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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / June 2007Flashes of Light on the Faith
In this article of mine, the believer will find incontestable historic- archaeological support to his Faith, the undecided one will perhaps be capable of making a decisive step forward to live the "Blessed Hope", the atheist will get irritated at seeing his thought being based absolutely on nothing. In this site, there are links with other writings of mine, which have had more than 100.000 readers all over the world. Nowadays, we are living on the surface and on the loss of information. Let us think of the Vinci's Code which, even among many other anti- historical events being therein described, makes reference to documents being recognized as falsified from the authors themselves. In spreading the Truth, we will honour Our Lord, we will help all the people who are in need of consolation and hope, we will give our contribution to fight against the darkness closed in upon us and trying to steal our eternal destiny of life, to give us an equivalent eternal destiny of death. To everybody who will read this article, I wish a profitable reading, with my best regards. www.lorenzocrescini.it/archeo - ricercapap@lorenzocrescini.it Lorenzo Crescini And if you need hard concrete historical and scientific evidence for God existing, Christ being real, his ressurection, how we know there is absolute truth, how we know Heaven is real , etc... go to www.impactapologetics.com and order the very inexpensive large booklet called :' The 12 Points that Prove Christianity' . If youre an atheist or agnostic, youve often said 'if there were proof then id believe and follow God'....well, here is your opportunity for all the compelling evidence one could possibly ask for . Dont let your pride stand in the way ; the implications of denying The Creator and his global plan of salvation has immense implications for you and your eternity . Its not a manmade plan., its a God made plan. He is personal, you are made in his likeness , and he desires for you to be reconciled to him . You loose nothing by looking deeply into the evidence . But it requires you to be an honest forthright Seeker . Regards. >And if you need hard concrete historical and scientific evidence for God >existing, Christ being real, his ressurection, how we know there is >absolute truth, how we know Heaven is real , etc... go to >www.impactapologetics.com and order the very inexpensive large booklet >called :' The 12 Points that Prove Christianity' . Wow! Only $75 for the DVD!! And don't miss the bargain of the week: $100 for 2 ounces of magic Holy Water that will cure cancer and make you a millionaire overnight. Giggle 'Wow! Only $75 for the DVD!! ' REPLY: The BOOKLET was $10 last time i checked. If its scientific evidence you want, then this Booklet has it. In fact, i have a few extra copies and if youre truly an honest Seeker , email me and ill send it to you free of charge. Ill send it to whatever address you provide so long as you will recieve it. I used to be an agnostic , but a Seeker also....and i found the information quite compelling. The other excellent source this site has, is ' I Dont Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist' book which fairly examines the extreme faith an Atheist/Materialist/Macro-Evolutionist must have to believe in what he does. The information is out there ; its just a matter of if you really truly want it. Regards. 12 Points That Show Christianity Is True | ImpactApologetics.com Address:http://www.impactapologetics.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_I Yes, i was correct ; the Booklet (also termed as 'notes' in the site, goes for $10. This is a full size booklet having approx. 45 pages of the historical and scientific evidences so one can believe and follow our personal Theistic Creator . > 12 Points That Show Christianity Is True | ImpactApologetics.com > Address:http://www.impactapologetics.com/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the historical and scientific evidences so one can believe and follow > our personal Theistic Creator . It only took a single post from the Christnet spick-spammer to start this Dave-in the-Lake-of-Fire-and-Sulpher idiot off. : He's been waiting for a chance to start preaching his extremist fundamentalist christotaliban message ever since he arrived in here since being kicked out of the dating/gay/swinger/every other group. > And if you need hard concrete historical and scientific evidence for > God [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > it > requires you to be an honest forthright Seeker . Regards. They won't listen. Their minds (if you can call them that) are closed. Actually, it's quite like poetic justice how they will, every last one of them, eventually meet their maker and they will understand the folly of their ways and be horrified and grief-stricken and but it will be too late. They will have all eternity burning in hellfire to rue the day they were so arrogant and blasphemous by tossing aside Jesus' freely-offered salvation. I look at it as God's way of affirming the Darwin Awards. He works in mysterious ways. Harry Harris  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > They won't listen. Their minds (if you can call them that) are closed. > Actually, it's quite like poetic justice how they will, every last one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they were so arrogant and blasphemous by tossing aside Jesus' > freely-offered salvation. Only Radical Moslems and Radical Christians believe that their way is the only way and everyone else deserves death and damnation. Most rational people feel that as long as a person is decent and cares for their fellow human being and the planet our creator gave us to live on, then it's okay for them to believe in what ever it is that they believe in. No one has the right to condemn a fellow human being based up their beliefs or lack of beliefs. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life >Only Radical Moslems and Radical Christians believe that their way is >the only way and everyone else deserves death and damnation. Chevy owners tend to be that way tool. >> They won't listen. Their minds (if you can call them that) are >> closed. Actually, it's quite like poetic justice how they will, every [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > No one has the right to condemn a fellow human being based up their > beliefs or lack of beliefs. But, Jesus made it perfectly clear that the only way to the Father was through Him. Human beings have free will. Those innocents who never learned of Jesus may get a break but those who know of Jesus and reject him will be shown no mercy. You say no one has the right to condemn. You are wrong. Jesus clearly has that right. It was given to Him by the Father whom we call Lord. Jesus also said good works alone will not earn you a place in Heaven. Best you believe Him. Jesus also taught it was a Christian's duty to attempt to educate other people. This is why I write about Him here. It's part of my duty as a Christian. But Jesus also said don't waste too much time on unbelievers. So if you're an unbeliever with a mind made up, I will refrain from bothering you any more about this subject. But, maybe a lurker might have his feet turned just a wee bit toward the right path by my efforts so they are perhaps not entirely wasted. Peace. Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com And all this xian sh.t has what to do with Rving? "IF YOU WANT A NATION RULED BY RELIGON MOVE TO IRAN" > Most rational people feel that as long as a person is decent and cares > for their fellow human being and the planet our creator gave us to live > on, then it's okay for them to believe in what ever it is that they > believe in. True but most Christian based faiths will tell you that just being decent is not enough to get into heaven. >> They won't listen. Their minds (if you can call them that) are closed. >> Actually, it's quite like poetic justice how they will, every last one [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > No one has the right to condemn a fellow human being based up their > beliefs or lack of beliefs. Most rational people? Only radicals? If you believe in God he wrote the rules. If you don't believe in God then whatever rules you or anyone think reasonable by your standards is ok from God's standpoint? I'm sure radicals of every persuasion feel deeply. I believe in God. I know he is real. I will follow him to the best of my ability. I don't feel radical for following God. 'Only Radical Moslems and Radical Christians believe that their way is the only way and everyone else deserves death and damnation. Most rational people feel that as long as a person is decent and cares for their fellow human being and the planet our creator gave us to live on, then it's okay for them to believe in what ever it is that they believe in. No one has the right to condemn a fellow human being based up their beliefs or lack of beliefs. SignatureJanet Wilder' REPLY: Janet, We ALL deserve damnation for our many many sins against a very holy Creator . I shutter to think of the times ive : Used Gods name in vain, swore, cheated, looked down upon minorities, reduced a woman to sexual objects, lied, been deceitful, deceptive, unloving, utterly self centered, and more ; the condition of mans heart is anything but holy and righteous. If Gods ONLY plan of Salvation was to send Christ into the world to bring us back to God and save us from our sins, then, that is the only way . If there was another way, then Christ died for nothing. ITs a very important issue and I hope you will give it some considerable attention . Its not 'radical' to agree with Gods global plan of saving the human race based on the historic and sceintific evidence . ANd its not a matter of people who cannot accept it., its a matter of they dont want to nor even look into the credibility of The Christian Faith. Regards. Dickwadd Dave, AKA "Dimwit" spewed the following copy-and-pasted drivel, which isn't worth repeating. : YOU, Dimwit, deserve damnation for being a gullible fuckwadd hypocrite, proven liar, pervert, self-confessed lawbreaker and psychotic with a dysfunctional personality disorder. YOU should be cancelled for attempting to lead the intellectually-challenged into subservience of George Bush under the label of the "ultimate faith"; which at the end of the day is a pack of lies aimed at decieving the masses of unintellectual AmeriKKKans into political subservience. Fortunately George Bush is yesterday's idiot and has failed in his ultimate deception. You are no more than a woefully-educated protoge of a hasbeen imbesile who is incapable of accepting defeat due to your many-times-manifested social and mental problems. > I look at it as God's way of affirming the Darwin Awards. He works in > mysterious ways. How do you know that god is a "he?" Doesn't the female give birth? God is actually created in man's image. I