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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2007Wonderful weekend
in our 19' JayFlight. Easy to pull, park, etc. All comforts of home. Wish we could find a nice, cool place to go. Even mountains are blistering in Idaho. Air conditioner worked great. At least it cooled off in the evenings. Hope we can use it more. Val in Boise > in our 19' JayFlight. Easy to pull, park, etc. All comforts of > home. Wish we could find a nice, cool place to go. Even mountains [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Val in Boise We just spent the weekend at Goose Lake up by Mc Call was pretty decent about 80* to 90* during the day. Got in a little canoeing and fishing and just generally relaxed. Defiantly beat Boise but then we had to come back down. Jim -- >Defiantly beat Boise Suggestion: Look up "defiantly." Then look up "definitely." GB in NC > > Defiantly beat Boise > > Suggestion: Look up "defiantly." Then look up "definitely." > > GB in NC Just because we have some real pretty country doesn't mean we have to know how to spell. My spell checker let me down (she was outside) besides I bet you knew what I meant. Jim :>) -- >> > Defiantly beat Boise >> >> Suggestion: Look up "defiantly." Then look up "definitely." >> >> GB in NC >Just because we have some real pretty country doesn't mean we have to >know how to spell. My spell checker let me down (she was outside) >besides I bet you knew what I meant. Jim :>) Okay. Here's a serious question that I've been wanting to ask somebody, and you're gonna be "it": When you run a spellchecker, and it sees a word you misspelled and makes an alternative suggestion -- in this case a wrong one -- don't you look at the suggestion and say to yourself "No, that isn't what I meant"? Or do you just blindly accept whatever it suggests and hope it's the right word? I'm serious. I never use spellcheckers (I don't know that I even have one), so I have trouble understanding how people so often use them and *still* come up with the wrong words. "Defiantly" just doesn't look at all like "definitely," to me. The "a" that begins the third syllable is a dead giveaway, since there's no "a" sound in "definitely." Didn't this occur to you? Truly, I'm not arguing or criticizing, I'm just asking. Help me understand this spellchecker phenomenon. GB in NC >>> > Defiantly beat Boise >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > GB in NC I only use the spell checker to auto-correct my TYPING mistakes. I normally don't have a problem with spelling. When it suggests a word that isn't correct, I know it isn't correct, so I just go back and type the correct spelling. I'm just usually too lazy to retype it.  SignatureFrank Tabor Eighteen goddess-like daughters are not equal to one son with a hump. -- Chinese Proverb > >>> > Defiantly beat Boise > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Maybe he MEANT defiantly. Ever think of that? I personally think the heat defiantly beat the 100 degree heat in Boise. Val in Boise >Maybe he MEANT defiantly. Ever think of that? I personally think the >heat defiantly beat the 100 degree heat in Boise. I guess anything's possible. But the definitions of defiantly, defiant, and defiance imply actions by people. Whatever.... GB in NC > Truly, I'm not arguing or criticizing, I'm just asking. Help me > understand this spellchecker phenomenon. A spell checker will not, for reasons that are obvious to me, "choke" on a CORRECTLY spelled word. A "usage checker" they (usually) are not. "Defiantly" was correctly spelled. If he correctly spelled the WRONG word, I am not aware of any checker, save perhaps that of a full-blown MSWord installation, that would object. Another thing to consider and, for those of us that use and "educate" their spell checker, is a misspelled word that was once ADDED to the custom dictionary. Obviously, the spell checker will not highlight the word in the future, regardless of its usage. I have done this very thing, intentionally, to educate my spell checker to NOT trip over those few words and phrases (slang, etc) I occasionally use albeit spelled wrong. I ALWAYS use the spell checker feature of my newsreader. However, I always carefully read (and re-read) my article prior to clicking the POST button. I rarely post something that takes fewer than a couple of minutes to compose. Still, an error makes it through occasionally. It is usually a correctly spelled, WRONG word. <sigh> Signature:) JR >"Defiantly" was correctly spelled. If he correctly spelled the WRONG word, I >am not aware of any checker, save perhaps that of a full-blown MSWord >installation, that would object. I guess I was assuming that he misspelled "definitely" and the SC saw it and suggested "defiantly." What I wondered was what happened at that point -- did he not see that it wasn't the word he