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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / October 2007Travel Trailer And Boat
We just sold our motorhome and bought a travel trailer. The problem we're facing now is how to combine a weekend of camping and boating. We used to pull our 14' open boat behind the MH but don't think we qualify for one of those Long Load signs and pulling it behind the trailer. LOL Has anyone heard of a carrier that could be used in the back of the pickup with the 8' foot bed? You know, like basically taking the cradle off of the boat trailer, angling it up so we could back the pickup up to the water, use the 12 volt winch to ease it down into the water and reverse the process when loading it back on the pickup. I know it sounds crazy but I suppose anything might be possible with all of the other contraptions they build for camping and boating use. I realize the bow would be above the pickup cab but that would be necessary so the stern wouldn't interfere with the travel trailer tongue and propane tanks, etc. Any ideas for this setup or should we forget it and just either give up boating or give up the overnight camping on the weekends. I know we'd miss doing both like before. Berta I see where Berta <roberta_reel@yahoo.com> contributed: >Has anyone heard of a carrier that could be used in the back of the >pickup with the 8' foot bed? You know, like basically taking the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >necessary so the stern wouldn't interfere with the travel trailer >tongue and propane tanks, etc. I have seen exactly such a rig in a SP in WA .... but I'm quite sure it was custom built and not commercially available. If money is no object you can surely get one built for you, but you might want to think in terms of renting a boat. Most places where you can use a boat wil have someone nearby renting them. Will Sill I post to help rv'ers and to annoy the snot outa idjits, morons and liberal kooks. If you're annoyed, check yer mirror to see why. >I have seen exactly such a rig in a SP in WA .... but I'm quite sure >it was custom built and not commercially available. If money is no >object you can surely get one built for you, but you might want to >think in terms of renting a boat. Most places where you can use a boat >wil have someone nearby renting them. When I lived in MT for a while in 90's this was a very common practice with sportman (boat behind a trailer) ----------------- TheSnoMan.com snipped > Any ideas for this setup or should we forget it and just either give > up boating or give up the overnight camping on the weekends. I know > we'd miss doing both like before. > > Berta You're in luck; <http://www.eideboatloader.com/boatloader.html> Play the video, this is one neat device. Hugh Drag the boat behind the trailer as long as your overall length is right and your camper frame can take it. Replace the thin tube bumper and weld on a strong tube bumper, etc. We do this with a pair of large (3 person) jet skis as do others. > We just sold our motorhome and bought a travel trailer. The problem > we're facing now is how to combine a weekend of camping and boating. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Berta I see where "Kevin" <nunya@somewhere.com> contributed: >Drag the boat behind the trailer as long as your overall length is right and >your camper frame can take it. Replace the thin tube bumper and weld on a >strong tube bumper, etc. We do this with a pair of large (3 person) jet skis >as do others. What you're doing is illegal in most jurisdictions, and IMO very risky in all. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill . > What you're doing is illegal in most jurisdictions, and IMO very risky > in all. > > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Our Internet lawyer speaks out his a.s again. Many, many states allow double towing and even triple towing. Some require a CDL, some don't. Altho I agree that everything has to be setup correctly or it can be dangerous for sure. Hank <~~~licensed for triples >. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Hank <~~~licensed for triples Almost none allow doubles with a travel trailer on the bumper and another on it's bumper. Most require a fifth wheel or goose neck. Your CDL for triples don't mean sh.t to a RVer. None require a CDL to pull a RV.  SignatureFrank Tabor >>. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Your CDL for triples don't mean sh.t to a RVer. None require a CDL to > pull a RV. If it's got air brakes a CDL is necessary. If it's got over 40 pounds of propane a CDL with hazmat endorsement is necessary. Harry Harris SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >>>. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Harry Harris You are lying chicken-sh.t sack of sh.t. A CDL is not required for any RV in any state. And you can't post any proof there is. Go back to sucking the propane man's dick for your mama. SignatureFrank Tabor >>Harry Harris > >You are lying chicken-sh.t sack of sh.t. A CDL is not required for >any RV in any state. And you can't post any proof there is. > >Go back to sucking the propane man's dick for your mama. I would like to know af a state that allows a triple tow. TV-Trailer-Trailer-Trailer?? Double, ok but triple??? > I would like to know af a state that allows a triple tow. > TV-Trailer-Trailer-Trailer?? > > Double, ok but triple??? Altho I am licensed to tow triples, I never have. I am not sure of which states allow it, but there must be since the CDL has a license for them. If I remember correctly, I am pretty sure I saw a few triples out in South Dakota a few years back. I would bet that most of the states that allow triples are western states. Also, I believe that triples and maybe even doubles are limited to the Interstates ( and a shot distance from them) as one poster already stated. But to say it is illegal in most states is false. Hank <~~~too lazy to reseach >> I would like to know af a state that allows a triple tow. >> TV-Trailer-Trailer-Trailer?? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Hank <~~~too lazy to reseach A CDL for triples has nothing to do with what an RV driver can tow. No state allows triple RVs. SignatureFrank Tabor > A CDL for triples has nothing to do with what an RV driver can tow. No > state allows triple RVs. > -- > Frank Tabor Can you post proof? What about doubles? Is there states that allow RV's to tow doubles? Hank <~~~might know the answer >> A CDL for triples has nothing to do with what an RV driver can tow. No >> state allows triple RVs. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Hank <~~~might know the answer Yes, there are states that allow RV doubles. With a fifth wheel or goose neck hitch. A CDL is not needed, because they aren't commercial vehicles. But no state allows triples on a RV. If you want proof, go look for yourself. You won't find any. SignatureFrank Tabor You forget what the "C" in cdl is for. Commercial. If it's privatly owned, no cdl required. A friend of mine is a farmer. Multiple not for hire semi-tractor trailer rigs. Standard Class B license. (kansas). s > If it's got air brakes a CDL is necessary. If it's got over 40 pounds of > propane a CDL with hazmat endorsement is necessary. > > Harry Harris >>>. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > If it's got air brakes a CDL is necessary. If it's got over 40 pounds of > propane a CDL with hazmat endorsement is necessary. If I am not mistaken, would that not be a requirement for most RV's then?? The propane part that is? I see where "Dave Lee" <daveleejd@cox.net> contributed: Some illinformed twit reported: >> If it's got air brakes a CDL is necessary. If it's got over 40 pounds of >> propane a CDL with hazmat endorsement is necessary. DL: >If I am not mistaken, would that not be a requirement for most RV's then?? >The propane part that is? Both claims are wrong. A CDL is a Commercial Driver's License. RV's carrying propane or even those with air brakes do NOT require that the driver carry a CDL . . . unless the rv is in commercial service. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >I see where "Dave Lee" <daveleejd@cox.net> contributed: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Good 'nuff, kind of what I thought. >>>>. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >If I am not mistaken, would that not be a requirement for most RV's then?? >The propane part that is? Harry Harris is a lying, idiot, sub moronic troll. best bet it to filter him. A CDL is only required for a commercial vehicle. SignatureFrank Tabor >What you're doing is illegal in most jurisdictions, and IMO very risky >in all. Perhaps local jurisdictional rules vary once you get off of the Interstate, but Inter-state rules are uniform, and tend to be very tolerant. Met an old guy in Florida one winter a few years back. His entourage consisted of a truck, travel trailer, and trailed 14' aluminum boat. For years, his annual travel routine was: winter in Florida, and summer in Alaska; hauled the boat trailer behind the TT. If there was a problem with this mode of travel, he wasn't aware of it. >>What you're doing is illegal in most jurisdictions, and IMO very risky >>in all. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >summer in Alaska; hauled the boat trailer behind the TT. If there was >a problem with this mode of travel, he wasn't aware of it. Stan, Interstate rules are NOT uniform. Max speed limits vary all over the board as to towing regs. roamer You do know CDL mean California Drivers License. And if you live in CA you do need one to pull a trailer >You do know CDL mean California Drivers License. And if you live in CA >you do need one to pull a trailer No, CDL is the official name of Commercial Drivers License as defined by federal statues. SignatureFrank Tabor I see where Dean <roamer@firstinter.net> contributed: stan.birch@hotmail.com wrote: >>Met an old guy in Florida one winter a few years back. His entourage >>consisted of a truck, travel trailer, and trailed 14' aluminum boat. >>For years, his annual travel routine was: winter in Florida, and >>summer in Alaska; hauled the boat trailer behind the TT. If there was >>a problem with this mode of travel, he wasn't aware of it. Dean: >Stan, Interstate rules are NOT uniform. Max speed limits vary all >over the board as to towing regs. You're correct, of course. Stan knows many things that aren't true. Even the few jurisdictions that allow doubles and triples are very picky about configurations. Not to mention that rv multiples are risky everywhere. Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill >I see where "Kevin" <nunya@somewhere.com> contributed: >>Drag the boat behind the trailer as long as your overall length is right [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill Your opinion is one thing, other's is different! It is LEGAL in many states, look it up! It DOES NOT require a CDL!!! To the other poster, imagine everyone having to get a CDL just because their RV carries 60 lbs. of propane 2 * 30 lbs. tanks!!!. It is safe as long as you are smart about it. Towing a 32' TT w/ a Ford Explorer, is it doable, probably. Is it safe? Uhhh, probably not. Does it happen, yep, we pass 'em all the time 'cause I don't want to be behind them when things go bad really quick!!! One must use the brains you were given for cryin' out loud!!! It's just a suggestion for the OP..... I see where some twit calling itself "Kevin" <nunya@somewhere.com> contributed: >>>Drag the boat behind the trailer as long as your overall length is right >>>and your camper frame can take it. Replace the thin tube bumper and weld on a >>>strong tube bumper, etc. We do this with a pair of large (3 person) jet >>>skis as do others. Will: >> What you're doing is illegal in most jurisdictions, and IMO very risky >> in all. K: >Your opinion is one thing, other's is different! It is LEGAL in many states, >look it up! Name just ONE State where rv doubles are legal when the 1st trailer is a TT. The very few that DO allow doubles specify a fifth wheel. >It DOES NOT require a CDL!!! I've never claimed it did. I claim rv doubles are illegal in most jurisdiction, foolish in general, and often danagerous. You'r entitled to your opinion, but not to your own "facts". Will Sill The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill > Name just ONE State where rv doubles are legal when the 1st trailer is > a TT. The very few that DO allow doubles specify a fifth wheel. > I've never claimed it did. I claim rv doubles are illegal in most > jurisdiction, foolish in general, and often danagerous. You'r > entitled to your opinion, but not to your own "facts". > > Will Sill > The Curmudgeon of Sill Hill ROFLMAO........You must have a lot of time on your hands to research EVERY states laws on towing doubles. What do you interpret "jurisdiction" to mean? You are such a phony wannbe lawyer. Hank <~~~knows bad legal advice when heard |
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