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Shad O'Shay - 17 May 2007 22:44 GMT
For some time now, I've been writing posts here that are grounded on two
key principles:

 1.. RVers obsess not with what they can do for this country but with
what it can extract from it, and
 2.. no matter how much RVers squirm and wriggles they will never
escape the fact that I, speaking as someone who is not like them -
unbalanced, gin-swilling clods, am morally and ethically superior
opposed to RVer indiscretions.
I guess I should start by saying that alt.rv's scribblings and homicidal
maniac participants have created a vexatious universe devoid of logic
and evidence. Only within this universe does it make sense to say that
the rules don't apply to RVers. Only within this universe does it make
sense to assuage the hungers of RVer's sick death threat mentality with
servings of fresh scapegoats. And, only if we remove the
pollute-the-world-for-recreation mentality that RVers have can we defeat
this puerile, malignant universe and restore the world back to its
original balance. I

If nothing else, our sacred values and traditions mean nothing to RVers.
That conclusion is not based on some sort of profligate philosophy or on
RVer-style mental masturbation, but on widely known and proven
principles of science. These principles explain that if you look soberly
and carefully at the evidence all around you and here in particular, you
will unmistakably conclude you can definitely see why RVers would want
to promote group-think rationalizing over individual rights of fellow
roadway users, especially cyclists.

Almost everyone will agree that RVers would love to see highways morph
into small, transient, trailer park trash communities in which any
person who drives or rides an environmentally friendly vehicle and who
dares to condemn RVer hypocrisy quickly finds himself the object of
death threats and because of this, RVers seem to have recently added the
word "anthropomorphotheist" to their otherwise simplistic vocabulary.
(much easier for them to learn one big word than bicycle law) I suppose
they intend to use big words like that to obscure the fact that there is
little doubt that they will cause this country to flounder on the shoals
of selfishness, filthy air, and higher fuel prices before the year is
over.

Believe me, I would give everything I own to be wrong on that point, but
the truth is that RVer's latest manifesto, like all the ones that
preceded it, is a consummate anthology of disastrously antisocial bully
behavior teeming with profanity and homicidal fantasies, an odyssey of
anecdotes that are occasionally entertaining, but more often true
revelations of their hatred of cyclists whom they know full well use the
roads in a more responsible manner and don't pollute the air at all.  In
hearing about RVer's shell games, one gets the distinct impression that
if we look beyond Rver's delusions of grandeur, we see that it's within
reason to tell any objective, fellow, RVer-hating comrades a little bit
about them and their sick, savage and perverse animadversions.

Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent
past already.

Instead, just shut your pie holes and be grateful for this first and
last tidbit of insight into the RVer warped psyche. That being the way
RVers demand instant gratification of their individual selfish desires
while raping the planet. Hedonism! That's all that concerns to them;
nothing else matters -- except maybe to tour the country promoting
reckless recidivism and dangerous, homicidal bully driving tactics. I
tell you this because if it weren't for frowzy, morally crippled
monkey-see/monkey-doers, RVers would have no friends outside their
irresponsible community of self-gratification over all else losers.

Unfortunately, RVer's hostile, unprincipled, threatening posts neglect
to take one important factor into consideration: human nature. If you
ask RVers in person if it's true that cyclists aren't particularly fond
of you jerks who use RVs as a weapon, you'll just get a lot of
foot-shuffling and downcast eyes in response. In other words too
weak-spined to threaten and bully in person where you just might get
your sorry a.ses kicked. Much safer to do so where you can hit and run.

RVers are trying to hide something. But, their sociopathic tendencies
reveal themselves in spite of their best efforts to hide them. I don't
know exactly what, but if it's going to take an emotional appeal, then
it should also include a rational argument to get them to mend their
ways. There is something patently abusive in the notion that no one is
smart enough to see through RVer's transparent lies. So I give you this
letter. I hope it helps.

Shad O'Shay
Lone Haranguer - 17 May 2007 23:40 GMT
Shad O'Shay wrote: So I give you this
> letter. I hope it helps.
>  >
> Shad O'Shay

Locally, various groups have spent a fortune on bike trails catering to
bicycle enthusiasts.  The state, the county, the towns along the trail,
a conglomeraration of civic groups plus many individuals who don't even
own a bicycle have contributed.

Plush bathrooms, picnic tables, shelters, drinking fountains, viewing
towers, all built for the pleasure and convenience of bikers.

Where is your effing gratitude?  What has been done in your area for
RVers?  Does your town sponsor a dump station or overnight rest area?