wanted? Or did he just assume (uh-oh <g>) that the SC knew what it was doing and said "Okay, use that"? That's where my puzzlement lies -- not in what the SC does, but what the *user* does in response to it. A SC can be a wonderful writing tool for folks who need it, but only if the user pays attention to what it says. >Still, an error makes it through occasionally. It is usually a correctly >spelled, WRONG word. <sigh> Yep. I see a lot of those (not necessarily in your posts, but in general). GB in NC >I was assuming that he misspelled "definitely" Essentially, he did. Unfortunately, he used the CORRECT spelling of a similar word. > and the SC saw it and suggested "defiantly." What I wondered was what > happened at that point -- did he not see that it wasn't the word he > wanted? Or did he just assume (uh-oh <g>) that the SC knew what it > was doing and said "Okay, use that"? That's where my puzzlement lies -- > not in what the SC does, but what the *user* does in response to it. While I cannot speak for the OP, when my spell checker gags on a word I've written, I *VERY* carefully examine its suggested alternates before making a selection if more than one is listed or selecting the a lone alternate. > A SC can be a wonderful writing tool for folks who need it, > but only if the user pays attention to what it says. Absolutely. I am ALWAYS suspicious of what my machine "thinks" I should be writing differently. A spell checker IS a useful tool, but I don't truly NEED it. It's just more convenient than regularly searching my 11th edition of Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary an arm's length from my keyboard. (Which is very handy when reading a W.F. Buckley article.) At the risk of being considered too cynical, I believe that those that really NEED a spell checker are the least likely to USE one. Signature:) JR >While I cannot speak for the OP, when my spell checker gags on a word I've >written, I *VERY* carefully examine its suggested alternates before making a >selection if more than one is listed or selecting the a lone alternate. And that was my question -- wondering if others do that or just accept whatever the SC says. >> A SC can be a wonderful writing tool for folks who need it, >> but only if the user pays attention to what it says. > >Absolutely. I am ALWAYS suspicious of what my machine "thinks" I should be >writing differently. Which is one reason I tossed away my first (and only) "grammar checker" years ago. >At the risk of being considered too cynical, I believe that those that really >NEED a spell checker are the least likely to USE one. Good point. GB in NC > > While I cannot speak for the OP, when my spell checker gags on a > > word I've written, I VERY carefully examine its suggested [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > GB in NC The actual point, in spite of the wrong word, was it was better to be in the mountains at 80* to 90* kicking back and relaxing than in Boise at 105*. Jim :>) -- >The actual point, in spite of the wrong word, was it was better to be >in the mountains at 80* to 90* kicking back and relaxing than in Boise >at 105*. Jim :>) I'll go along with that -- although I've never even been to Boise (defiantly or otherwise <g>). GB in NC >>> A SC can be a wonderful writing tool for folks who need it, >>> but only if the user pays attention to what it says. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Which is one reason I tossed away my first (and only) "grammar checker" > years ago. I gave up on my first grammar checker when it told me "This sentence may not contain a verb." The sentence in question contained the verb "is". Any grammar checker (Microsoft's) that doesn't recognize the most fundamental verb in any language is highly suspect. -Raf SignatureMisifus- Rafael Seibert mailto:rafseibert@suddenlink.net blog: http://rafsrincon.blogspot.com/ Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rafiii home: http://www.rafandsioux.com > >> > Defiantly beat Boise > >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > GB in NC When I use a spell checker and the word doesn't look right I reach for the dictionary and if that doesn't help I ask the wife she is a lot better at spelling than me. When I get the correct spelling I add it to the spell checker. Spell checkers are not infallible (after all they were programmed by people) just convenient Jim -- > > in our 19' JayFlight. Easy to pull, park, etc. All comforts of > > home. Wish we could find a nice, cool place to go. Even mountains [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -- We were taking care of three grandsons, ages 6, 4, and 2. That might be why we couldn't cool off. Running around after them. Definitely, camping by a lake sounds cooler and nicer. I was so tired I have slept most of today. Val in Boise |
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