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sagehen - 27 Jun 2007 14:02 GMT We have a travel trailer that we just bought. We are new to this. Question is this. If you use your trailer about once a month for a weekend and keep it in storage the rest of the time, do you empty the black tank every time you use it? There are just two of us.
HD Matt - 27 Jun 2007 14:15 GMT > We have a travel trailer that we just bought. We are new to this. > Question is this. If you use your trailer about once a month for a > weekend and keep it in storage the rest of the time, do you empty the > black tank every time you use it? There are just two of us. Yes. Always. I don't think I would want that stuff fermenting in the tank for a month, do you?
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sagehen - 27 Jun 2007 14:30 GMT On Jun 27, 7:15 am, HD Matt <nospammb...@multiprintinc.comnospam> wrote:
> In article <1182949367.117998.220...@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Delete nospam for email > "Where did you say we are going again, Dear?" I thought so but I promised my husband I would ask.
Thank you for your quick response.
Janet Wilder - 27 Jun 2007 15:58 GMT > On Jun 27, 7:15 am, HD Matt <nospammb...@multiprintinc.comnospam> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thank you for your quick response. I hope you checked back for other responses. When you are going to empty that tank after just a weekend of 2 people, fill it to at least 2/3 full before emptying. Empty the black tank before emptying the gray tank, that way the gray water will rinse out your sewer hose.
If you don't have a built-in tank rinser, you might consider sticking a water hose into the commode to rinse it. Don't use your drinking water hose!!
The solids in your black tank will not have enough time to decompose in just a weekend. Dumping a tank with very little liquid will allow the solids to pile up on the tank bottom. That is something you do not want to happen. Just hold the pedal down and let the water level in the tank come up before you dump it.
Janet
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Harry Harris - 27 Jun 2007 16:07 GMT What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human bodily waste with blacks?
The correct word to use is brown water for flushed human waste, gray water for sink water.
Use the term 'holding tank' for the container that holds one or both of the above, please.
There's no such thing as a "black tank."
Harry Harris
>> We have a travel trailer that we just bought. We are new to this. >> Question is this. If you use your trailer about once a month for a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes. Always. I don't think I would want that stuff fermenting in the > tank for a month, do you?
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Val in Boise - 27 Jun 2007 16:28 GMT On Jun 27, 9:07 am, "Harry Harris" <har...@thehilltopcafe.notagoodaddy> wrote:
> What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human bodily > waste with blacks? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Janet, thanks. I forwarded your note to my husband at work. I really, really appreciate your info.
Val in Boise
Janet Wilder - 28 Jun 2007 01:53 GMT > Janet, thanks. I forwarded your note to my husband at work. I > really, really appreciate your info. > > Val in Boise You are quite welcome, Val. I wish you and your husband safe and happy travels.
Janet
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Harry Harris - 27 Jun 2007 16:35 GMT Hmmmm. Looks like I was wrong. You RVers use different terminology that I do. But, I still don't care for the term "black tank." Holding tank is much more politically correct.
Anyway, here's a link that says it's NOT a good idea to empty an almost empty holding tank. http://ezinearticles.com/?RV-Tips-for-Holding-Tanks&id=171532
Harry Harris
> What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human > bodily waste with blacks? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> Yes. Always. I don't think I would want that stuff fermenting in the >> tank for a month, do you?
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Jim - 27 Jun 2007 23:27 GMT I hate to swim against the tide ('specially when it's black water -) ), but...
I've owned two class B's and now have a 19' '06 Tiger CX. They've mostly been used for solo day trips and a few 1-3 nighters, rarely in a CG. So even the small tanks fill up slowly.
I usually dump every three to six weeks, with no odor problems even in summer, unless I let the sink or shower trap dry out. I add plenty of water to the black tank just before I drive the ~10 miles to the NFS CG where I dump ( $5). I follow the dump with a few-gallon 'rinse' before dumping grey water.