No?  Well get off your lazy a.s and make it happen, Pooky.
LZ
Al Balmer - 17 May 2007 23:49 GMT
>For some time now, I've been writing posts here that are grounded on two
>key principles:

Not here (r.o.r.t), you haven't. In the last ten days (my purge
period), your score is one post about batteries, and two off topic
rants. Maybe you should give up cross-posting.

Signature

Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ

Jeff Deeney - 17 May 2007 23:50 GMT
> Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
> so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent past
> already.
It is not likely that I shall say anything new here. If I do, it will be of
only minor significance. Nevertheless, letting Shad O'Shay tinker about with
a lot of halfway prescriptions sends a clear message to tasteless half-wits
that they can make serious dialogue difficult or impossible. What follows is
a set of observations I have made about offensive fence-sitters. I clearly
gainsay his notion that women are crazed Pavlovian sex-dogs who will
salivate at any object even remotely phallic in shape. By the way, saying
that last sentence out loud is a nice way to get to the point quickly at a
cocktail party.

It will be objected, to be sure, that Shad doesn't honestly want to organize
a whispering campaign against me. At first glance, this may seem to be true,
but when you think about it further, you'll decidedly conclude that his
grand plan is to clear forests, strip the topsoil, and turn a natural
paradise into a dust bowl through a self-induced drought. I'm sure Mao Tse
Tung would approve. In any case, on a television program last night, I heard
one of this country's top scientists conclude that, "Shad is caught up in an
irrational belief about his own powers and abilities." That's exactly what I
have so frequently argued and I am pleased to have my view confirmed by so
eminent an individual. He will stigmatize any and all attempts to compile
readers' remarks and suggestions and use them to put an end to his evildoing
before you know it -- not necessarily by direct action, but by convincing
his secret police to teach inerudite concepts to children. My dream is for
tired eyes to open and see clearly, broken spirits to find new energy, and
weary arms to find the strength to reveal the constant tension between
centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting
from Shad's catch-phrases. As we all know, Shad always tries to rationalize
his conjectures with compelling gobbledegook about some "greater good".

Of course, Shad would have us believe that it is not only acceptable, but
indeed desirable, to use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the
passions of gruesome pissants. Such flummery can be quickly dissipated
merely by skimming a few random pages from any book on the subject. Someone
just showed me a memo supposedly written by Shad. The memo spells out his
plans to replace discourse and open dialogue with splenetic manuscripts and
blatant ugliness. If this memo is authentic, it tells us that I shall not
argue that Shad's newsgroup postings are an authentic map of his plan to woo
over tendentious profiteers by using tactics such as scapegoating,
reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory
of history. Read them and see for yourself. The ultimate aim of his projects
is to restructure society as a pyramid with Shad at the top, Shad's
accomplices directly underneath, wayward ranters beneath them, and the rest
of at the bottom. This new societal structure will enable Shad to stand in
the way of progress, which makes me realize that documents written by his
compeers typically include the line, "Shad never engages in crapulous,
incomprehensible, or purblind politics", in large, 30-point type, as if the
size of the font gives weight to the words. In reality, all that that fancy
formatting really does is underscore the fact that those of us whose minds
are not narcotized still remember Shad's frequent outbreaks of savagery. If
you don't believe me, see for yourself.

It's quite easy for Shad to declaim my proposals. But when is he going to
provide an alternative proposal of his own? I once asked Shad that
question -- I am still waiting for an answer. In the meantime, let me point
out that Shad can fool some of the people all of the time. He can fool all
of the people some of the time. But he can't fool all of the people all of
the time. He says that all any child needs is a big dose of television every
day. You know, he can lie as much as he wants but he can't change the facts.
If he could, he'd unquestionably prevent anyone from hearing that his
animadversions do not represent progress. They represent insanity
masquerading as progress.

Anyone with an IQ two points higher than a wet sponge's knows that I find
Shad's epithets symptomatic of a dangerous but spreading mentality. But,
even so, Shad says that people are pawns to be used and manipulated. But
then he turns around and says that one can understand the elements of a
scientific theory only by reference to the social condition and personal
histories of the scientists involved. You know, you can't have it both ways,
Shad.

