems to STFU and quit limiting our militaries abilities and quit selling out to our enemies for political gains. >> So you think this self induced mess is winnable? Tell us how - exactly. > > Tell the media and the Dems to STFU and quit limiting our militaries > abilities and quit selling out to our enemies for political gains. LOL! It is the "media" that is losing the war. That's the answer! Why didn't I think of that . . . > LOL! It is the "media" that is losing the war. That's the answer! Why > didn't I think of that . . . It is impossible to win a war in which the Democrats do everything they can to compromise the abilities and safety of our troops. Iraq isn't the only place our troops are serving but you knew that already right? Our troops around the world have been limited considerably by your ilk. >> LOL! It is the "media" that is losing the war. That's the answer! Why >> didn't I think of that . . . [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > only place our troops are serving but you knew that already right? Our > troops around the world have been limited considerably by your ilk. Our troops have been limited by Bush and his ilk's foolish war. > Our troops have been limited by Bush and his ilk's foolish war. What have the Dems done to help our troops around the world? Care to name the policies they have pushed that would help rather than hinder our troops in Iraq and elsewhere? >> Our troops have been limited by Bush and his ilk's foolish war. > > What have the Dems done to help our troops around the world? Care to name > the policies they have pushed that would help rather than hinder our > troops in Iraq and elsewhere? Yes, stop wasting lives and treasure on Iraq. Use the saved lives and treasure to better fight terrorists. > Yes, stop wasting lives and treasure on Iraq. Use the saved lives and > treasure to better fight terrorists. Exactly where and what will they do? Your bashing is empty unless you have some solid solution. If we do get out of Iraq you have no plan for what to do next. Nothing. Same as the Democrats as a whole. If we do surrender as you want Iraq and much of the middle east will tumble even worse. But the Dems seem to want that because it gains hem votes. Sick. >> Yes, stop wasting lives and treasure on Iraq. Use the saved lives and >> treasure to better fight terrorists. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > tumble even worse. But the Dems seem to want that because it gains hem > votes. Sick. There you go again with the political motive thing. Shame. Imaging what we could have done with the money Bush poured into Iraq. How about port inspection for a start. Tell us what we have received from our life and treasure in Iraq these four years. > There you go again with the political motive thing. Shame. True it is a shame the Dems keep making fighting terrorism into nothing more than a political issue for them. The Dems have been saying the same thing for years now "Bush sucks so vote for us". Bush won't be running in the next election. The Dems need to start saying what they will do rather than what someone else is doing. >> There you go again with the political motive thing. Shame. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the next election. The Dems need to start saying what they will do rather > than what someone else is doing. What is your plan for victory? Tell us what we have received from our life and treasure in Iraq these four years. > What is your plan for victory? I told you several times. Now, without mentioning Bush, Reps or Dems tell me how we should be fighting terrorism. It's not a political issue. >> What is your plan for victory? > > I told you several times. Now, without mentioning Bush, Reps or Dems tell > me how we should be fighting terrorism. It's not a political issue. I may be a bit slow. Please repeat your answer. It really won't take much time. . . > The Democrats want to stop doing futile things in the name of fighting > terrorism. Ok great, thats what the Dems don't want to do. Tell me what the Dems do want to do in order to fight global terrorism. Pelosi said the Dems have a plan. What is it? >> What is your plan for "victory?" > > Let the troops run the war their way and give them what they request. > Instead we have to fight a politically correct war with tons of liberal > armchair generals. Bush keeps saying that he is giving them exactly what they say they neeed. Is he deluded? > Now tell me what the Democrats plan is for dealing with global terrorism? > So far the only replies I've seen from Democrats is that they don't like > the Reps methods. No plan is worse. First the Democrats want to stop wasting lives and treasure trying to defend Bush's legacy. > First the Democrats want to stop wasting lives and treasure trying to defend > Bush's legacy. So where in this Democrats plan you mention something to deal with global terrorism? I stated that the only reply I get is about Bush and you just proved it. No Democrat plan for dealing with global terrorism. NONE, ZIP, NADA. Just 'we hate Bush' without anything done towards fighting terrorism. Fine, Bush's method sucks...what is the Democrats plan besides peace through surrender? >> First the Democrats want to stop wasting lives and treasure trying to >> defend Bush's legacy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > terrorism. Fine, Bush's method sucks...what is the Democrats plan besides > peace through surrender? Again, stop doing stupid things to defend Bush like the Republicans only seem to want to do. That is the start. >>> First the Democrats want to stop wasting lives and treasure trying to >>> defend Bush's legacy. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Again, stop doing stupid things to defend Bush like the Republicans only > seem to want to do. That is the start. Now, if we could only get the Democrats to stop doing stupid things. <g> Steve > "miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message >> I stated that the only reply I get is about Bush and you just >> proved it. > Again, stop doing stupid things to defend Bush like the Republicans only > seem to want to do. That is the start. LOL, once again you proved my point. I didn't mention Bush, defend etc. The Dems have no plan. Just bash Bush. Follow the bandwagon but have no plan at all. >> "miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The Dems have no plan. Just bash Bush. Follow the bandwagon but have no > plan at all. The Republicans "plan" is more of thesame, longer. I hope that impresses you. > The Republicans "plan" is more of thesame, longer. I hope that impresses > you. You just keep proving my point that the Dems have no plan to deal with terrorism at all. Only to state they don't like Reps or Bush. Fine, I dont like them either. I don't like the Reps plan. We agree on that. Now can you or can you not tell me what the Dems plan for dealing with terrorism is? So far you have been completely unable to do so. >> The Republicans "plan" is more of thesame, longer. I hope that impresses >> you. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can you or can you not tell me what the Dems plan for dealing with > terrorism is? So far you have been completely unable to do so. Good, you admit that the Republican plan sucks. That is a start. Now tell us about the "miles" plan. > Good, you admit that the Republican plan sucks. The Dems have NO plan. There plan is to gain political power and nothing more. When they took control of congress the very FIRST thing they pushed to the table was to remove the restrictions on raising taxes. Their first vote was to allow raising of taxes with a simple majority rather than 2/3's majority as it had been. This despite telling voters their list of priorities and how they would get right to it...well, after they told congress to take a break so congress members could attend a sporting event. If the Reps are worthless the Dems are even worse. Thats my point. >> Good, you admit that the Republican plan sucks. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > event. If the Reps are worthless the Dems are even worse. Thats my > point. No, your point is that you hate the Democrats. > No, your point is that you hate the Democrats. Nope. Our Governor is a Dem and doing a good job whesreas her Rep predecessor was horrible. I dislike the Dem leaders, Pelosi, Kennedy, Edwards, Clinton and company. There are many good Dems but the party as a whole is too busy saying whats bad to give any time on forming solutions to any of our major issues. I wish they would spend more time on the latter. You have shown they can't do so. >> No, your point is that you hate the Democrats. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to any of our major issues. I wish they would spend more time on the > latter. You have shown they can't do so. Right . . . Go shoot a reporter. > Right . . . > > Go shoot a reporter. and a few of the radical liberals who support our militaries defeat for their sick twisted political gains. >> Right . . . >> >> Go shoot a reporter. > > and a few of the radical liberals who support our militaries defeat for > their sick twisted political gains. Right. . . >No, your point is that you hate the Democrats. Dan, I don't hate anyone. I leave that to liberals because that is their only mode. But, You still haven't presented a cogent dem plan for victory. Only defeat. If the dems were to offer up their plans for all to see, it would be obvious to all that they only want to hand this country over to the murderous islamoterrorists. And EVERYONE could see it, not just the republican/conservatives that follow lib actions. >>No, your point is that you hate the Democrats. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > could see it, not just the republican/conservatives that follow lib > actions. There are no plans to victory. No Democratic plan, no Republican. Bush's stupidity has eliminated any chance of voctory. There are only plans to attempt to minimize the damage Bush has brought us. None of them are "good." They are all bad. some are worse than others. "More of the same, longer" is the worse. > There are no plans to victory. No Democratic plan, no Republican. Bush's > stupidity has eliminated any chance of voctory. There are only plans to > attempt to minimize the damage Bush has brought us. None of them are > "good." They are all bad. some are worse than others. "More of the same, > longer" is the worse. Not true. Setting a date for surrender is worse. Are you in favor of immediate withdraw? Dan Listermann has been in my twit filter for years, and it would please me a lot if the rest of you would give him the attention his hate-Bush ranting deserves. I realize his drivel is so totally outrageous and irresponsible that it's hard to ignore - but please try. The battle for Iraq is OVER. We won decisively.The war against Islaamic Jihadists rages on. Is Dan and his ilk gonna help the fight or sabotage it? The answer is obvious. Will Sill > Dan Listermann has been in my twit filter for years, and it would > please me a lot if the rest of you would give him the attention his [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the fight or sabotage it? The answer is obvious. > Will Sill Good, let get our guys home for a parade. >> There are no plans