I add a few gallons of water and most of a pack of Thetford Camp-a-Chem dry powder to the black tank (the rest goes in the grey tank; just a habit). I tend to be conservative with water use.
I've gone as much a two months after minor surgery, using the RV, but not dumping; no stink. But as always, YMMV....
Jim, "Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.... sounds like a party to me!"
Ron Recer - 27 Jun 2007 23:52 GMT >I hate to swim against the tide ('specially when it's black water -) ), > but... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jim, "Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.... sounds like a party to me!" I agree with you Jim. Unless there is a problem with the system not dumping the tank after every weekend of use shouldn't be a problem. As long as the toilet seal stays sealed the only place odor can go is up the vent pipe and it is designed to vent that way.
Ron
miles - 28 Jun 2007 01:42 GMT > I agree with you Jim. Unless there is a problem with the system not dumping > the tank after every weekend of use shouldn't be a problem. As long as the > toilet seal stays sealed the only place odor can go is up the vent pipe and > it is designed to vent that way. Not entirely true at all. Most chemicals do not last months especially in the heat of summer. Are people that lazy they can't dump? If there isnt a dump station where I am camped I'll stop at one on the way home.
John Andrews - 28 Jun 2007 03:15 GMT >> I agree with you Jim. Unless there is a problem with the system not >> dumping the tank after every weekend of use shouldn't be a problem. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in the heat of summer. Are people that lazy they can't dump? If there > isnt a dump station where I am camped I'll stop at one on the way home. A point not yet made is to keep that tank wet at all times. Never let the black water tank or the gray water tank dry out. That is asking for trouble with the valves and with a dry crud buildup that can block the valve so it won't dump when you expect it to.
Whenever you dump, you should add a couple of gallons of water back to the tank along with a dose of the chemicals you use. That will keep it wet and whatever remains in the tank will digest and liquefy while it sits. This is good.
John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee
miles - 28 Jun 2007 04:21 GMT > A point not yet made is to keep that tank wet at all times. Never let > the black water tank or the gray water tank dry out. That is asking for > trouble with the valves and with a dry crud buildup that can block the > valve so it won't dump when you expect it to. I dump and then put a few gallons of water into the black tank. I haven't been so good at that with the grey. I did have to replace the black valve this year. Trailer is only 3 years old.
Val in Boise - 28 Jun 2007 19:16 GMT > >> I agree with you Jim. Unless there is a problem with the system not > >> dumping the tank after every weekend of use shouldn't be a problem. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee Good idea. I sent it on to "the boss." Thanks.
Val in Boise
Dean - 29 Jun 2007 02:36 GMT >Hmmmm. Looks like I was wrong. You RVers use different terminology that >I do. But, I still don't care for the term "black tank." Holding tank >is much more politically correct. Ahhhh, pardon my intrusion ... but f.ck your politically correct.
Dean. Not PC.
Val in Boise - 29 Jun 2007 20:10 GMT > On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:35:41 -0400, "Harry Harris" > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dean. Not PC. Are you "f.ck me"ing me because I said "the boss.?"
Val in Boise
Dean - 30 Jun 2007 15:49 GMT >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:35:41 -0400, "Harry Harris" >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Val in Boise Your politically correct comment had absolutely nothing to do with a boss. It referred to black tank. Black tanks are black water tanks. Black people have over the years had a hell of a time deciding what they want us 'honkies' to call them. I use words I choose, not because some rabble rousing racially prejudiced agitator says it is ok.
miles - 29 Jun 2007 03:42 GMT > Hmmmm. Looks like I was wrong. You RVers use different terminology that > I do. But, I still don't care for the term "black tank." Holding tank > is much more politically correct. Holding tank doesn't specify whether its toilet waste or sink and shower waste.
> Anyway, here's a link that says it's NOT a good idea to empty an almost > empty holding tank. > http://ezinearticles.com/?RV-Tips-for-Holding-Tanks&id=171532 Thats true if you're camping trip isn't over yet. But a dump and flush and then add some fresh water when storing is always a good thing.
