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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / June 2007Is there an Alternate Discussion board other than RV.NET
Where some whiner wont be able to get you Moderated because you have a religious saying in your signature thats going to make him Die or something. Also where they wont let Hensley owners tell you that you are risking your families lives and the lives of others because you didn't buy one but if you say something you get moderated. Thanks IN MY OPINION stay away from RV.NET. If you dont agree hensley is the best thing sinced sliced bread or if you dare mention something religious you get nailed. > Where some whiner wont be able to get you Moderated because you have a > religious saying in your signature thats going to make him Die or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > best thing sinced sliced bread or if you dare mention something > religious you get nailed. I find it alarming how some little politically correct dweeb can set up a discussion group and then get all bent out of shape when he reads something he doesn't like. Things such as you mention should not be censored. I don't think anything should be censored. That's why groups like alt.rv are valuable. The alt hierarchy is sort of a wide open unmoderated forum where some jerk can't set himself as some sort of God while denying people any mention of God. But, even on the alt groups you find subscribers who spend the majority of their time writing abuse complaints to various News Service Providers when they read something that pin-pricks their thin skins. And even worse than these losers are the abuse dept admin minimum wage not nosed geek idiots on most of the News Service Providers who are more than willing to suspend their own paying customers to please these complainers. All it takes is a volume of complaints, even if they have little or no validity and some abuse depts. will throw paying customers under the bus. It's really pathetic. I know one guy who got kicked off Usenet-News (avoid them like the plague - they're Usenet censors and their service is slow and off again-on again) for posting the following joke in an alt group: Q: Why don't Negroes marry Mexicans? A: They're afraid their kids will be too lazy to steal. It's the beginning of a trend.... First they kick Imus off the air for saying "nappy-headed hos." Now they're trying to kick off any and all conservative talk show hosts like Hannity or Rush. It's all part of a trend where the little net Nazis are managing to stifle free speech. I've been constantly amazed by people who join a discussion group yet, instead of discussing, most of their energy is spent on trying to deny others the right to discuss. It's a really sick mentality. When NSPs and discussion group moderators start regulating freedom of speech on Usenet, and it's already happening, then it means they don't have a clue as to what Usenet is all about. Take your business elsewhere. Let their worthless groups or services whither on the vine. Harry Harris  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com "Now they're trying to kick off any and all conservative talk show hosts like Hannity or Rush. It's all part of a trend where the little net Nazis are managing to stifle free speech.<<<< And the Democrats call it the "Fairness Doctrine", so their mind numbed robot voters will believe it is really about fairness. Because they can't get a liberal radio talk show to get over a .0001 rating, they want to stop Rush, Hannity, Bortz, Liddy, Beck, Ingram, etc, from broadcasting. (and they call that fair) SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > "Now they're trying to kick off any and all conservative talk show > hosts like Hannity or Rush. It's all part of a trend where the little [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > rating, they want to stop Rush, Hannity, Bortz, Liddy, Beck, Ingram, > etc, from broadcasting. (and they call that fair) And, perhaps the most intelligent, effective and feared of them all, the Great One, Mark Levin. http://www.marklevinshow.com/ Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > And the Democrats call it the "Fairness Doctrine", so their mind numbed > robot voters will believe it is really about fairness. > Because they can't get a liberal radio talk show to get over a .0001 rating, > they want to stop Rush, Hannity, Bortz, Liddy, Beck, Ingram, etc, from > broadcasting. (and they call that fair) I'd hazard a guess that the reason for what you assert is a .0001 rating (amongst "liberals") is that among other things, many of those who disagree with talk radio's venom do not care to become entangled in the war of words that has become its style, and choose to listen to CDs instead. I, for one, do not need to hear people echoing my own belief system (which is what much of talk radio seems to need for its own perpetuation). Ideas, argued in a civil manner, are far more important than the harangues of these pettifogs. I do not want to put Mr. Limbaugh off the air; that would be contrary to democratic principles. I just want him to debate fairly, without using his bully pulpit to denigrate any who disagree with him. Were that it were possible. Talk radio, as much as anything else in this country, is an example of how polarized people have allowed themselves to become. More's the shame, since such an attitude can only bring gloom to our beloved, if misdirected, country. Ken H "Ken Harrison" wrote in message.....I do not want to put Mr. Limbaugh off the air; that would be contrary to democratic principles. I just want him to debate fairly, without using his bully pulpit to denigrate any who disagree with him. Were that it were possible. But nobody on the left has ever mentioned making the MSM "debate fairly", they just want talk radio to "debate fairly". The only way to do that is to only allow right wing talk show hosts to be on the radio .0001% of the time so they equal the left's audience. