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Dometic Fridge Light Stays On

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Ulysses - 18 Aug 2007 01:11 GMT
Hi.

I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.  It was getting cold then suddenly
it wasn't.  I discovered that the interior light was staying on which might
account for the lack of cold.  The problem is that the switch for the light
is OK but the light will not turn off.  Removing the bulb does not seem to
help with the cooling.  Anyone know if this means a bad circuit board or
something like that?  I have another Dometic fridge (smaller Americana) and
when the light burns out it blows the 3 amp fuse on the circuit board and
the refrigerator appears to be working (on propane) but it doesn't get cold.
Once the fuse is replaced it works fine.  I checked the fuses on the 1292
and they are both fine.  Anything else I should check?

I googled but could find nobody else with this problem.

Thanks.
Janet Wilder - 18 Aug 2007 01:50 GMT
> Hi.
>
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>
> Thanks.

Do you have a "cold weather" switch or something with a similar name?

Check inside the door. There are usually two settings: high humidity and
cold weather. The cold weather switch will keep the light bulb lit when
the door is closed.

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Ulysses - 18 Aug 2007 01:52 GMT
> > Hi.
> >
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> cold weather. The cold weather switch will keep the light bulb lit when
> the door is closed.

Aha!  I just found it thanks to an old post (did a little more googling)
that you had replied to.  I must have hit the switch by accident.  It's up
there where you can't see it unless you really look for it.

Thanks very much.
Janet Wilder - 18 Aug 2007 03:00 GMT
>>> Hi.
>>>
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>
> Thanks very much.

You are  welcome. I had the same problem once and kept on replacing bulb
after bulb until one  bulb salesman told me about the switch. (blush)

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Frank Howell - 18 Aug 2007 15:19 GMT
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
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> bulb after bulb until one  bulb salesman told me about the switch.
> (blush)

Bulb after bulb...........that's priceless.

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Jon Griffin - 18 Aug 2007 14:35 GMT
>I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.  It was getting cold then suddenly
>it wasn't.  I discovered that the interior light was staying on which might
>account for the lack of cold.

Try http://www.bryantrv.com/.  He has a lot of refrig manuals on line.
Might find your problem.

Jon

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Ulysses - 19 Aug 2007 00:34 GMT
> >I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.  It was getting cold then suddenly
> >it wasn't.  I discovered that the interior light was staying on which might
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>
> Jon

Wow, the master Dometic Manual!  Thanks!  Now if I can just get that big
file with my dialup...
Harry Harris - 18 Aug 2007 19:24 GMT
> Hi.
>
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>
> Thanks.

I hope that bulb doesn't have a short. If it does it could cause a
propane explosion in your RV.

Harry Harris

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Technobarbarian - 18 Aug 2007 19:45 GMT
> I hope that bulb doesn't have a short. If it does it could cause a propane
> explosion in your RV.

  lol, I hope this post just lost its smiley somewhere along the way.

TB
Harry Harris - 18 Aug 2007 19:57 GMT
>> I hope that bulb doesn't have a short. If it does it could cause a
>> propane explosion in your RV.
>
>   lol, I hope this post just lost its smiley somewhere along the way.
>
> TB

It's no laughing matter. Read this:
http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18592913.cfm

Harry Harris

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Hugh - 18 Aug 2007 20:04 GMT
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> It's no laughing matter. Read this:
> http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18592913.cfm
>
> Harry Harris

Bullshit.
Hugh
Technobarbarian - 19 Aug 2007 01:47 GMT
>>> I hope that bulb doesn't have a short. If it does it could cause a
>>> propane explosion in your RV.
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> It's no laughing matter. Read this:
> http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18592913.cfm

   LOL, Dude! Get a grip. It's a bit unclear what part of that stuff you're
talking about. I assume you're refering to the RV that had a fire when they
turned the refrigerator on. Was this your first introduction to the idea
that propane burns and can even explode under certain circumstances?