Shad once said that he's merely trying to make this world a better place in
which to live. Oh, please. I'm just glad I hadn't eaten dinner right before
I heard him say that. Otherwise, I'd probably still be vomiting too hard to
tell you that either Shad has no real conception of the sweep of history, or
he is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole
in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. It may seem to many
people, maybe even the majority, that some of his arrogant, goofy
dissertations are so self-contradictory, they're their own refutation.
That's self-evident, and even Shad would probably agree with me on that.
Even so, "Shad" has now become part of my vocabulary. Whenever I see someone
construct the spectre of a terrible armed threat, I tell him or her to stop
"Shad-ing". He says he's going to turn a deaf ear to need and suffering as
soon as our backs are turned. Is he out of his stinking mind? The answer is
fairly obvious when you consider that if he thinks that he can make me
stampede into the abattoir, then he's barking up the wrong tree.

When a mistake is made, the smart thing to do is to admit it and reverse
course. That takes real courage. The way that Shad stubbornly refuses to own
up to his mistakes serves only to convince me that even if one isn't
completely conversant with current events, the evidence overwhelmingly
indicates that he not only lies, but he brags about his lying to his
cohorts. The theoretical fallacies in Shad's codices run deep. But you knew
that already. So let me add that if we're to effectively carry out our
responsibilities and make a future for ourselves, we will first have to face
our problems realistically, get to the root of our problems, and be
determined to solve them.

Daily, the truth is being impressed upon us that if Shad can one day make
our country spiritually blind, then the long descent into night is sure to
follow. He should not glamorize drug usage. Not now, not ever. How I pity
Shad if I were to be his judge. I would start by notifying the jury that
today, we might have let Shad stir up trouble. Tomorrow, we won't. Instead,
we will reinforce notions of positive self esteem.

The point at which you discover that covinous knee-biters demand the
advantages other people have earned without the disadvantages, like having
to earn them is not only a moment of disenchantment. It is a moment of
resolve, a determination that some of us have an opportunity to come in
contact with politically incorrect carousers on a regular basis at work or
in school. We, therefore, may be able to gain some insight into the way they
think, into their values; we may be able to understand why they want to put
a homophobic, impractical spin on important issues. Shad's stooges say that
nothing would help society more than for them to turn back the clock and
repeal all the civil rights and anti-discrimination legislation now on the
books. Sorry, I don't buy that. Unless Shad provides unequivocal evidence to
the contrary, I will continue to aver that he throws a temper tantrum every
time I suggest that as untrustworthy as it might sound, he consistently
falls short of telling the whole story or of making a solid point. Let me
try to explain what I mean by that in a single sentence: There's no shortage
of sin in the world today. It's been around since the Garden of Eden and
will surely persist as long as Shad continues to turn peaceful gatherings
into embarrassing scandals.

Now that I've been exposed to Shad's hariolations, I must admit that I don't
completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps
Shad's hangers-on insist that "my bitterness at Shad is merely the latent
projection of libidinal energy stemming from self-induced anguish." First
off, that's a lousy sentence. If they had written that Shad would have you
believe that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be
enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters, then that quote
would have had more validity. As it stands, I've heard him say that his
mistakes are always someone else's fault. Was that just a slip of the lip or
is Shad secretly trying to dress up his profit motive in the cloak of
selfless altruism? A complete answer to that question would take more space
than I can afford, so I'll have to give you a simplified answer. For
starters, he likes thinking thoughts that aren't burdensome and that feel
good. That's why Shad believes that the cure for evil is more evil. That's
just wrong. He further believes that he does the things he does "for the
children". Wrong again! Never mind that Shad believes, in his elitist
delirium, that the Earth is flat. What's really important is that for the
nonce, he is content to contaminate clear thinking with his power-drunk,
balmy put-downs. But some day, he will usher in the rule of the Antichrist
and the apocalyptic end times. The recent outrage at Shad O'Shay's anecdotes
may point to a brighter future. For now, however, I must leave you knowing
that there is no longer any room for hope.
Al Balmer - 18 May 2007 01:51 GMT
>> Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
>> so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent past
>> already.
>It is not likely that I shall say anything new here. If I do, it will be of

Now, I'm confused. Newbies on r.o.r.t. who complain about all the
off-topic, vitriolic posts are often advised to go to alt.rv, where
everything is friendly, on topic, and otherwise peachy. Now comes the
Shadowy O'Shay and his friends to disprove it. Now what do we tell the
complainers?

Signature

Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ

HDinNY - 18 May 2007 02:02 GMT
>>>Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
>>>so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent past
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Shadowy O'Shay and his friends to disprove it. Now what do we tell the
> complainers?

