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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / May 2007

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Can one person hitch up to a trailer??

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twice.redeemed@gmail.com - 18 May 2007 17:12 GMT
I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
it difficult because when I back up the SUV, I can't get the ball
directly under the coupler, and the tongue is too heavy to manuever. I
was thinking if there was some kind of caster ball that could be
placed under the foot of the trailer jack, then I could roll the
trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.
Matt Colie - 18 May 2007 17:44 GMT
Twice,

Do you have a tongue jack that does not have a caster?

I've never had one that did not.  I bet a google search will turn up a
bunch real fast. Or, go to www.campingworld.com and type in jack.

Matt Colie

> I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.
twice.redeemed@gmail.com - 18 May 2007 18:10 GMT
> Twice,
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> No, mine doesn't have a caster, it just has a flat foot for the jack. But I called the trailer place and found out I could take the pad off the foot of the jack an put a caster in it.

Thanks,

> twice.redee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
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Steve Barker - 18 May 2007 18:25 GMT
A lot of times the jack won't screw up high enough with a wheel on it.  Make
sure you end up with ample ground clearance if you add a wheel.  And make
sure it is secured properly.  They reek havoc when they come off at 75 mph.

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GBinNC - 18 May 2007 18:48 GMT
>A lot of times the jack won't screw up high enough with a wheel on it.  Make
>sure you end up with ample ground clearance if you add a wheel.  And make
>sure it is secured properly.  

Two things: I cut off the bottom of the jack stand so there's enough
clearance. And since it's easy to take off, I would never leave it on
while driving.

> They reek havoc when they come off at 75 mph.

Does that mean it smells bad <g>? (Oh, those damned homophones....)

GB in NC
Steve Barker - 18 May 2007 18:23 GMT
I have four swing away jacks and only one (the boat) has a wheel.  They're
not all that common unless you add them.

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> Twice,
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>> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
>> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.
Jim Redelfs - 19 May 2007 06:47 GMT
> Do you have a tongue jack that does not have a caster?

My former camper, Starcraft's largest popup, had a caster on its tongue jack.  
The tongue was heavy enough that moving the trailer around on that caster was
too much work.  I usually placed wood blocks in such a manner as to negate the
wheel completely.

> I've never had one that did not.

My next (also current) camper did NOT have a caster wheel on the tongue jack.  
It would have been impossible to move in ANY case due to the tongue weight -
and that's on an entry level "24-footer".

I just maneuver the tow vehicle until I get the coupler directly over the
hitch ball.  Sometimes it goes quickly, other times, not so quickly.  It's
part of camping.
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Steve B - 19 May 2007 07:40 GMT
> My former camper, Starcraft's largest popup, had a caster on its tongue
> jack.
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> the
> wheel completely.

The problem with having a caster on there is that it only works on level
ground.  If there's any incline at all, it's going that way, and even a 300#
lard butt gets dragged like a Yorkie on a leash.  I have only had success
with casters on very very light trailers.  Other than that, it's just
learning how to do it, and trial and error.  And a few sacrificial plates
that get crunched on the way.  Once you get the hang of it, it's not too
bad.  You just have to do it over and over and only move a little at a time.
A PITA getting out, looking, getting in, repeat, repeat, repeat until hooked
up.

To me, casters are dangerous.

Steve
Steve B - 19 May 2007 14:22 GMT
And a few sacrificial plates
> that get crunched on the way.

License plates, not real ritualistic sacrifice plates.  ;-)

Steve
GBinNC - 18 May 2007 18:11 GMT
>I was thinking if there was some kind of caster ball that could be
>placed under the foot of the trailer jack, then I could roll the
>trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
>lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

I have a caster wheel that slips into the bottom of the trailer tongue
jack. Bought it at Northern Tool (northerntool.com).

GB in NC
Steve Barker - 18 May 2007 18:23 GMT
practice will make perfect.  Next time you pull it, pay particular attention
to EXACTLY where the trailer is in relationship to the back of your vehicle
as viewed in the mirrors.  With a bit of practice, you'll be able to back up
to it and stop in just the right spot.  If you miss, then pull forward and
try again.  Go practice when you don't have a deadline and plenty of time.
There are also mirrors that can be mounted on the trailer tongue that can
guide you in.

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>I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.
Kevin - 18 May 2007 20:09 GMT
They make all kinds of "cheats" for this. Once you get used to it, it's not
tough, but until then they have magnetic rods that go on your hitch and
coupler, etc. When they are close, so is the ball and coupler!

If your lot is like ours, it's large gravel and not caster friendly!

>I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.
Bob V - 18 May 2007 20:34 GMT
:I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
: RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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: trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
: lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

Maybe something like this would help.  http://www.etrailer.com/p-53410.htm
stan.birch@hotmail.com - 18 May 2007 21:37 GMT
>I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
>RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
>it difficult because when I back up the SUV, I can't get the ball
>directly under the coupler, and the tongue is too heavy to manuever.

Interesting moniker! A victim of some sort of a "redemption" that
didn't take"?  Bummer!

Nevertheless you are probably asking the question in the wrong
newsgroup! Check out Hunter in rec.outdoors.rv-travel. She can
accurately back up her truck up to her trailer in less than two
minutes flat.

I've seen her do that!
Jim Redelfs - 19 May 2007 06:42 GMT
> I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

The following item allows side-to-side adjustment of the tongue jack,
supposedly to aid in hitching.  I just use the trial-and-error method.  The
excercise is good for me.

