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Changing House Batteries

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dwk - 13 May 2007 21:49 GMT
The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their age,
they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current batteries are
two 12 v.Trojan's........they are rated at 85 AH at 20 hrs.  I'm going to be
dry camping at the NASCAR race in Dover so I should change them beforehand.
When these batteries were fresh they were sufficient in power for me so an
equal replacement would suit me fine but a few more amps would be better.
These batteries don't list a size group but are approx. 6 X 10 X 9 in high.
I have room for a battery about an 1 1/2 longer......there is plenty of
expansion room for with and height.

Trojans have a top reputation but are they the best?  There is no dealer
very near to me and it would be a lot easier to go to Sears and get a pair
of good Diehards.  Maybe Optima Blue Tops would be an option but they don't
look like they have as much reserve power.  Any opinions??

Changing looks simple........disconnect the negatives first and then the
positive and R&R after cleaning the connectors......any glitches to
avoid?????

Thanks for any info
Dave in Lake Villa - 14 May 2007 00:24 GMT
Trojan now offers their 12 v. J150 super RV battery.  Google 'Trojan
J150' for the specs and physical dimensions ;  i have two of them and
they are powerful and long lasting.  Excellent for boondocking.
Dave in Lake Villa - 14 May 2007 00:27 GMT
Here...see if they will fit in your space :

Trojan Deep Cycle 12 Volt Battery (J150): eBatteriesToGo
Address:http://ebatteriestogo.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_C
Will Sill - 14 May 2007 01:37 GMT
I see where "dwk" <dwkdwk@comcast.net> contributed:
>The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their age,
>they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current batteries are
>two 12 v.Trojan's........they are rated at 85 AH at 20 hrs.  

Consider a pair of 6v golf car batteries in series for more AH.  Check
dimensions first - they are a bit taller.

Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
Shad O'Shay - 14 May 2007 02:38 GMT
> The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
> age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
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>
> Thanks for any info

A safety hint is in order. Usually you trade in the old batteries when
you buy the new ones. This saves you paying a core charge. But turning
in old batteries that are still holding a charge is dangerous to all
concerned as any short between the positive and negative poles might
produce a dangerous spark.

To avoid this danger you can remove the batteries and place them
side-by-side.
First wire all the negative posts together. Then wire all the positive
posts together. Then discharge all the batteries at the same time by
connecting just one positive post to one negative post with a thick
wire. Have some gasoline handy to spray on the batteries in case they
seem to be getting very hot. Gasoline evaporates very fast and hence it
cools things down fast. Also, it is best to do this inside your RV.

Shad O'Shay
mrehmus - 14 May 2007 05:29 GMT
> > The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
> > age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
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> - Show quoted text -

Really really bad suggestion. So bad I think you are, on purpose,
hoping to hurt someone.
Shame on you. There is a limit between enjoying an argument with
people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your humanity.
HD Matt - 14 May 2007 14:03 GMT
> > > The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
> > > age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> Shame on you. There is a limit between enjoying an argument with
> people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your humanity.

Ignore him, he's an a.shole.

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Lone Haranguer - 14 May 2007 14:42 GMT
>>>>The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
>>>>age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
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>
> Ignore him, he's an a.shole.

You forgot the words "world class".
LZ
HDinNY - 14 May 2007 18:31 GMT
>>>>> The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
>>>>> age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
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> You forgot the words "world class".
> LZ

Kinda guy if he was passing you on his bike, it'd be fun to stick a cane
in his front spokes and watch him fly through the air <lmao>.
Hugh
HD Matt - 15 May 2007 13:27 GMT
> <Snip>
> >>people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your humanity.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> You forgot the words "world class".
> LZ

World Class a.shole Wrapped in Spandex!

That better? ;-)

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Lone Haranguer - 15 May 2007 14:43 GMT
>><Snip>
>>
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>
> That better? ;-)

Lots.
LZ
Neon John - 14 May 2007 14:26 GMT
>> "dwk" <dwk...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> A safety hint is in order. Usually you trade in the old batteries when
>> you buy the new ones. This saves you paying a core charge. But turning
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Shame on you. There is a limit between enjoying an argument with
>people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your humanity.