    Look, here's the thing: Propane refrigerators, even the fanciest new
ones work by heating the refrigerant. In a properly functioning propane
refer when it cycles on a flame is lit to heat the refrigerant--real fire.
*IF* the problem in the story you linked to was a malfunctioning control
board the fire was probably started by the normal ignition system for the
refrigerator burner and NOT a shorted bulb. If you have a propane leak
anywhere, including one caused by a malfuntioning control board, a shorted
bulb inside the refrigerator is one of the least likely ignition points
among many. It's far more likely that it will be ignited by the normal
ignition cycle of  refrigerator or some other ignition source. If you have a
serious propane leak a shorted bulb in the refer is among the smallest
problems in your life at that point.

TB
GBinNC - 19 Aug 2007 02:47 GMT
>    LOL, Dude! Get a grip. It's a bit unclear what part of that stuff you're
>talking about. I assume you're refering to the RV that had a fire when they
>turned the refrigerator on. Was this your first introduction to the idea
>that propane burns and can even explode under certain circumstances?
><snipped for brevity>

Dennis, please don't waste your keystrokes on this gentleman. We've been
through this before. He has a bug up his butt about propane (for what
reason I do not understand).

You're just encouraging him. Please spare us his further rants....

GB in NC
Technobarbarian - 19 Aug 2007 04:29 GMT
>>    LOL, Dude! Get a grip. It's a bit unclear what part of that stuff
>> you're
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>
> You're just encouraging him. Please spare us his further rants....

   uh, thanks for the heads up. I haven't been following alt.rv lately so I
had missed his previous posts on this and, ahem, some other topics. My
personal opinion is that the troll label is thrown around much too easily
these days and cheapens the designation, but it seems to fit this person
well. It looks like you are calling him a "gentleman" simply because you are
too much of a gentleman yourself. Judging by the........er..........tone of
some his posts I assume he hit so many kill files that alt.rv became boring
for him.

   Until they hit a certain posting volume or a certain level of insanity,
or sanity--which is sometimes equally noticable, I generally don't notice
people on usenet as individuals. Now that this one has been pointed out to
me I'll probably notice him next time. OTOH I do have a certain soft spot
for misfits, if they meet my minimal standards. This one doesn't.

TB
GBinNC - 19 Aug 2007 04:39 GMT
>    uh, thanks for the heads up. I haven't been following alt.rv lately so I
>had missed his previous posts on this and, ahem, some other topics. My
>personal opinion is that the troll label is thrown around much too easily
>these days and cheapens the designation, but it seems to fit this person
>well.

I can't tell whether he's a troll or just a true dumbass, but either
way, I have no need to read anything he writes.

GB in NC
Technobarbarian - 19 Aug 2007 05:08 GMT
>>    uh, thanks for the heads up. I haven't been following alt.rv lately so
>> I
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> I can't tell whether he's a troll or just a true dumbass, but either
> way, I have no need to read anything he writes.

    lol, you must have kill filed him before he started swimming for the
bottom of usenet. After I read your post I did a little googling. At times
he crosses the line into really ugly trolling. Up until it got to be clearly
irrational I could deal with the propane rants *here*, but that's actually
some of his best stuff. He's quite willing to sink to a much more infantile
level.

TB
GBinNC - 19 Aug 2007 12:55 GMT
>> I can't tell whether he's a troll or just a true dumbass, but either
>> way, I have no need to read anything he writes.

>     lol, you must have kill filed him before he started swimming for the
>bottom of usenet.

It doesn't take me long for somebody like him.

GB in NC
Steven Vaughan - 19 Aug 2007 19:34 GMT
>    Until they hit a certain posting volume or a certain level of insanity,
> or sanity--which is sometimes equally noticable, I generally don't notice
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> TB

He was safe, sound, and quiet in my killfile- until you bounced him into
existence. If yoy guys insist on playing with the trolls, would it be too
much to ask to add "OT" or "Troll" to the Subject line? Thanks.
GBinNC - 19 Aug 2007 19:49 GMT
>If you guys insist on playing with the trolls, would it be too
>much to ask to add "OT" or "Troll" to the Subject line? Thanks.

