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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / July 2007

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towing a 15 TT with an older Astrovan

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Pico - 24 Jul 2007 17:30 GMT
Hi,
I wanted to put this out there and get some feed back.

I currently own a 95 astro van (extended) basic model.  No tow
package.
I would like to head off to Baha Mexico this winter, it's a 10,000km
(6500mile) round trip from Vancouver BC.

The TT I am considering is a 13ft Trillium f/g travel trailer, it's
GVRW is 1650lbs.

The van is in good mechanical condition, high KM's (300,000).  Does
not burn any oil (yet).

Do you think it's possible to make this trip without major amounts of
driving stress and strain on the van and myself.  I do understand that
the van would need a different differential, a TT cooler, a oil
cooler, and a hitch with a electric brake system.  Am I wasting my
time here, or should I try to find a full size truck or van to pull a
trailer like this.  Oh and we do plan on staying down there for a few
months, so I imagine that the van will be loaded with camping gear,
sports equip ect ect.

Your comments appreciated!

Gerry
JerryD(upstateNY) - 24 Jul 2007 19:26 GMT
I currently own a 95 astro van (extended) basic model.  No tow package. I
would like to head off to Baha Mexico this winter, it's a 10,000km
(6500mile) round trip from Vancouver BC.
The TT I am considering is a 13ft Trillium f/g travel trailer, it's GVRW is
1650lbs.
The van is in good mechanical condition, high KM's (300,000).  Does not burn
any oil (yet).
Do you think it's possible to make this trip without major amounts of
driving stress and strain on the van and myself.  I do understand that the
van would need a different differential, a TT cooler, a oil cooler, and a
hitch with a electric brake system.  Am I wasting my time here, or should I
try to find a full size truck or van to pull a trailer like this.  Oh and we
do plan on staying down there for a few
months, so I imagine that the van will be loaded with camping gear, sports
equip ect ect.

First, you don't say which engine you have.
If it's the 4 cylinder, you have a problem.
Then an Astro van is only a so-so towing vehicle and the extended van is
even worse.
If you were towing the trailer almost empty and the van was almost empty, I
would say you were probably OK.
But if you load up the TT and load up the van, you will be in trouble.
Changing a differential would be a waste of money in a 1995 vehicle with
300,000km on it.
Better off putting that money toward a better vehicle.
As far as buying another vehicle.....If you can buy a late model, series
2500, pickup truck you would be much better off.
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Hugh - 24 Jul 2007 20:25 GMT
> Hi,
> I wanted to put this out there and get some feed back.
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>
> Gerry

I think you've got it pretty much covered. The Astro is work
truck based and makes a pretty good tow vehicle. For a trailer
that light I'd just go with a transmission cooler. Forget about
changing the differential. Even if it's the 3.08 it will still
pull fine. The V6 in the Astro is a 4.3L derived from the 5.7L V8.
The transmission is the same one used in the 1500 pickups.

Relax and have fun.
Hugh
Steve Barker - 24 Jul 2007 20:55 GMT
don't do it.  A mini van is not a tow vehicle.

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> Hi,
> I wanted to put this out there and get some feed back.
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>
> Gerry
Tom  J - 24 Jul 2007 21:08 GMT
> don't do it.  A mini van is not a tow vehicle.

He'll have mostly flat land in the US and once he hits those hills in
Baha, he can drop gears until it pulls OK. He'll still be going faster
than some of the carts you see from time to time as you travel along.

Have fun!!

Tom J
Jim Redelfs - 25 Jul 2007 13:48 GMT
> Do you think it's possible to make this trip without
> major amounts of driving stress and strain on the van and myself.

No.  I can't think of a better way to "finish off" 12-year-old minivan
with >186,000-miles on the clock.

> I do understand that the van would need a different differential,
> a TT cooler, a oil cooler, and a hitch with a electric brake system.

The Trollometer<tm> is REALLY deflecting now.   <sigh>

The CO$T of the improvements you mention are worth more than the van itself.

> Am I wasting my time here

Yes, and I suspect I am, too.

> or should I try to find a full size truck or van to pull a trailer
> like this.  Oh and we do plan on staying down there for a few months,
> so I imagine that the van will be loaded with camping gear, sports
> equip ect ect.

Without a more capable tow vehicle, your time will be spent either broken down
along the side of the road or working on the Astro instead of recreating.  You
would likely return home without the trailer OR the Astro.
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JR

Jonathan King - 25 Jul 2007 14:04 GMT
> Hi,
> I wanted to put this out there and get some feed back.
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>
> Gerry

No problem if the trip is on flat ground and all highway miles. Hills, dirt
roads, stop and go driving will kill the van. Your upgrades will cost more
than the van is worth. If you operate a high mileage vehicle outside of the
parameters it was operated to get to the high mileage it will die a quick
death.

JK
Rich256 - 25 Jul 2007 15:08 GMT
> Hi,
> I wanted to put this out there and get some feed back.
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>
> Gerry

You should not have any trouble with that trailer beyond what you
might have with a vehicle with that much use.  Your tow rating is at
or above 5000 pounds.  I pulled 3500 trailers all over the rocky
mountain area with an 88 Safari.  Just to be safe it would be a good
idea to add a transmission cooler.
Pico - 25 Jul 2007 16:52 GMT
Thanks all!!

Good comments, some good advice.  I'll have the van checked and go
from there.

Gerry
 
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