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > "Ken Harrison" wrote in message.....I do not want to put Mr. Limbaugh off > the air; that would be contrary to democratic principles. I just want him [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The only way to do that is to only allow right wing talk show hosts to be on > the radio .0001% of the time so they equal the left's audience. Huh? > I do not want to put Mr. Limbaugh off the air; that would be contrary to > democratic principles. I just want him to debate fairly, without using > his bully pulpit to denigrate any who disagree with him. True except Rush will bash both sides and not just liberals and democrats. He has routinely bashed Bush, McCain etc. > Because they can't get a liberal radio talk show to get over a .0001 > rating, they want to stop Rush, Hannity, Bortz, Liddy, Beck, Ingram, > etc, from broadcasting. (and they call that fair) Well, the fact is that these folks whom you mention are angry folks who really want to incite the basest emotions amongst their constituency. Hence their continuing "scream." I am a conservative, whom you would probably call a liberal, who does not care care to hear the constant screaming diatribe of those whose greatest goal is division amongst the populace. It is that division that sells advertising time, which is really what it is all about. As for the "liberal radio talk show," the fact is that even if we are angry, we do not care to show it by screaming at both our supporters and, more importantly, our opponents. The folks you cite have real problems, but they are unwilling to face them. kh As for the "liberal radio talk show," the fact is that even if we are angry, we do not care to show it by screaming at both our supporters and, more importantly, our opponents. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You have never listened to Air America if you think the left doesn't scream. That's all they do is piss and moan about Bush. The folks you cite have real problems, but they are unwilling to face them. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The "Real Problem" is the lies Democrats tell. The Democrats named Clinton's gun ban "The Assault Weapon Ban" so the unwashed would think it was about banning assault weapons, when it didn't have a thing to do with assault weapons. Now "The Fairness Doctrine" is their latest lie. It has nothing to do with fairness. It will ban talk radio from the airways. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) >Well, the fact is that these folks whom you mention are angry folks who >really want to incite the basest emotions amongst their constituency. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >populace. It is that division that sells advertising time, which is >really what it is all about. In 18 years of listening regularly to Rush and Sean, I have yet to hear a 'screaming diatribe' from either. I would love to have you provide audio clips to prove your comment. Nor have I heard either talk of division. It is obvious you drink the kool-aid and have never listened to either. >As for the "liberal radio talk show," the fact is that even if we are >angry, we do not care to show it by screaming at both our supporters >and, more importantly, our opponents. The folks you cite have real >problems, but they are unwilling to face them. I listened to Air-America for 2 hours after it had been on for a few months. They had some guy from North Dakota, literally yelling about some conservative 'fact' he objected to. Of course, it proved to be false. They also had some Woman named "Randy" but she was so hateful, calling for the assassination of various government and conservative individuals, I couldn't bear it. What a 'toady'. Why is it that Air Am couldn't get sponsors and Rush just added another. AA had, what, 50 outlets? Rush has 600 plus. If they are so bad,, why do people of all persuasions flock to listen?? Ken, your bloviating is rhetoric only and not based in fact. Please try harder. Oh, wait, you have NO facts on your side so you have to lie. >kh RecRVtravel is a NG far worse than this or any imaginable ; if you see an RV related post in there, its nothing short of a miracle. This NG is educational , enjoyable, and has some interesting characters too boot. Shad in particular. > RecRVtravel is a NG far worse than this or any imaginable ; if you > see an RV related post in there, its nothing short of a miracle. This > NG is educational , enjoyable, and has some interesting characters too > boot. Shad in particular. Well I was talking more of Discussion boards or Forums like the forums on RV.NET. Cept I wont go there anymore cause if you don't Cow tail to the MODS and say HENSLEYS are the greatest thing since bread was invented and you actually say they are snobs you get whacked. Or they can post all kinds of Tawdry messages or links and I'm told to ignore it but I post a religious signature line that is