Good idea, except that strictly speaking, some of his trollcasts have
actually been ON topic.

GB in NC
Technobarbarian - 19 Aug 2007 20:06 GMT
>>    Until they hit a certain posting volume or a certain level of
>> insanity,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> existence. If yoy guys insist on playing with the trolls, would it be too
> much to ask to add "OT" or "Troll" to the Subject line? Thanks.

    On my server he has exactly two current posts to this group. Both of
them were on topic. My personal opinion is that at times he has trolled
other groups. But, that is a matter of personal opinion. Until they so
clearly cross over the line into full fledged troll, such as in the recent
Mark Foley/bobandcarol posts, that there is no doubt as to their intent I
will not add "Troll" to the subject line because the troll designation is
wildly over used these days and is often used as just a way to discredit
people with unpopular opinions. Once they clearly cross over the line into
full fledged troll only a boob would respond and your chances of getting
boobs to add "Troll" to the subject line is pretty slim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

TB
Dean - 19 Aug 2007 20:44 GMT
>     Look, here's the thing: Propane refrigerators, even the fanciest new
>ones work by heating the refrigerant. In a properly functioning propane
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>
>TB

By definition a bulb is "shorted" by the very wire that heats and
produces incandescent light.  The heat is enclosed by a bulb holding a
vacuum.  Were the wire to open, any spark would be contained in the
bulb.  Should the bulb break, the wire will open almost immediately.
OTOH, a bulb shorting in the socket will blow a fuse in the circuit.
Since a short could cause a spark, it would be a billion to one shot
for the spark to ignite anything since it is of very short duration
and nowhere near the propane.

Another "Moron Myth" debunked to a near certitude.
Harry Harris - 19 Aug 2007 22:11 GMT
> By definition a bulb is "shorted" by the very wire that heats and
> produces incandescent light.  The heat is enclosed by a bulb holding a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Another "Moron Myth" debunked to a near certitude.

Not so fast. Not so fast.

You seem to have forgotten about the wires that connect to the socket.
They could have a short and be making a spark. They could have gotten
rubbed thin or bare by the motion and vibration driving down the road.
Did you ever use one of those propane lighters for barbeques with the
long snout? When you click them it makes a little tiny spark you can't
hardly see. It's enough to light the propane or maybe it's butane -
close enough they are both equally flammable. So an even bigger spark in
the wires near a propane leak could do the same thing. That one poor
fellow who was under his RV trying to put out the fire in the link I
gave almost got knocked unconscious by the impact of the explosion.
That's serious stuff.

Harry Harris

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Hugh - 18 Aug 2007 20:01 GMT
>>I hope that bulb doesn't have a short. If it does it could cause a propane
>>explosion in your RV.
>
>    lol, I hope this post just lost its smiley somewhere along the way.
>
> TB

Nope, this troll just likes to poke us.
Hugh
Wes Reichert - 19 Aug 2007 02:33 GMT
> I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.  

11111111111111111111111111111111

Actually, Ulysses, you DO NOT HAVE  a  Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.
In proper RV parlance, what you have is a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way
REFER, spelled r-e-f-e-r but pronounced r-e-e-f-e-r.

I'm always here to point out the error of your ways should you need my
assistance in the future.

-WR
Ulysses - 20 Aug 2007 22:40 GMT
> > I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.
>
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>
> -WR

Oh my, how embarassing for me.  I've only been doing the RV thing for about
10 years and it takes me a while to catch on.  Probably cause I spend all my
time boondocking or dry-camping and hardly ever talk to other RVers.  Maybe
I need to stay in more.

Actually, maybe I DON'T have a Dometic NDR 1292 because I keep coming across
model numbers like RM1292 etc in the service manuals and none that say
NDR1292.  I sure hope they are the same thing.
Paul Flansburg - 21 Aug 2007 18:53 GMT
> > > I have a Dometic NDR 1292 2-way fridge.
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually, this model does exsist, NDR1292.

http://www.dometicusa.com/refrigerators.php?product=3

-paul
 
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