Quit responding to the puke.
Hugh
Max - 18 May 2007 04:03 GMT
"Al Balmer"  wrote
Jeff Deeney"
wrote:

>>> Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
>>> so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Shadowy O'Shay and his friends to disprove it. Now what do we tell the
> complainers?

We could tell them where to go................but it might not be another
NG.

Max
Neon John - 18 May 2007 12:01 GMT
>>> Stop your threats and don't dare respond to this post because ,by doing
>>> so, you'll prove my points like you have so many times in the recent past
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Shadowy O'Shay and his friends to disprove it. Now what do we tell the
>complainers?

You could tell 'em the same thing my mama told me when I was oh, maybe 6 years old.
"Grow up and learn to ignore what you don't like."  That's great advice for certain
adults too.

I do wonder why you and a few others feel the need to reply to everything this guy
posts.  I'd not know he even existed but for people like you who insist on getting
down in the mud and wallowing with him.  Remember that old addage about not
mud-wrestling a pig?  You know, "You always get dirty and the pig enjoys it."

John
---
John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
Cleveland, Occupied TN
Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill.
Al Balmer - 18 May 2007 22:43 GMT
>"Grow up and learn to ignore what you don't like."

Think about that.

Signature

Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ

Mike Garcia - 26 May 2007 09:33 GMT
balh, blah, blah, blah, blah.............

Hey, Deeney, isn't there a TEN MILLION WORD LIMIT to posts in this
group?
RonB - 18 May 2007 01:11 GMT
Damn!

Super Troll! At least in his mind.

Too bad he doesn't have an idea in hell what RV'ing is all about.

RonB
Technobarbarian - 18 May 2007 01:52 GMT
> For some time now, I've been writing posts here that are grounded on two
> key principles:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> maniac participants have created a vexatious universe devoid of logic and
> evidence.
[Big Sniparoo]
> RVers are trying to hide something. But, their sociopathic tendencies
> reveal themselves in spite of their best efforts to hide them. I don't
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> enough to see through RVer's transparent lies. So I give you this letter.
> I hope it helps.

    ROFLOL I'll give you a C+ for wild use of the English language.
Unfortunately your grade was pulled down by failing grades in: logic,
clarity, lucidity, sanity..........take your pick. Do you have a point? Come
on now, you can do it. Just concentrate real hard. What's your point?

    And once you figure that out maybe you can 'splain to me what an "RVer"
is? I meeeeeeean....I mean......., here I am: I've done just about anything
you can think of on the highway, and some things you couldn't even imagine.
I've walked, skipped, ran, drove many different types of vehicles, biked,
snowshoed, dog sledded, slept, driven an RV, on and on, on the highway. Am I
only an RVer now? In your strange universe do I hate myself when I'm on a
bike, even though I've covered more ground with a bike under my a.s than
most folks? Can I never be a bicyclist again? Or perhaps now I'm some odd
hybrid that can't exist in your universe: a walkbikerunridedrivehopper?

   Too funny.

TB
Dude - 18 May 2007 07:36 GMT
    I have been writing here for a long time. I really haven't paid a lot
of attention to bicycle riders. Women are on a mission, and the men are
posturing and acting like a whistler in a bus station rest room.  Women
don't seem to ride as often or as far as men because they are less
likely to be seeking others wearing Spandex. Women bike riders only ride
far enough to be noticed by neighbors, and wear clothing only brief
enough to show the tattoos around their ankles and thighs. It does
appear that they are trolling for truck driving women who like to drink
Boiler Makers and go bowling.
    Men who ride bicycles, use the opportunity to go out in public wearing
Spandex shorts, and often shave their legs. Supposedly, shaving the legs
allows faster speeds when peddling a bicycle (less wind resistance), but
probably is a signal to other men who shave their legs that there won't
be any other type of resistance either. Further proof is that they bend
over often, making it appear as if they are fixing a chain. This allows
the Spandex to stretch and show that they don't have hemorrhoids. Many
of the male bicyclists glow from an oil rubdown to make it appear that
they are all sweaty from exertion. I suppose that in some bicycle riding
circles this is "in", and that oily bare male legs attract other oily
bare male legs. Sweat and oil must broadcast pheromones to other male
bike riders. Spandex shorts must make the bike riders butt look more
inviting when they are cruising public parks.
    Occasionally, a man who is only masquerading as a bike rider will drive
his yellow or red Miata convertible to a store, and parade around in
Spandex short shorts with shaved legs, and running shoes. That routine
makes it appear that he has been exerting himself in some  secret
masculine manner that is  known only to homos who think they are James
Bond. They should remember that wearing Spandex is a privilege, not a
right, and that tucking a sock into their crotch doesn't make other men
jealous, it makes women and children leave the store to hurl.
Bicycle riders also have the opportunity forgone by others, that of
smelling others' bicycle seats outside of Starbucks. The more miles you
ride, the more bicycle seats you will find. Placing an "O" between a
"Shad" and a "Shay" is kind of Freudian, don't ya' think?
Shad O'Shay - 18 May 2007 17:49 GMT
> I have been writing here for a long time. I really haven't paid a lot
> of attention to bicycle riders. Women are on a mission, and the men
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> you ride, the more bicycle seats you will find. Placing an "O" between
> a "Shad" and a "Shay" is kind of Freudian, don't ya' think?