more for me than anything else I'm told to remove it cause somebody is gonna die cause they saw the word GOD. I have no need for crap like that. > Cept I wont go there anymore cause if you don't Cow tail to the MODS and > say HENSLEYS are the greatest thing since bread was invented and you > actually say they are snobs you get whacked. Your loss. RV.NET (MOTORHOMEMAGAZINE.COM) has a lot of very nice and helpful people. Lots of great information there. Never had any troubles with anyone there. Sounds like you need to create your own forum that you moderate yourself. That way you can get rid of what YOU don't like and allow what YOU do like. Only way you'll be happy! >Well I was talking more of Discussion boards or Forums like the forums >on RV.NET. > >Cept I wont go there anymore cause if you don't Cow tail to the MODS Actually, the term you want is "kowtow," not "Cow tail." Look it up. >Or they can post all kinds of Tawdry messages or links and I'm told to >ignore it but I post a religious signature line that is more for me than >anything else I'm told to remove it cause somebody is gonna die cause >they saw the word GOD. > >I have no need for crap like that. Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs. And not all RVers are believers in ANY religion, let alone ONE single religion. There's a time and a place for everything. GB in NC GB, TV.NET has a section called "Around the Campfire" (ATC, wherein topics not explicitly devoted to RVing can be posted.. I have been having a running feud with the mods because they willl willingly allow a post that blames ALL woes on George Bush, including accusing him of pocketing billions of "BIG OIL DOLLARS". But if anyone dares to post a joke about Hillary, it is yanked faster than a 17 YO's Johnson at a porn flick! Their Socialist bias is showing in wide screen HD color. Dean >>Well I was talking more of Discussion boards or Forums like the forums >>on RV.NET. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >GB in NC >GB, > >TV.NET ... I assume you meant RV.NET... >... has a section called "Around the Campfire" (ATC, wherein topics >not explicitly devoted to RVing can be posted.. I have been having a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Their Socialist bias is showing in wide screen HD color. Well, okay. But what does any of that have to do with my comments? GB in NC > Actually, the term you want is "kowtow," not "Cow tail." Look it up. You from the west coast or specifically where I grew up, Its our slang variation ... Im sure the British don't like your slang either so we are even. > Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, > it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs. And not all RVers are > believers in ANY religion, let alone ONE single religion. Oh I see, so them making fun of Religion is ok, or telling religious jokes. My having an innocent sig line is too much. So As long as I believe what you do, or even if I don't as long as I tolerate your crap, IM fine but if I dare believe different then Shut up and dont let you hear it because your actually intolerant. > So As long as I believe what you do, or even if I don't as long as I > tolerate your crap, IM fine but if I dare believe different then Shut up > and dont let you hear it because your actually intolerant. You complain that you don't like the crap here. Does that mean you want it moderated? But wait, you don't like RV.NET because it is moderated but not per how you feel it should! You seem to want it both ways...or more YOUR way. >> Actually, the term you want is "kowtow," not "Cow tail." Look it up. >You from the west coast or specifically where I grew up, Its our slang >variation ... Im sure the British don't like your slang either so we are >even. LOL. A "slang variation"? Nah. It's simply not knowing how to spell or pronounce the correct word. GB in NC 'Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs.' REPLY: But this Country (the USA) was founded on Religious Freedom and has that as its roots. Whenever i take an RV trip, i always pray and ask God for safe travels and an enjoyable time ...so, they are related. 'And not all RVers are believers in ANY religion, let alone ONE single religion. ' REPLY: Actually, we ALL have 'a religion' we follow...whether we realize it or not. Here are a few popular Followings today which people make a religion out of : Secular Humanism, hedonism, narcissism, egotism , sexual immorality, nihlism , and a few other isms. >DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: >'Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, >it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs.' [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >religion out of : Secular Humanism, hedonism, narcissism, egotism , >sexual immorality, nihlism , and a few other isms. Wait! I think he's going to tell us the one about the talking snake. That's my favorite. SignatureDD DD, Nothing is so silly as 'atheism' (no such thing really , cause everyone knows intrinsically there has to be an infinite Theistic personal Creator for our Universe, Solar System, Earth, our Bodies, DNA, and a whole host of other purposed things). Consider the rational of an 'atheist' : 1. Tries to pretend that very personal innate qualities of a human being such as abstract thoughts, moral oughtness, ethical systems, compassion, empathy, et al ... came from NON personal material such as Hydrogen Gas ? 