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dwk - 14 Jun 2007 02:36 GMT
I was low on fuel in PA and stopped at a truck stop in the Amish
Country.........all of their diesel was "biodiesel" which I am told is about
10% soybean oil.

A lot of trucks were fueling up and I asked a trucker (owner/operator) about
it and he said that it burned no different except cleaner and not to worry
about using it.

I filled up my '02 Cummins and I didn't notice any performance difference
but the fuel economy was down about 1 mpg.......but on just one tank I can't
use this figure as a true indicator.

Does anyone have any comments, negative or positive on biodiesel?

dwk
Chris Hill - 14 Jun 2007 14:55 GMT
>I was low on fuel in PA and stopped at a truck stop in the Amish
>Country.........all of their diesel was "biodiesel" which I am told is about
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>dwk

Smells better, may provide better  lubrication than the new ULSD.  I
try to use nothing else.
mini me - 14 Jun 2007 20:21 GMT
> I was low on fuel in PA and stopped at a truck stop in the Amish
> Country.........all of their diesel was "biodiesel" which I am told is about
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> dwk

A couple weeks ago I was driving through cotton and cattle ranch area
near Coolidge, AZ. With open land on both sides of the highway, I
couldn't figure why smelled a strong BBQ odor. It smelled pretty good,
made me hungry, and I wondered why it was so strong. I told my wife and
she said that there was a manure truck in front of us and laughed. Sure
enough the 6 wheeler truck a few hundred yards ahead was loaded with
manure. I asked her not to tell anyone what I said. When we got close
and the manure truck started from a stop sign, I realized that the BBQ
odor was from bio diesel the truck was burning. It was funny, and I
remembered Willy Nelson saying that his bio diesel bus smelled like
french fries going down the road.
Rob J - 15 Jun 2007 04:33 GMT
I thought it would be the SVO (straight vegetable oil) that would create
the french fry odor/aroma.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetable_oil_used_as_fuel

>> Does anyone have any comments, negative or positive on biodiesel?
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> remembered Willy Nelson saying that his bio diesel bus smelled like
> french fries going down the road.
NotMe - 15 Jun 2007 13:17 GMT
| > I was low on fuel in PA and stopped at a truck stop in the Amish
| > Country.........all of their diesel was "biodiesel" which I am told is about
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| remembered Willy Nelson saying that his bio diesel bus smelled like
| french fries going down the road.

THOSE WHO MAKE THEIR OWN ENVIRONMENT-FRIENDLY GAS CAN AVOID PAIN AT THE PUMP
BUT NOT THE TAXES.

A price to pay for alternative fuels

BRUCE HENDERSON

bhenderson@charlotteobserver.com

Bob Teixeira re-applies a sticker touting an alternative fuel he uses in his
car. He plans to fight to change fuel-tax laws that have hit his wallet.

Bob Teixeira decided it was time to take a stand against U.S. dependence on
foreign oil.

So last fall the Charlotte musician and guitar instructor spent $1,200 to
convert his 1981 diesel Mercedes to run on vegetable oil. He bought soybean
oil in 5-gallon jugs at Costco, spending about 30 percent more than diesel
would cost.

His reward, from a state that heavily promotes alternative fuels: a $1,000
fine last month for not paying motor fuel taxes.

He's been told to expect another $1,000 fine from the federal government.

And to legally use veggie oil, state officials told him, he would have to
first post a $2,500 bond.

Teixeira is one of a growing number of fuel-it-yourselfers -- backyard
brewers who recycle restaurant grease or make moonshine for their car tanks.
They do it to save money, reduce pollution or thumb their noses at oil
sheiks.

They're also caught in a web of little-known state laws that can stifle
energy independence.

State Sen. Stan Bingham, R-Davidson, is known around Raleigh for his diesel
Volkswagen fueled by used soybean oil. The car sports a "Goodbye, OPEC"
sign.

"If somebody was going to go to this much trouble to drive around in a car
that uses soybean oil, they ought to be exempt" from state taxes, he said.
The N.C. Department of Revenue, which fined Teixeira, has asked legislators
to waive the $2,500 bond for small fuel users. The department also told
Teixeira, after the Observer asked about his case this week, that it will
compromise on his fine.

But officials say they'll keep pursuing taxes on all fuels used in highway
vehicles. With its 29.9-cent a gallon gas tax, the state collects $1.2
billion each year to pay for road construction.

"With the high cost of fuel right now, the department does recognize that a
lot of people are looking for relief," said Reggie Little, assistant
director of the motor fuel taxes division. "We're not here to hurt the small
guy, we're just trying to make sure that the playing field is level."

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http://www.charlotte.com/112/story/153260.html
Steve Barker - 15 Jun 2007 03:41 GMT
Generally, it will make a little better mileage.  The 10% (B10) however, is
not really enough to tell the difference.  Try some B80 or B100 , you'll
love it.

www.biodiesel.org

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>I was low on fuel in PA and stopped at a truck stop in the Amish
>Country.........all of their diesel was "biodiesel" which I am told is
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> dwk
 
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