So funny I forgot to laugh! Doh!

Hey, Dude, mister big shot, you know nothing. Nothing at all. You're
lumping recreational cyclists together with us pros and what they do and
what we do are different and for different reasons.

We professionals shave our legs to make for more comfortable pre and
post race massage sessions. It's got nothing to do with speed. Deep
muscle massage is a valuable tool to relax the muscles and help rid them
of lactic acid after a hard training session or a race. When you ride
over two thousand miles in stages over a three week period and climb
elevations of 200,000 feet all told (In you're freakin' dreams, Dude!)
then come and tell me how good it feels to get a massage that yanks leg
hair out.

Pros wear mostly bibs (shorts are passé) made from a variety of
materials. Bibs allow the stomach to expand easier for proper breathing
technique. Our bibs cost from 200 to 300 bucks a pop and are worth every
cent over the long haul. Spandex is the cheap support material for the
masses. We pros use the higher tech stuff. It's for muscle support and
comfort and the wicking away of sweat - not for attracting latent
homosexuals like yourself. You just seem to be very preoccupied with the
anal area of other men. Maybe it's time for you to come out of the
closet? Here's something you might be interested in:
http://bjland.ws/blog/bikeshorts_a.JPG

As for me, I'd rather look at something like this:
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/babes/babes06/ibike06-miss4.jpg

And one other thing . . . We pros make more in five years than you make
in a lifetime so try not to act too superior there, Bubba. I don't know
about most people, but a career driving a truck or flipping burgers or
riding on the back of a garbage truck isn't for me. Nope, I'll happily
use my superior body and superior strength and superior endurance to
earn a superior living. When unfit, unhealthy, and unwise people like
you open your pie holes you only embarrass yourselves. Don't you realize
how ignorant it makes you appear spouting off about something you know
less about than your own personal hygiene?

Shad O'Shay
The Studmuffin Troll - 18 May 2007 20:36 GMT
\|||/
       (o o)
,----ooO--(_)-------.
|    Dude Is A     |
| Dumb Bastard! |
-------------------------
       |__|__|
         || ||
     ooO Ooo

        \|||/
       (o o)
,----ooO--(_)-------.
|    Dude Is A     |
| Dumb Bastard! |
-------------------------
       |__|__|
         || ||
     ooO Ooo

        \|||/
       (o o)
,----ooO--(_)-------.
|    Dude Is A     |
| Dumb Bastard! |
-------------------------
       |__|__|
         || ||
     ooO Ooo
Dude - 18 May 2007 20:37 GMT
> So funny I forgot to laugh! Doh!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> We professionals shave our legs to make for more comfortable pre and
> post race massage sessions.

I knew that you guys had to be giving each other massages. Do you use
perfumed oils?

It's got nothing to do with speed. Deep
> muscle massage is a valuable tool to relax the muscles and help rid them
> of lactic acid after a hard training session or a race. When you ride
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> closet? Here's something you might be interested in:
> http://bjland.ws/blog/bikeshorts_a.JPG

You have the butt buddy resource URLS right at your finger tips, huh?
Pun intended.

> As for me, I'd rather look at something like this:
> http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/babes/babes06/ibike06-miss4.jpg
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Shad O'Shay

But.(pun intended)...don't you guys pass on a lot of bacterial
infections by smelling each others' bicycle seats?
Maybe when you save enough of your bicycling earnings, you will be able
to afford an RV and get out of the rain. Who knows? Maybe you will find
another guy with a superior shaved body, and superior strength, and
superior endurance to rub legs with.
Shad O'Shay - 18 May 2007 20:53 GMT
> Maybe when you save enough of your bicycling earnings, you will be
> able to afford an RV and get out of the rain. Who knows? Maybe you
> will find another guy with a superior shaved body, and superior
> strength, and superior endurance to rub legs with.