Harry Harris - 11 Jul 2007 20:15 GMT >> Hmmmm. Looks like I was wrong. You RVers use different terminology >> that I do. But, I still don't care for the term "black tank." >> Holding tank is much more politically correct. > > Holding tank doesn't specify whether its toilet waste or sink and > shower waste. Correct me if I'm wrong but when you hook up to empty your holding tanks they both go into the same sewer don't they? So what's the real use of having two different holding tanks? Why not dump all the waste water into the same tank?
Harry Harris
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daveleejd@cox.net - 11 Jul 2007 17:49 GMT >What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human bodily >waste with blacks? So, are you saying the word 'black' can only refer to the people?? You really are a dimwit, propane and all
Harry Harris - 11 Jul 2007 20:08 GMT >>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>bodily >>waste with blacks? > > So, are you saying the word 'black' can only refer to the people?? You > really are a dimwit, propane and all Black clearly refers to African Americans. Naming a sewage tank after them is a clear racial slur in my humble opinion. Wouldn't "sewage holding tank" be more descriptive and less of a racial slur? The water in the sewage holding tank is clearly not black. It's clearly no more black than it's white. So, why not call it a "white tank?" See what I mean?
Harry Harris
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Frank Tabor - 11 Jul 2007 20:39 GMT >>>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>>bodily [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Harry Harris I think I'm going to start calling the tank I sh.t in, Harry Harris. That is a most appropriate name for something that is always full of sh.t.
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Harry Harris - 11 Jul 2007 21:06 GMT >>>>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>>>bodily [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > That is a most appropriate name for something that is always full of > sh.t. Oh, be nice for once. You have to admit I have a good point about this terminology.
Hey Frank. I have a personal question if you don't mind. I 've developed this theory about handedness in people irrespective of which hand they write or eat with. What hand do you wipe your a.s with?
Harry Harris
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Frank Tabor - 11 Jul 2007 21:33 GMT >>>>>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>>>>bodily [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Harry Harris Yours.
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Harry Harris - 11 Jul 2007 21:40 GMT >>>>>>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>>>>>bodily [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Yours. Pretty lame an attempt at humor there...
Now, think about it for a minute. Parents will teach their children to write with their right hand or eat with their right hand. This is because lefties have more difficulties in a righty world. This leads to some people seeming to be right-handed but they may just be re-trained lefties.
Now, when it comes to wiping one's butt no parent that I know of ever taught his kid to use his right hand to wipe his butt. So my theory is you can tell if you're a natural righty or lefty by which hand you use to wipe your a.s. Sound logical?
Harry Harris
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daveleejd@cox.net - 13 Jul 2007 16:52 GMT >>>What a racial slur post! You shouldn't be equating rotting human >>>bodily [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Harry Harris So, Crayola has in the box not the black crayon, but the african american crayon.
In space, we now have an african american hole.
My cat is african american.
What color is your truck? It's african american.
When I was a kid, the cops hit me with an african american jack.
People I despise are african american listed, and girls I like I keep in my little african american book.
And I don't know what your water looks like, but mine is clearly much more black than white, how this is twisted to refer to people is insane. Dopes like you ruin a language, and malign those who use an otherwise useful and descriptive word as racist.
GBinNC - 13 Jul 2007 19:42 GMT >So, Crayola has in the box not the black crayon, but the african >american crayon. ><snip remainder> The only question I have is why would you even try to argue with this nitwit? Please ignore him so the rest of us don't have to see his crap.
GB in NC
Harry Harris - 13 Jul 2007 21:12 GMT >>So, Crayola has in the box not the black crayon, but the african >>american crayon. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > GB in NC Maybe because their posts are more interesting and more entertaining and more on topic than your Net Nanny posts?
Harry Harris
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Jim Redelfs - 17 Jul 2007 00:07 GMT > The only question I have is why would you even try to argue with this > nitwit? Please ignore him so the rest of us don't have to see his crap. Thank-you. Amen.
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