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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2007A question about propane
My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, water heater, and my BBQ. Part of the reason is that you can only fill the tank to 80% of capacity, which is a puny 22.4 gallons. So here is my solution. I've figured out how to buy a second 28 gallon tank and install it on the opposite side of the MH, and then run the pipe and hoses under the MH to connect to the main propane supply, but still am not satisfied with the amount of propane this will allow me to carry. What good is 44 gallons when a person wants to use a lot of propane appliances. So, I've also measured across the back bumper of the rig, and calculate I can install 5, 10 gallon propane tanks there. Connect them all together and now I can carry what I consider barely enough propane, but I don't want to put more tanks on the front of the rig because it will cut down on air flow to the engine. So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to attach the tanks to the back bumper?  Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com > My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I > don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? Haven't you heard about Gorilla Glue? Gorilla Glue now makes Gorilla Duct Tape. I see where "Bob Hatch" <bobhatch@go.com> trolled shamelessly: >So, I've also measured across the back bumper of the rig, and calculate I >can install 5, 10 gallon propane tanks there. Connect them all together and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to >attach the tanks to the back bumper? I recommend buying a used propane tank truck, and use it to tow yer coach as a toad. Aside from the obvious benefit of having Enough Propane, it will assure that Harry Harris will not stay in the same county with you. 8-) Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill : My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I : don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to : attach the tanks to the back bumper? So is Friday the 13th on par with April 1st now? <G> If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. >My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I >don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to >attach the tanks to the back bumper? I see where Dean <roamer@firstinter.net> contributed: >If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. It's called humor, too. Will "A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow Man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money." G. Gordon Liddy >If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. > ><snip> If he's a shithead it's not because of this humorous post. At least he doesn't top-post like some. GB in NC I only top post in response to shitheads! >>If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >GB in NC > If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to >>attach the tanks to the back bumper? Obviously you haven't been paying attention. SignatureFrank Tabor We are giving instruction to FBI agents in the various Chinese dialects ... to handle present and likely future contingencies. -- J. Edgar Hoover > If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. Hey Dean, how about you send me a postal address, and I'll send you a nickel to go out and buy a sense of humor? I know it's not much, but a nickels worth would be an improvement. Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com > > If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. > > > Hey Dean, how about you send me a postal address, and I'll send you a nickel > to go out and buy a sense of humor? I know it's not much, but a nickels > worth would be an improvement. I thought it was funny. I think one of those 500 gallon home tanks would fit across the back of the coach. You could use a hitch-haul carrier to tote it. I doubt the weight would overload the coach but jus in case add another 20 lbs or so to you rear tires. Make sure it doesn't leak though, wouldn't want to contribute to global warming. ;) SignatureMatt Delete nospam for email "Where did you say we are going again, Dear?" > > If this isn't trolling, I have never seen it. What a shithead. > > > Hey Dean, how about you send me a postal address, and I'll send you a nickel > to go out and buy a sense of humor? I know it's not much, but a nickels > worth would be an improvement. Bob, when I first read this article of yours I laughed, cause I know that you were making a humourous statement. Mr. Harris has outlived his usefulness. We could all be killed walking across a marked walkway. a controlled walkway or even in our own living room watching TV. Just maybe a car/truck/motorhome on PROPANE turns the corner and instead of putting on the brakes they hit the gas peddle and slam into your home and you are in the wrong chair in the living room. When our maker indicates that your number is called..... your on your way. Bingo - Under the B - 6 LOL. PS. I drive my motorhome with the propane on in the fridge, as I like my beer cold after a long drive, & my steaks still frozen. (Many days we drive approx. 14 hours). I don't like the cold & the sooner I get to a warmer climate I'll drive long days!! PPS. I had a truck that was 100% on propane and it was inexpensive to operate(pulling a 30 ft trailer). For example - In 1996 in the Baja peninsula I paid between 5 cents & 8 cent a liter at each fill. Is Mr. Harris indicating that I was more liable to be blown to bits in a propane powered vehicle, versus a gasoline powered vehicle? I felt entirely safe and my vehicles propane tanks were inspected and found to meet all safety standards at the time. I carried approximately 90 Gallons when full. A good range!! PPPS: If it was economically feasible to install a propane system on my gas powered vehicle today, I would entertain the thought. Burt snipped > So, I've also measured across the back bumper of the rig, and calculate I > can install 5, 10 gallon propane tanks there. Connect them all together and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? Bungee cords of course. You wouldn't want to waste time unwrapping baling wire from the tank ensemble. Besides, baling wire would look tacky once it starts to rust. To lengthen the time required from dump to dump, I'd also recommend a dribble valve for the Harry Harris tank. Hugh - anxious to help > My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. > I don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? I must say you have the very same frivolous attitude about propane as the rest of this group that defends it irregardless of the many dangers of it which I have pointed out to them time and time again. Not to mention the safer alternatives to it. But, I've got to think you're just poking fun at their failure to accept the FACT that propane is dangerous and you're going to an extreme to parody their extreme frivolity in the face of very real danger. The thing is they can stick their collective pin-heads into their ostrich holes in the sand all they want but propane can, will and does every day explode people right out of their stupor. Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I must say you have the very same frivolous attitude about propane as > the rest of this group that defends it irregardless of the many > dangers of it which I have pointed out to them time and time again. > Not to mention the safer alternatives to it. Same frivolous attitude my a.s. I make these guys look like amateurs. I drive with my propane on. All the time. I heat my water with propane. I fill up the gas in the MH with propane on. I've driven with the propane furnace running when it's cold. I have an extend a stay T installed so I can set the propane BBQ up next to the MH and use the propane from the main tank. One of these days I'm gonna cook a roast in the oven while I drive to my next location. I keep the fridge on, using propane while I'm on the road. Frivolous, I'm just plan "I don't give a damn" > But, I've got to think you're just poking fun at their failure to > accept the FACT that propane is dangerous and you're going to an > extreme to parody their extreme frivolity in the face of very real > danger. If that's what you think, then your thinker is badly broken, or you don't have a thinker. I'm leaning toward the second. > The thing is they can stick their collective pin-heads into their > ostrich holes in the sand all they Now that's one thing you should excel at. Being a pin-head. I've been watching your dumbass posts for a while, and I've got to say, you've got your head way, way, up an ostrich hole. >want but propane can, will and does > every day explode people right out of their stupor. Bwahahahahahahaha. Damn boy, you're funny. Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com "Harry Harris" wrote in message want but propane can, will and does every day explode people right out of their stupor. This HAS to be the stupidest statement I have seen on this board. I have NEVER heard of a propane explosion in any kind of TT, MH, or 5er. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) snipped > Now that's one thing you should excel at. Being a pin-head. I've been > watching your dumbass posts for a while, and I've got to say, you've got > your head way, way, up an ostrich hole. snipped I feel I must correct you Bob. Since we are calling the black tank a Harry Harris tank and the "ostrich hole" above would normally be called an a.shole, wouldn't it be proper to say Harry has his head way, way up his Harry Harris hole? Hugh > snipped >> Now that's one thing you should excel at. Being a pin-head. I've been [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > way, way up his Harry Harris hole? > Hugh Actually, no. I think that Harry has his head way, way up an ostrich's Harry Harris hole. Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com >>snipped >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Actually, no. I think that Harry has his head way, way up an ostrich's Harry > Harris hole. Ah yes, that works well. Hugh - now enlightened > >>snipped > >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Ah yes, that works well. > Hugh - now enlightened Literally ROTFLMAO!! SignatureMatt Delete nospam for email "Where did you say we are going again, Dear?" > My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the > factory. I don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I > want for furnace, water heater, and my BBQ. Part of the reason is > that you can only fill the tank to 80% of capacity, which is a puny > 22.4 gallons. So here is my solution. Why go to all that trouble when you can take a scenic drive to Dawsonville, GA and ask around the garages until you find the mechanic that puts moonshine tanks under vehicles. He sometimes uses compressed gas type tanks. He will also be able to mount a tank vertical in a spare closet! ;-) Tom J >My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I >don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to >attach the tanks to the back bumper? Velcro will allow for easier removal and remounting, whereas bailing wire will rust quickly, staining the rear, and bungees will stretch and allow the bottles to move, perhaps with a resulting loss of liquid. Who knows.... > So, I've also measured across the back bumper of the rig, and calculate I > can install 5, 10 gallon propane tanks there. Connect them all together and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? > --Dave Barryhttp://www.bobhatch.comhttp://www.tdsrvresort.com Which ever way you decided, don't forget to paint them black. The white ones show rust and dirt much quicker. This will also give you a "professional installation" appearance. Hank <~~~Professional Propane tank Installer Bob Hatch wrote: So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to attach the tanks to the back bumper?<<<<<<<< I'd use the bungee chords. The bailing wire would rust out after a few years. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > I'd use the bungee chords. > The bailing wire would rust out after a few years. Wouldn't 3M blue tape make it easier to remove without damaging the paint? SignatureChris Cowles Gainesville, FL > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? Wow, some really good ideas. Now, how many of you use a macerator to empty your Harry Harris? :-) Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com > how many of you use a macerator to empty > your Harry Harris? :-) Me! It works very well. Dumping/cleaning my Harry Harris tank at home is now a regular practice. Signature:) JR > So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? Bungee cords will allow the tank to move and bounce around while traveling resulting in tank rupture and explosion. Bailing wire will rub against the tank and eventually cut a hole into the tank resulting in an explosion. I would therefore use duct tape. Bob when did you convert from your kerosine heater?? Are you going modern and becoming uppity? >My motorhome has a 28 gallon propane tank as shipped from the factory. I >don't think this is enough propane to last as long as I want for furnace, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >So here is the question. Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to >attach the tanks to the back bumper? > Bob when did you convert from your kerosine heater?? Are you going > modern and becoming uppity? I intend to keep the kerosene heater as a backup. I will of course have to cut down on the amount of kerosene I carry if I add the propane as planned. But you've given me a new idea. Instead of adding all the additional propane tanks, I can use Will's idea of a propane truck, except I'll cut the tank off the truck and convert it to a propane trailer, tow the trailer full of propane behind the MH, the toad behind the propane trailer. Woho. Thanks. Ya, that's it, carry like 1,000 gallons of propane. I'll bet the price goes down when you buy in quantity. :-) Signature"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'" --Dave Barry http://www.bobhatch.com http://www.tdsrvresort.com >Ya, that's it, carry like 1,000 gallons of propane. I'll bet the price goes >down when you buy in quantity. :-) In fact, it does. My last purchase was 611 gallons in my 1000-gallon tank here at home -- and I asked for, and got, a significant discount. Paid $1.97/gal, down from about $2.35 (IIRC) regular price then. GB in NC > Should I use bungee cords, or bailing wire to > attach the tanks to the back bumper? Bungee cords, of course. But not the heavy, black (oops, make that "monochrome") cords used by truckers. Use the multi-colored ones (5/$1) that bicyclists use - and LOVE because they represent color diversity. These bungee cords are much more likely to break in a rearend collision thereby increasing the chance of an RV-related propane fire, vindicating the wild-@$$ed claims by a resident troll. Git right on that project, will ya? Signature:) JR |
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