That's a generous offer, Dude, but I'm not interested. But, don't let
that discourage you. I'm sure there's a lot of nice, gay, RVer dudes you
can sidle up to on your RV trips. I understand many over-the-road truck
drivers swing both ways. Maybe you could try a truckstop or two? Most of
those trucker women even look like men, too. You could have your cake
and eat it too. Pun intended.

Shad O'Shay
RonB - 18 May 2007 23:16 GMT
Why is it that when I close my eyes I see some pimple-faced teenaged nerd
who lives at his pc pretending to be a noted author.

BTW, don't bet that the real O'Shay is worth more than a few of the folks
who hang here.

RonB

>> Maybe when you save enough of your bicycling earnings, you will be able
>> to afford an RV and get out of the rain. Who knows? Maybe you will find
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Shad O'Shay
Dave Lee - 19 May 2007 00:27 GMT
"Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhills@steakhouse.org> wrote in > And one other thing .
. . We pros make more in five years than you make
> in a lifetime so try not to act too superior there, Bubba.

Ohh??  Not from what I read. Please enlighten us with your actual team and
what you guys earn?? But of course, mystery rider shad can not disclose
this, he is restricted by some draconian contract.
LOL
what a bafoon.
Dean - 19 May 2007 01:08 GMT
>"Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhills@steakhouse.org> wrote in > And one other thing .
>. . We pros make more in five years than you make
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>LOL
>what a bafoon.

That's baboon.
Shad O'Shay - 19 May 2007 20:08 GMT
> "Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhills@steakhouse.org> wrote in > And one other
> thing . . . We pros make more in five years than you make
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> LOL
> what a bafoon.

Dude, you can't even spell it right! <guffaw>

Earnings vary greatly. For the upper tier athletes like Lance Armstrong
it's in the tens of millions annually. For us hardworking domestiques
who make what Lance did possible, it's a lot less but some of us earn a
million or more annually. I'm not so lucky. The year before last I only
earned 600 large and this year it's around 800 large. But, there's bonus
and incentives and endorsements. And, if you're really talented, a
chance to earn a whole lot more. One win in a stage race like the Giro
or theTour sets you up for life if you play your cards right and stay
clean.

I probably get more from the adverts on my jersey than most of you
working stiffs earn toiling as a laborer for a whole year. So enjoy your
poor man's land yacht pollution machines. I'll not be bothered by you
any time soon what with the racing through Sept. and then a month or so
vacation aboard a real RV - my Swan 68 in the Med. If you really want to
know who I am check the standings in the Giro. You'll find my name among
the top 40 riders as of yesterday.

Shad O'Shay
Dude - 20 May 2007 07:53 GMT
>> LOL
>> what a bafoon.
>
> Dude, you can't even spell it right! <guffaw>

I didn't write baffoon. I would have written, "What an a.shole."

> Earnings vary greatly. For the upper tier athletes like Lance Armstrong
> it's in the tens of millions annually. For us hardworking domestiques
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>
> Shad O'Shay

I'll bet each one of you earns $600,000 - $800,000 per year too! wow,
probably tax free and all the college weight lifters you can eat.
what a crock of sh.t.
An Olympic Gold Medalist, doing a Disney promo and parade with
endorsements, might make $100,000 grand before taxes. You probably have
to borrow money for an entrance fee to ride your bicycle. Top 40? I
could get closer than that in American Idol.
Dude - 20 May 2007 07:54 GMT
Without shaving my legs.
Mike Garcia - 22 May 2007 06:56 GMT
I believe I've detected a certain dosage of HOMOPHOBIA in this thread.
Shad O'Shay - 22 May 2007 15:34 GMT
>I believe I've detected a certain dosage of HOMOPHOBIA in this thread.

This guy named Dude seems to be preoccupied with gender-related issues.
He seems to think it makes men gay if they shave their legs. Never mind
there's a practical reason for it and that's to facilitate massages
which help heal the muscles after a hard day's ride. When a ProTour
cyclist competes in a stage race like the Giro for three weeks straight
massage therapy is totally necessary.

And he thinks what an athlete wears makes them gay if it's not blue
jeans and a cowboy hat, a Budweiser (sissy weak beer) in one hand and a
cigarette in the other. Never mind those cowboys in Brokeback Mountain
were gay while wearing blue jeans and cowboy hats. It tells me Dude has
deep seated latent homosexual proclivities but is afraid to explore his
hidden desires and experiment with homosexual sex. It's really too bad
because I can't imagine how any woman would be interested in a fat,
ignorant, bully couch potato like him, anyway.