2. Tries to pretend that the vast array of specified complexity such as Human DNA can come about from the atmosphere when even its founder, atheist Dr. Francis Crick , boldly declared that it is IMPOSSIBLE for DNA to have arrived by accident from the atmosphere. ? 3. Tries to pretend that the scientifically confirmed 133 (so far discovered) parameters of our Solar System which are all needed simultaneously / working in conjunction with one another , so earth can be here so we can live on it....came about thru 'natural , accidental ,non intelligent' sources purely by chance ? 4. Tries to pretend that there are no absolute moral laws which he has to live by ... even though he expects and demands others treat himself with absolute morality (and all the time) ? ...and many other examples . For a thorough examination of the tremendous FAITH an atheist must have, get the book 'I Dont Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist' by Dr. Norman Geisler. But...only if youre willing to want the truth -- even if it hurts the ego. > DD, Nothing is so silly as 'atheism' (no such thing really , cause > everyone knows intrinsically there has to be an infinite Theistic > personal Creator for our Universe There doesn't have to be anything or maybe there is. Each person decides whats best for them to live by. Nobody has and most likely never will be proven right or wrong either way. I believe in letting people live their life their own way and not telling others who don't believe the same as you that they are wrong. If you wish respect for your beliefs then respect others for theirs. On Jun 24, 9:05 pm, miles <n...@nopers.com> I believe in letting > people live their life their own way and not telling others who don't > believe the same as you that they are wrong. If you wish respect for > your beliefs then respect others for theirs. But that would take both common sense and common decency, something that Dimit Dave COMPLETELY lacks <snip> > ...and many other examples . For a thorough examination of the > tremendous FAITH an atheist must have, get the book 'I Dont Have Enough > Faith to be an Atheist' by Dr. Norman Geisler. But...only if youre > willing to want the truth -- even if it hurts the ego. And for another point of view about Dr. Geisler's "contribution" to the literature, go to this Web site: http://www.calvinistgadfly.com/?p=123 Dr. Geisler, who purports to be a Calvinist, is rather poorly thought of by the mainstream Calvinist theologians. He apparently refuses to debate Christians on matters of faith, preferring instead to challenge non-believers in settings that are often arranged by his supporters. kh > 'Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, > it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs.' [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > religion out of : Secular Humanism, hedonism, narcissism, egotism , > sexual immorality, nihlism , and a few other isms. I am SO deeply moved by the philosophical depths your arguments have reached. HOW could I or any others fail to notice their intellectual or philosophical supremacy. We should all defer to your better judgment! kh > 'Perhaps you should keep your religious beliefs to yourself. After all, > it's not a religious forum, it's about RVs.' > > REPLY: But this Country (the USA) was founded on Religious Freedom and > has that as its roots. Whenever i take an RV trip, i always pray and > ask God for safe travels and an enjoyable time ...so, they are related. That's an interesting dichotomy. You claim that the USA was founded on the basis of religious freedom (completely ignoring the economic interests of the "founding fathers"), and yet you rail against those whose beliefs do not comport with yours. Is there a conflict here? Also, what is the evidence that your prayers ("I pray and ask god for safe travels..") has actually resulted in safe travel for you? Are you otherwise an unsafe driver without that boon? kh Try IRV2 or ESCAPEES. IRV2 has had an interesting 'right side of center' discussion of this very sort the last few weeks. So long as no filtry language or personal attacks appear, the mods seem content to let 'r ride. Been fun. Dean >> RecRVtravel is a NG far worse than this or any imaginable ; if you >> see an RV related post in there, its nothing short of a miracle. This [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >I have no need for crap like that. 'I post a religious signature line that is more for me than anything else I'm told to remove it cause somebody is gonna die cause they saw the word GOD. I have no need for crap like that. ' REPLY: Dont know why they would be upset about the word GOD ; afterall .. theyre going to meet him soon , he is the personal Creator (instead of Hydrogen Gas), this Nation was founded on God and his principles for living, and there isnt a larger more important issue to be had. I think its just that many people want to be their own 'god' , and its a reminder that they arent. On Jun 24, 5:16 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: <SNIP> Oh crap! Here we go again with Dimwit's religious fantasies >RecRVtravel is a NG far worse than this or any imaginable ; if you >see an RV related post in there, its nothing short of a miracle. This >NG is educational , enjoyable, and has some interesting characters too >boot. Shad in particular. Chad is about as interesting as a wart on the head of a penis. Entertaining perhaps, but not interesting. |
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