mean, have you ever seen a self-portrait of god? kh 'God is actually created in man's image. I mean, have you ever seen a self-portrait of god? kh' REPLY: Atheists are created by man ; people have to be taught not to believe in God . Are you able to show us how very personal distinctive human traits such as reason, rationality, abstract thoughts, ethical systems, moral oughtness, compassion, empathy, etc..can originate from big bang materials such as helium, hydrogen gasses, dirt, planets, etc ?? Have a go. On Jun 7, 3:41 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > 'God is actually created in man's image. I mean, have you ever seen a > self-portrait of god? > kh' > > REPLY: Atheists are created by man So are trolling webtv idiots like you, Dumbwit FOAD > 'God is actually created in man's image. I mean, have you ever seen a > self-portrait of god? > kh' > > REPLY: Atheists are created by man ; So are Sikhs, Buddhists, Muslims, Wiccans, Hindus, Copts, etc. So? > people have to be taught not to > believe in God . Now there's a statement that could use a good proof. I was raised in a household in which religion was alleged to be important, but in which actions were contrary to the "teachings." I learned much of what I know about Christianity in that environment; a valuable but unrewarding experience. And who said I am an Atheist? The same people that said that Christians have all the answers? Are you able to show us how very personal distinctive > human traits such as reason, rationality, abstract thoughts, ethical > systems, moral oughtness, compassion, empathy, etc..can originate from > big bang materials such as helium, hydrogen gasses, dirt, planets, etc No. And when both of us die, neither of us will know if we were correct. I'm still looking for that self-portrait. Does it look like you? (See first line of quote). Haggling about religion is bullshit, getting us nowhere. What I don't understand is why both Christians and Muslims feel that it is appropriate for them to try to impose on the world, through coercion, solicitation, or force, their view of the appropriate world order. In other words, believe what you wish, but leave the rest of us alone! kh >> I look at it as God's way of affirming the Darwin Awards. He works in >> mysterious ways. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > kh Sorry, but you seem to be misinformed. In the Bible it states that God created man in his own image. That means men look like God looks. If God looked like a woman than men would look like women look. The first man God created was Adam. After creating Adam God looked at the situation and concluded it's not good for Adam to live alone. So God created Eve. Eve's purpose for existing was in her role as "helpmate." In other words women were put on earth to be helpmates and companions. Women were and are a second-thought creation. Far too many modern-day women seem to have forgotten their rightful place. Women stand at the right hand of man. Jesus stands at the right hand of God. It's that type of relationship intended. The female does, indeed, give birth. But that has nothing to do with looking like God. Giving birth is a women's role of helpmate. God made it painful for women to give birth as punishment after Eve sinned and corrupted the human race by listening to the serpent and eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. As for seeing a self-portrait of God all a man has to do is look in the mirror. God created men in his own image. So when men look at their image they are looking at God. It's pretty obvious, isn't it? Of, course there are some minor differences such as color, size, etc. but the overall layout of men is the same the world over. references: from www.biblegateway.com Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com 'In the Bible it states that God created man in his own image. That means men look like God looks.' REPLY: Well, not exactly Harry. God is spirit dont forget and a non coporial being. When the Bible says we are made in the image of God, it is not referring to physical traits, but rather , our emotional makeup such as our personhood/personality/emotions/feelings, etc.. 'As for seeing a self-portrait of God all a man has to do is look in the mirror.' REPLY: God is not a finite Being ; he is infinite which is what allows him to be omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. Looking at our physical structure does not give a depiction of what God 'looks like' . > 'In the Bible it states that God created man in his own image. That > means men look like God looks.' [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > physical structure does not give a depiction of what God 'looks like' > . I disagree with you on this. Jesus is God. Do you agree? Jesus looked just like a man, did he not? Sure, God is part spirit. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all rolled up in to one. But in his physical form (Jesus) he is and looks like a man. This proves that God is NOT a woman as some like to fantasize or Jesus would have looked like a woman. I hope this helps and God Bless you. Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com 'I disagree with you on this. Jesus is God. Do you agree? Jesus looked just like a man, did he not? Sure, God is part spirit. God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all rolled up in to one. But in his physical form (Jesus) he is and looks like a man. This proves that God is NOT a woman as some like to fantasize or Jesus would have looked like a woman. I hope this helps and God Bless you. Harry Harris' REPLY: I agree that Jesus is God. But you should have used Jesus by himself instead of including the Father and Holy Spirit which is the Triune God we worship . It would have been more accurate. Take care my Brother, Dave. > REPLY: I agree that Jesus is God. But you should have used Jesus by > himself instead of including the Father and Holy Spirit which is the > Triune God we worship . It would have been more accurate. Take care my Say, now, when did Jesus get promoted? I always heard that he was alleged to be the son of god. So how can the son also be the father? You must be Catholic. 'Say, now, when did Jesus get promoted? I always heard that he was alleged to be the son of god. So how can the son also be the father?' REPLY: 1. Jesus never got or needed a promotion. 2. He was always God . 3. He was and is the Son of God, the 2nd person of the Trinity . 4. The Son cannot also be the father and i never asserted The Son was. Each person of the Trinity is a distinct personality yet fully God. Just like water can be liquid, vapor, or ice ; they are all still the same substance. 'You must be catholic' REPLY: No, im not catholic. Im a Follower and Believer of Jesus Christ without any labels. Catholicism by the way, differs from the Bible on many many major points as the following online book clearly indicates as written by a former catholic : 'Understanding Roman Catholicism' by Rick Jones - Table of Contents Address:http://www.chick.com/reading/books/160/160cont.asp Would you consider yourself a genuine seeker of truth about Jesus Christ ? Would you be willing to have all the historic and scientific evidence in your hands so you can thoroughly evaluate it ? Where are you at spiritually ? Thanks, > 'In the Bible it states that God created man in his own image. That > means men look like God looks.' [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > him to be omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. Looking at our > physical structure does not give a depiction of what God 'looks like' . As a statement of faith, this is an interesting post, illustrating the controversy that might arise between two equally faithful factions as to to which one maintains the "correct" interpretation of scripture. Of course, there are those sects that maintain scripture is not "interpreted," but rather is read and understood literally. Been to a Kingdom Hall recently? Had any ham or crab lately? How about one's feeling about the death penalty (used only in the US, China, Uganda [I think], and several other countries of equal moral discrepancy). Everybody believes what is convenient for him to believe. And everybody will rationalize those beliefs. Why not just ask the Pope? Surely he must have the answers. kh >>> I look at it as God's way of affirming the Darwin Awards. He works in >>> mysterious ways. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Harry Harris And this is proof? How does that differ from faith? She is running for Predident. >> I look at it as God's way of affirming the Darwin Awards. He works in >> mysterious ways. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >kh >And if you need hard concrete historical and scientific evidence for God >existing, Christ being real, his ressurection, how we know there is >absolute truth, how we know Heaven is real , etc... go to >www.impactapologetics.com and order the very inexpensive large booklet >called :' The 12 Points that Prove Christianity' . This entire effort is an obvious troll. If Christianity is a legitimate religion, why would Dave reduce it to a level generally associated with a sleazy used-car salesman?? Dave's concept of this religion includes: 1. Dave spamming his religion in a Newsgroup designated soley for RVers; not for religion! i.e. a total disregard for socially accepted practices and ethics; 2. $pamming on behalf of any religion-for-$$$-website, is absolutely unacceptable in ANY RV Newsgroup; and certainly not an idea that's going to appeal to any other than the most gullible; 3. In speaking of Christ's "ressurection", the most awesome claim of your religion; would it be too much to ask that you possess the education and intelligence to at least spell the word correctly ??!! 'This entire effort is an obvious troll. If Christianity is a legitimate religion, why would Dave reduce it to a level generally associated with a sleazy used-car salesman??' REPLY: I didnt start the thread ; I only contributed to what the OP mentioned. Its not 'a sleazy act' to discuss an off topic subject especially one as important as our eternal destiny and i dont get a commission check the last friday of the month from doing it---Im simply concerned for where people finally end up. Im a little surprised that you are so hostile to the very foundation that our Country was based on as all of our Founding Fathers as well as the Modern Founders of the Sciences were devoted believers of a Theistic God . Like Harry said, if you want to remain a committed unbeliever instead of a Seeker, then I'll disengage my dialogue with you. Regards. On Jun 2, 4:21 am, Dumb sh.t Dave in Lake Evil wrote: (nothing worth quoting) Piss off, U trolling fundy a.shole > On Jun 2, 4:21 am, Dumb sh.t Dave in Lake Evil wrote: (nothing worth > quoting) > Piss off, U trolling fundy a.shole Neo-politically-correct UK Channel 4 catches Dimwit-disease.: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6729673.stm |
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