I guess I should give him a break. While he drives around in his RV
looking for love he'll never find, I've got to push back the growing
hordes of horny female fans who swoon and clamor for my ripped, lean and
genetically desirable body. I bet I've had to reject over a hundred
women so far this season who want to sleep with me just because I'm such
a stud.

Shad O'Shay
Dude - 22 May 2007 19:03 GMT
>> I believe I've detected a certain dosage of HOMOPHOBIA in this thread.
>
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> cyclist competes in a stage race like the Giro for three weeks straight
> massage therapy is totally necessary.

Gender related issues have to do with grammar. You and Garcia shaving
your legs and giving each other deep muscle massages has to do with sex.
Just because a man doesn't wear Spandex and shave his legs doesn't make
him a homophobe. People who accuse others of homophobia have taken it in
the butt a few times and resent being labeled as abnormal.
Mike Garcia - 24 May 2007 05:40 GMT
> >> I believe I've detected a certain dosage of HOMOPHOBIA in this thread.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> him a homophobe. People who accuse others of homophobia have taken it in
> the butt a few times and resent being labeled as abnormal.

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Hmmmm, there he goes again.  Gee. Dude, if your thoughts are so
preoccupied with guys shaving their legs and getting rubdowns, why
don't you just head for a gay bar someplace, pick up a date and let
yourself fulfill what you apparently REALLY want in life.  Come out of
the closet, Dude.  Nobody will care, except, of course, other
homophobes, like yourself, who try to hide their true feelings.
You're gay, Dude, accept it.  We straights won't condemn you for your
alternate lifestyle.  Hey, to each his own.
Dude - 24 May 2007 07:07 GMT
> Hmmmm, there he goes again.  Gee. Dude, if your thoughts are so
> preoccupied with guys shaving their legs and getting rubdowns, why
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You're gay, Dude, accept it.  We straights won't condemn you for your
> alternate lifestyle.  Hey, to each his own.

You're the guys shaving your legs, wearing Spandex, and doing deep
muscle massages.
How does RVing and socializing with other married couples make a person
a homophobe or closeted queer? Your bicycle probably has a 5 cell
flashlight welded to the frame to sit on instead of a bicycle seat.
Mike Garcia - 24 May 2007 10:45 GMT
>   > Hmmmm, there he goes again.  Gee. Dude, if your thoughts are so> preoccupied with guys shaving their legs and getting rubdowns, why
> > don't you just head for a gay bar someplace, pick up a date and let
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> a homophobe or closeted queer? Your bicycle probably has a 5 cell
> flashlight welded to the frame to sit on instead of a bicycle seat.

666666666666666666666666666666666

I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't wear
Spandex and don't do deep muscle massages.  Why don't you quit
practicing transference  techniques and stop trying to lay your life
on me.  Like I said earlier, you're gay, you're a homosexual.  Come
out of your closet and go for it.  All the straights, including
myself, will understand and not condemn you.  No, if you tried to
masage my legs, I absolutely would not condemn you for it Dude, but I
would just blow your brains out with my .357 magnum.

And a lot of homosexuals like yourself, Dude, socialize with straights
and are even married in a misguided effort to hide and/or mask their
true yearnings.  Quit fighting your urges, I and the other straights
will understand.  We're tolerant of your needs.  That's what makes us
all good Republicans.

-MG
Dude - 24 May 2007 19:02 GMT
> I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't wear
> Spandex and don't do deep muscle massages.  Why don't you quit
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>
> -MG

I didn't think you rode a bike, I just think you wear Spandex and shave
your legs. Gee, you are vehement about homos, You know, the more you
protesteth..........Now you want to do something masculine like shoot me
with a pistol. Do you realize how Freudian that is? Do you always talk
to other men about your "pistol" when you actually mean your penis? Keep
 your pistol in your pants and stay away from schools and public parks.
Mike Garcia - 24 May 2007 22:55 GMT
> > I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't wear
> > Spandex and don't do deep muscle massages.  Why don't you quit
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> to other men about your "pistol" when you actually mean your penis? Keep
>   your pistol in your pants and stay away from schools and public parks.- Hide quoted text -
77777777777777777777777777

Well, Dude, I'm through with you.  You're simply just another ignorant
bastard that God mistakenly allowed to live at birth who has an IQ of
a fencepost.  Not much can be gained with trying to reason with
moronic fools like yourself so have a nice life with your misguided
and equally stupid friends you probably hang out with.
Into the filter for the mindless dumbass Dude who couldn't post an
intelligent offering if his walnut-sized brain squeezed and tried with
all its limited might.  You're simply pathetic, Dude, and you always
will be.  Adios, dumb f.cker (that should probably be masturbator
instead of f.cker though)..