One wonders how hard your mama had to drop you on your head to totally remove your
sense of humor.  That's called tongue-in-cheek dry humor. Get a clue, fella.

John
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HDinNY - 14 May 2007 18:32 GMT
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> One wonders how hard your mama had to drop you on your head to totally remove your
> sense of humor.  That's called tongue-in-cheek dry humor. Get a clue, fella.
>
> John

Not when it's this "Shad" a.shole. Just filter the bastard.
Hugh
mrehmus - 15 May 2007 06:00 GMT
> >> "dwk" <dwk...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> A safety hint is in order. Usually you trade in the old batteries when
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> - Show quoted text -

Sorry but I don't see it that way, John. You are reading Shad's
'advice' with the knowledge of the taunting that has been the feature
of other threads.

There is nothing in this thread that would lead anyone to believe it
is anything but advice. Criminally dangerous advice since there are
people out there who don't understand electricity and might take it as
good advice and be hurt. Should somone actually follow the advice,
Shad could be held criminally responsible. Certainly he would lose a
lot in any civil suit.

Not a hypocrite, Shad. Just concerned that you are, perhaps
inadvertantly, taking your byplay with other folks on this group and
advocating a truly dangerous act. Burning a RV might have been your
dream but exploding batteries blinding people would be the result of
your advise should anyone follow it. Did you really mean to invite
that type of accident to people who are innocent of your interplay
with some RVers???? I would hope not.
Neon John - 15 May 2007 11:53 GMT
>> >> Shad O'Shay- Hide quoted text -
>>
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>'advice' with the knowledge of the taunting that has been the feature
>of other threads.

I have no idea who this Shad character is and have seen none of his posts before.

>There is nothing in this thread that would lead anyone to believe it
>is anything but advice. Criminally dangerous advice since there are
>people out there who don't understand electricity and might take it as
>good advice and be hurt. Should somone actually follow the advice,
>Shad could be held criminally responsible. Certainly he would lose a
>lot in any civil suit.

You're kidding, right?  Are you so totally bereft of both common sense and a sense of
humor that you can't tell that "advice" to parallel batteries, short them out and
then cool them with gasoline is anything other than tongue-in-cheek humor?  If that's
the case then I pity anyone who has to be around you.  It must be an excruciating
experience.

As for anyone getting hurt, if there really is someone who would actually take that
as advice then I pray that he wins the Darwin award, for he certainly deserves it.  I
pray that he wins the award BEFORE he reproduces.

John
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HDinNY - 15 May 2007 14:02 GMT
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> You're kidding, right?  Are you so totally bereft of both common sense and a sense of
> humor that you can't tell that "advice" to parallel batteries, short them out and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> John

Stuff it John. This biker wannabe is an a.shole of the first degree. He
apparently has a grudge against rvr's and his posts need to be filtered.
It would be interesting to find out if it really isn't *a.s in disguise.
In any case Sh** means to injure us.
Hugh
Dean - 15 May 2007 20:26 GMT
>snipped
>> You're kidding, right?  Are you so totally bereft of both common sense and a sense of
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>In any case Sh** means to injure us.
>Hugh

Oh Gawd, I had forgotten all about *a.s.  You had to bring up that
idiot.  I bet it is him, the styles are so parallel.
Robert Bonomi - 15 May 2007 15:19 GMT
>>> >> Shad O'Shay- Hide quoted text -
>>>
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>then cool them with gasoline is anything other than tongue-in-cheek
>humor?

It was _humor_??   *HUMOR*????

Oh DAMN!!!!!!!!

I spent most of yesterday pulling the due-for-replacement batteries
out of the whole-building UPS, and setting them up for safety treatment
on the back lot.  I've even got the wiring harness all built -- nice 400k c.m.
stranded cable.

I even had a a videographer lined up to tape the entire proceedings, for a
safety training campaign.

The only thing holding up the project was making arrangements for Mr. O'Shay
to _personally_ demonstrate his techniques.

And now you have the _nerve_ to say it was 'just' humor?

Sheesh!