<http://www.norcoind.com/bal/products/consumer/accessories/accessories.htm#2810
0>
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Mickey - 19 May 2007 15:01 GMT
> I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
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> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

Maybe the best help would be in the form of a small TV camera.  There is
a system I've seen in numerous places recently, Costco, Walmart, etc
that is selling for a little under $100.  Camera and monitor, wireless
design.  Camera is built so it makes up a license plate frame.  Can't
get a better view of trailer hitch and tongue that that.  Monitor sits
on the dash.  Picture can be flipped vert or horiz so no matter how
mounted you can view it correctly.  Camera connects to back up lights
for power so is only one while in reverse.  Monitor is about a 4-5" display.

Mickey
R.J.(Bob) Evans - 19 May 2007 15:13 GMT
>I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
>RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
>it difficult because when I back up the SUV, I can't get the ball
>directly under the coupler, and the tongue is too heavy to manuever. I

As others have already posted, even with a caster ball except under
the most ideal circumstances you will still have to get lined up under
the hitch.  You will soon learn where the trailer should be in your
mirrors.  Once you learn to get aimed at the ball it is fairly easy to
get under the hitch.  If you are coming straight back at the hitch the
first time you get out to have a look then estimate how much further
back you have to go.  Say its about 15 inches more straight back.
When you get back in the truck leave the door open.  Look down at the
ground and pick a reference point 15 inches further back from
something - I don't know you vehicle - maybe 15 inches back from the
corner of the open door.  Then back up that far.  QED.

You'll also soon learn that you don't have to be EXACTLY under the
hitch - the top of the ball is - surprisingly enough - a ball.  The
hitch will slide when it hits the ball if you aren't perfectly
aligned.

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Jim Redelfs - 20 May 2007 07:04 GMT
> Once you learn to get aimed at the ball it is fairly easy to
> get under the hitch.

Agreed.

After all these years, I still have to get in-and-out of the pickup 2-3 times
when hitching-up.  I don't mind the exercise and it's certainly CHEAPER than
any hitching aid, except one.  That one was my middle daughter.  We made a
GREAT team hitching-up to our popup.  (She's married and an M.D. now. <sigh>)
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R.J.(Bob) Evans - 20 May 2007 14:15 GMT
>> Once you learn to get aimed at the ball it is fairly easy to
>> get under the hitch.
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>any hitching aid, except one.  That one was my middle daughter.  We made a
>GREAT team hitching-up to our popup.  (She's married and an M.D. now. <sigh>)

It was my oldest son for me.  From the time he was 4 years old he was
a better guide than Marilyn has been or ever will be.  Unfortunately
then don't stay little for long.

The bus has a camera - I can actually see when the ball is under the
hitch on the boat - usually can do that 1st time.

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canolihiself@yhoo.com - 29 May 2007 21:51 GMT
>The bus has a camera - I can actually see when the ball is under the
>hitch on the boat - usually can do that 1st time.

Must be difficult, since balls are so unfamiliar to you that you can't
immediately determine their location, unless you have a picture to
study.

Canoli
R.J.(Bob) Evans - 29 May 2007 23:57 GMT
On Tue, 29 May 2007 13:51:26 -0700 some old fool who refers to himself
as canolihiself@yhoo.com drooled a completely irrelevant response - to
whit:

>Must be difficult, since balls are so unfamiliar to you that you can't
>immediately determine their location, unless you have a picture to
>study.

Now why doesn't it surprise me that the first post of mine that the
anonymous pasta chooses to respond to since his (all too brief)
departure is one that he manages to pervert to refer to his groin?

Go away again fool.  Please.

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canolihiself@yhoo.com - 30 May 2007 06:27 GMT
>Now why doesn't it surprise me that the first post of mine that the
>anonymous pasta chooses to respond to since his (all too brief)
>departure is one that he manages to pervert to refer to his groin?
>
>Go away again fool.  Please.

Since you chose to welcome me back so politely, it's only fair that I
tell it like it is as far as you are concerned  

When I returned, I vowed not to simply accept the personal attacks of
the maroonish brain- challenged here.  You are one of the leaders of
that group, hence be aware that each time you elect to offer insult
and ridicule, it will be returned in spades.  

In a country that prides itself as a haven for cowardly draft dodgers,
you R. J. (Bob) must fit in, just a good ol' boy filling the trailer
trash quota.

Canoli
miles - 19 May 2007 15:56 GMT
> I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

I've simply backed up slow, got out and checked and then backed up some
more.  Never had a problem but its a pain.

One cheap easy solution that works well is to use two 3 foot or so long
rods with suction cups on one end.  One sticks to the top of your
hitchball and the other to the top of your trailers hitch.  You simply
back up and line the two up in your mirror.  When the rod on your
hitchball falls off your under your trailers hitch.  Works great!
Hugh - 19 May 2007 17:04 GMT
> I have a small 7X12 (2100 lbs) concession trailer which I store at an
> RV storage facility. I need to go there by myself to hitch up. I find
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> trailer a few inches to place it directly over the ball and then just
> lower it onto the ball. Do they make anything like that.

I've been trying to find this device I saw to aid in hitching up and
finally did;

<http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0034405521806a.shtml>

I think this is a neat product that should work for you and would work
best with just a plate on the bottom of the jack post so the tongue can
slide around a bit.
Hugh
 
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