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Back-Seat Driver: It's summer -- when RVs irk some

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Ablang - 11 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT
Back-Seat Driver: It's summer -- when RVs irk some
By Tony Bizjak - Bee Staff Writer

Last Updated 6:17 am PDT Monday, July 9, 2007
Story appeared in METRO section, Page B1

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/262928.html

Come summer, plenty of Sacramentans load up the RVs for a vacation
getaway.

And that brings up a prickly neighborhood issue: Exactly how long is a
recreational vehicle owner allowed to park his RV in his driveway or
on the street in front of his house?

City officials say they get calls this time of year from residents
complaining about whales-on-wheels beached in neighborhoods day after
day, and even week after week.

"It starts after Easter break, and from then on through summer," Max
Fernandez says. He's the city of Sacramento's head of code
enforcement. "We investigate every complaint."

The rule, he says, is different for the area in front of the house as
opposed to the area alongside the house.

It's OK to store a motor home for long periods on a pad beside a
house, as long as the vehicle doesn't stick its nose in front of the
house, and as long as there is 5 feet between the vehicle and the
property line.

But the city ordinance says RVs -- or trailers, auto or trailer
coaches -- cannot be stored for more than 48 hours in the home's
"setback" area. That's basically the driveway or any spot between the
sidewalk and the front of the house. That's city ordinance 15.140.020.

Break the city's 48-hour rule and you could get a $100 ticket.

Fernandez points out the state vehicle code also says no vehicle can
be parked on the street for more than 72 hours.

There are so many junk cars decaying on city streets, it's hard to
keep up. Some sit for so long, they grow their own ecosystems, a code
officer once told us. Some have grass growing in the carpet, or weeds
growing in the wipers. One had polliwogs in it.

If the city gets a complaint about one of those, the warning and
ticket come quickly.

But, Fernandez says, in less serious cases, city code enforcement
officers take each situation as it comes, and they say, at least, they
try not to be hard-derrieres about it.

If a person really is loading or unloading the RV for a trip,
officials may give him some extra time, Fernandez says.

But, he says, you can't keep putting things in and taking things out.

"You can technically load and unload ad infinitum," he says. "To me,
48 to 72 hours is a reasonable amount of time."

If it's the first complaint, the city will cut you some slack, he
says. If it's the third complaint, then you're probably an
inconsiderate neighbor or just darn lazy, and code officers will be
quicker to order the vehicle removed and to issue a ticket.

Keep two things in mind, code officials say:

Your driveway and the street in front of your house are not storage
areas. And, if your neighbors think you have an eyesore out front,
chances are the city codes agree.

Sometimes they find people living in the motor homes on the street.
That's an easy call in most cases: Not legal. But people can get
temporary grants to live in trailers in emergencies.

* * *

Union Pacific, you'll remember, won hurrahs for quickly reassembling
its railroad trestle in the American River Parkway after that big fire
in mid-March.

Since then, however, bicycle commuters have been wondering: What about
us? The bike trail under that trestle remains torn up.

Now, county parks officials say, UP finally is going to finish the
job. Starting today, crews will rebuild a half-mile section of the
trail. The job should take about three weeks, the county's Dave Lydick
says.

Meantime, signs will point cyclists to two alternative detours.

By Lydick's count, it's the sixth straight year that some part of the
bike trail has been torn up.

"We thought this would be the summer finally with no torn-up
sections," he says, sighing.
Dave in Lake Villa - 11 Jul 2007 23:18 GMT
'plenty of Sacramentans load up the RVs for a vacation getaway.'

REPLY:  What does that 'S' word mean anyways ?!   Is this some sort of a
Catholic RVer ???!

'Exactly how long is a recreational vehicle owner allowed to park his RV
in his driveway or on the street in front of his house?'

REPLY: Indefinetly if its in his driveway. Why should that be a concern
for anyone else in the neighborhood ?  ITs certainly not as bad as
compulsive barking dogs  or owners that allow their dogs to deficate on
your property without picking up after it.

'Your driveway and the street in front of your house are not storage
areas. And, if your neighbors think you have an eyesore out front,
chances are the city codes agree.'

REPLY:  My driveway is my property and if i want to store a 55 gallon
drum of Lemonade on it, that is my perogative.  If others think an RV is
'an eyesore', then they can close their drapes or look the other way.
JerryD(upstateNY) - 12 Jul 2007 01:02 GMT
Dave in Lake Villa wrote 'Exactly how long is a recreational vehicle owner
allowed to park his
RV in his driveway or on the street in front of his house?'
REPLY: Indefinetly if its in his driveway. Why should that be a
> concern for anyone else in the
REPLY:  My driveway is my property and if i want to store a 55 gallon drum
of Lemonade on it, that is my perogative.  If others think an RV is 'an
eyesore', then they can close their drapes or look the other way.

You can say anything you want but if a town ordinance says different, you
are just blowing smoke.

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JerryD(upstateNY)

Will Sill - 12 Jul 2007 01:17 GMT
I see where "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jerryd@wherever.com> contributed:
>Dave in Lake Villa wrote
>My driveway is my property and if i want to store a 55 gallon drum
>of Lemonade on it, that is my perogative.  If others think an RV is 'an
>eyesore', then they can close their drapes or look the other way.

JD:
>You can say anything you want but if a town ordinance says different, you
>are just blowing smoke.

Dave is still learning.  Someday he will realize that his "property
rights" are subject to a near-infinite number of laws, regulations and
nannying.   In the meantime his lemonade is leaking and the EPA is on
the way.

Will Sill
The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill
prof_neutrino1@yahoo.com - 12 Jul 2007 04:52 GMT
> Dave is still learning.  Someday he will realize that his "property
> rights" are subject to a near-infinite number of laws, regulations and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Will Sill
> The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill

Dave never "learns" or "listens" to anything or anyone, other than to
those annoying voices in his head

"Deficate"?   Perhaps he should just say "Crap" Or "sh.t" like normal
people
Dave in Lake Villa - 12 Jul 2007 13:04 GMT
'You can say anything you want but if a town ordinance says different,
you are just blowing smoke.
Signature

JerryD(upstateNY)'

REPLY:  I wouldnt live in a town like that. ANd if an ordinance was
passed in the town i live in,  id lobby to ban it.

Chris Cowles - 12 Jul 2007 02:46 GMT
> REPLY:  My driveway is my property and if i want to store a 55
> gallon
> drum of Lemonade on it, that is my perogative.  If others think an
> RV is
> 'an eyesore', then they can close their drapes or look the other
> way.

You apparently don't live in a neighborhood with deed restrictions. If
you did, you agreed by legal contract to abide by them, when you
bought the property.
Signature

Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

Hugh - 12 Jul 2007 15:41 GMT
snipped
> You apparently don't live in a neighborhood with deed restrictions. If
> you did, you agreed by legal contract to abide by them, when you
> bought the property.

This "Dave" character is a troll. Feeding trolls leads to mental illness
<g>.
Hugh
Dave in Lake Villa - 12 Jul 2007 23:55 GMT
'This "Dave" character is a troll. Feeding trolls leads to mental
illness <g>.
Hugh '

REPLY:  What definition of Troll do you use ?  Just someone that you
dont like ?  How can i be any sort of 'a Troll' when i own a new Class
C.,  come here to talk RV business,  etc..  ?   GIve you definition of
'a Troll'  and lets see if i meet it .
Ken - 13 Jul 2007 15:40 GMT
> This "Dave" character is a mtroll. Feeding trolls leads to mental illness
> <g>.
> Hugh

Dimwitted dave is an a.shole, labeling him as a troll is being way too
nice...K
 
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