Getting Shad to demonstrate the technique seemed like a reasonable way to
'extinguish' several issues with the whole matter.  :)
Dean - 15 May 2007 20:07 GMT
>>> >> Shad O'Shay- Hide quoted text -
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>John
>---

John, Shad has been harassing this forum for 2-3 months with totally
ridiculous accusations of RVers and other subjects.  He babbles to see
his posts responded to and for no other reason.  Remember God put
limits on man's intellect.  He put NO such lower boundary on man's
stupidity!  Shad rests confortably in my twit filter along with da oz.

Dean
Neon John - 15 May 2007 22:23 GMT
>John, Shad has been harassing this forum for 2-3 months with totally
>ridiculous accusations of RVers and other subjects.  He babbles to see
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Dean

OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...  When I detect even
the faintest hint of twit-ism, that person goes in the filter.  I probably filtered
him without even noticing the name.  Looking at my first post I see that I was
replying to someone who popped off to the fish.  I didn't see the fish's post.  Moral
of that story is, if folks wouldn't respond to twits in the first place....

John
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David The Hamster Malone - 16 May 2007 14:28 GMT
> OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...  

Hey, Gar... I think he's talking to you...?

David "The Hamster" Malone
-Gar - 16 May 2007 15:04 GMT
>> OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...  
>
> Hey, Gar... I think he's talking to you...?
>
> David "The Hamster" Malone

That's the height of discrimination..  I've
lived with it all my life...

 [Well, actually, since you hung it on me]

A damn Shad pisses off ol NJ so he "plonks"
all  posters with a 'garbage fish' name..

Wunner what Jerry Falwell would of thought of
a guy hike that??

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David The Hamster Malone - 16 May 2007 15:14 GMT
> Wunner what Jerry Falwell would of thought of
> a guy hike that??

Judging by his shape, I doubt very much that ol' Jerry ever went on a
hike....

David "The Hamster" Malone
dm_callier - 16 May 2007 16:07 GMT
On May 16, 8:14 am, David The Hamster Malone <mal...@ca.ibm.com>
wrote:

> > Wunner what Jerry Falwell would of thought of
> > a guy hike that??
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>
> David "The Hamster" Malone

Yeah, looks like he had sloth, gluttony, pride, and greed pretty well
covered...no time for hiking :)
David Gee - 16 May 2007 17:36 GMT
>>> OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...
>>
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>
> Wunner what Jerry Falwell would of thought of a guy hike that??

Are you related to my daughter's Geography teacher?
Guy by the name of "Pike"?
Robert Bonomi - 16 May 2007 20:40 GMT
>>>> OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Are you related to my daughter's Geography teacher?
>Guy by the name of "Pike"?

I hope his first name Wasn't Wally.
-Gar - 17 May 2007 01:35 GMT
>>>> OK, that explains it.  Anyone with the name of a garbage fish...
>>> Hey, Gar... I think he's talking to you...?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Are you related to my daughter's Geography teacher?
> Guy by the name of "Pike"?

I know him but we're not related...  Thank
heavens, Pike is so full of rubbish it's not
funny...

I bet NJ will hunt him down and "plonk" him..

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Shad O'Shay - 14 May 2007 16:22 GMT
>> > The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing
>> > their
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> people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your
> humanity.

Several people have threatened to run over and kill cyclists with their
RVs on purpose (in alt.rv). They laugh and brag about "pancaking" and
"road kill. and ear drum-bursting high decibel horns" One w.nker even
assigns points - the farther you can knock a cyclist off the road the
higher your points. And not one single solitary person has said. "Enough
already, that's not funny."

So, when I turn the tables with a suggestion that could lead to an RV
burning up (Glory!!!), what happens? Oh horrors! I'm some kind of an
inhuman monster. Can you say hypocrite? But, then again, thank you for
showing how right I've been about homicidal maniac, moron RVers. Bunch
of freakin' crybaby bullies!

Shad O'Shay
Matt Colie - 14 May 2007 18:22 GMT
Man,
I'm glad the Shad filter works.

>>> The house batteries in my six year old diesel pusher are showing their
>>> age, they just don't hold a charge like they used to.  My current
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> Shame on you. There is a limit between enjoying an argument with
> people and attempting to hurt someone. One wonders about your humanity.

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