to victory. No Democratic plan, no Republican. >> Bush's stupidity has eliminated any chance of voctory. There are only [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not true. Setting a date for surrender is worse. Are you in favor of > immediate withdraw? Yes, that is the best thing for us and them. The will have their bloodbath one way or another. Postponing it will just make it worse. Bush screwed up and it is not going to get better. Tell us how to win . . . Get rid of reporters . . . > Yes, that is the best thing for us and them. The will have their bloodbath > one way or another. Pulling out instantly will surely cause the USA major problems. Saddam already caused major instabilities in the middle east. We pull out and Al Queda moves in. Good plan. >> Yes, that is the best thing for us and them. The will have their >> bloodbath one way or another. > > Pulling out instantly will surely cause the USA major problems. Saddam > already caused major instabilities in the middle east. We pull out and Al > Queda moves in. Good plan. Saddam's instabilities were nothing compared to Bush's instabilities. Get real . . . >> What is your plan for "victory?" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >terrorism? So far the only replies I've seen from Democrats is that >they don't like the Reps methods. No plan is worse. Also, revoke all visas for the major media and kick their a.ses out of the M-E. Tell the Congress they will receive a daily update from the President and if one word of strategy or planning leaks, the leaker will be found, tried for treason and shot! Then, let the military do its job. Someone commented about "friendly muslims" in a post. Ain't so such thing. With few exceptions, they are supportive of the Jihad against free society. Those that claim against it will revert as soon as the 'pig devils' establish the footholds. I predict the world will be under the control of the sand bastards from the ME unless they are caught and destroyed. And soon. > Also, revoke all visas for the major media and kick their a.ses out of > the M-E. Now that I agree with. It was just plain dumb to allow embedded journalists in with the troops. If they want to cover the war they do so on their own at their own risk. They military should not have to deal with them at all. They got their own job to worry about. > Tell the Congress they will receive a daily update from the > President and if one word of strategy or planning leaks, the leaker > will be found, tried for treason and shot! Then, let the military do > its job. So true. The media as well as politicians have leaked way too much to our enemies and gotten away with it. > Someone commented about "friendly muslims" in a post. Ain't so such > thing. In general I don't believe the muslim population at large supports terrorist attacks on innocent civilians. What suprises me though is the complete lack of voice from the American Muslim community speaking out against such attacks. Their own religion is being hijacked and torn apart and yet they don't rise up against it. All I've heard is weak statements saying they denounce such violence. >> The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg >> Iran to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. > > What is your plan for "victory?" Peace through surrender. The mantra of the new Democratic party. The above opinions are those of a high strung, heavily armed, caffeine dependent semi-psycho going through nicotine withdrawals. If you got a problem with them, see me in person, leave my employer out of it. >Peace through surrender. The mantra of the new Democratic party. The ghost of Neville Chamberlain roams .............. Steve > The ghost of Neville Chamberlain roams .............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w77sLtz754 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE&mode=related&search= >>> The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg >>> Iran to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. >> >> What is your plan for "victory?" > > Peace through surrender. The mantra of the new Democratic party. Bush put us up to a stupid war. Stupid wars have a low success rate. >>>> The Democrats have already surrendered. They sent Nancy Pelosi to beg >>>> Iran to support the Democrat party and the leftist turncoats. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Bush put us up to a stupid war. Stupid wars have a low success rate. Thanks for proving my point so quick. "Peace through surrender." The mantra of the new Democratic party. > A Nevada resident was killed Monday when the bicycle he was riding was > struck on US Highway 93 in Northern Arizona. The name of the adult male and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Las Vegas Review-Journal May 9, 2007 A helmet would have done what? Unless it a new design equipped with an ejection rocket of course. Then his head would have been safely tossed free? The truck driver will have nightmares for a while. My condolences to the Rider's Family and the Driver. S--- happens negligence or whatever doesn't matter. >> A Nevada resident was killed Monday when the bicycle he was riding was >> struck on US Highway 93 in Northern Arizona. The name of the adult male [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > S--- happens negligence or whatever doesn't matter. And on that sad note, Diego Coralles (sp?) was killed yesterday here in Las Vegas. A professional boxer of international fame, and apparently a good guy who was spoken of highly by his friends, neighbors, and at least one police officer I know. |
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