-MG
Dude - 24 May 2007 23:20 GMT
>>> I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't wear
>>> Spandex and don't do deep muscle massages.  Why don't you quit
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>
> -MG

Gotcha
Shad O'Shay - 24 May 2007 23:30 GMT
>>>> I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't
>>>> wear
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>>
> Gotcha

I think Mike made the wrong decision. He just killfiled a vibrant source
of lame lies, seriously flawed thinking and juvenile homoerotic humor.
(not to mention tendencies).

Shad O'Shay
Dude - 31 May 2007 07:07 GMT
>>>>> I don't even ride a bike mushbrain. I don't shave my legs. don't wear
>>>>> Spandex and don't do deep muscle massages.  Why don't you quit
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Shad O'Shay

OK, I shaved my legs, bought Spandex, and some deep massage oil
(scented), what now? My wife threw me out, and when I tried on the panty
hose, my toe nail put a big run in it. I guess I'm just going to start
peddling my a.s around town until I meet O'Shay or Garcia.
The Conscience Of RORT - 31 May 2007 09:00 GMT
OK, I shaved my legs, bought Spandex, and some deep massage oil
(scented), what now?

I guess I'm just going to start peddling my a.s around town. Someone
is bound to meet my price for sex despite the fact I'm one ugly, gay
f.cker.

777777777777777777777777

Well, Dude, we straights are finally glad you decided to pop out of
the closet and realize your true leanings.  We won't criticize you,
just don't try to hang out with the straights anymore.  You're on the
"other side" now, boy.

-TCOR
Dude - 31 May 2007 10:05 GMT
> OK, I shaved my legs, bought Spandex, and some deep massage oil
> (scented), what now?
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>
> -TCOR

Well, not yet! I've got to get one of those deep muscle massages these
two give each other.
The Conscience Of RORT - 02 Jun 2007 07:24 GMT
> > OK, I shaved my legs, bought Spandex, and some deep massage oil
> > (scented), what now?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Well, not yet! I've got to get one of those deep muscle massages these
> two give each other.

0000000000000000000000000000

Dude, just self-fondle like you've been doing for years since no woman
would ever touch a little-boy-like body like yours.  That will
probably be all the "muscle" (and that's a stretch calling your little
AAA battery dick a muscle---lol) massaging you will ever get until you
find a boyfriend to do it for you.  The straights of the world Dude
are so happy you've finally come out of the closet.  Now we don't have
to recognize you as one of us anymore and suffer the resultant
embarrassment.  Have a GREAT life gayboy.
Dude - 02 Jun 2007 08:03 GMT
> Dude, just self-fondle like you've been doing for years since no woman
> would ever touch a little-boy-like body like yours.  That will
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to recognize you as one of us anymore and suffer the resultant
> embarrassment.  Have a GREAT life gayboy.

I've given up the Spandex and leg shaving. Everyone thought I was a
queer. Why do you guys sit on fire hydrants?
The Conscience of RORT - 02 Jun 2007 10:22 GMT
> I've given up the Spandex and leg shaving. Everyone thought I was a
> queer.

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So, what's the problem?  You ARE a queer.  The people are right.
What's your prob, Bob?
Dude - 03 Jun 2007 07:47 GMT
>> I've given up the Spandex and leg shaving. Everyone thought I was a
>> queer.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So, what's the problem?  You ARE a queer.  The people are right.
> What's your prob, Bob?

You Bitch! I could scratch your eyes out!!
Dude - 22 May 2007 19:00 GMT
> I believe I've detected a certain dosage of HOMOPHOBIA in this thread.

Another leg shaver heard from.
Dean - 19 May 2007 01:06 GMT
>    I have been writing here for a long time. I really haven't paid a lot
>of attention to bicycle riders. Women are on a mission, and the men are
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>ride, the more bicycle seats you will find. Placing an "O" between a
>"Shad" and a "Shay" is kind of Freudian, don't ya' think?

You know how a bike rider knows he is getting AIDS?

He has a 'pounding' sensation in his a.s.  Right chad?
 
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