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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / October 2007How come more CG's dont have scheduled acitivities ?
Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, sing a longs, potluck dinners (bring a dish to pass) , board games, hiking thru woods as a group, etc. ??? Im relatively new to RVing (2 years) , so, was there a time when CG's did offer such a thing on a widespread basis ? Do some State Parks offer such a thing ? Thanks. > Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more > activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > did offer such a thing on a widespread basis ? > Do some State Parks offer such a thing ? Your threads with the intention of kicking off a gay relationship are too esoteric. : Why not just post in a gay group? >Your threads with the intention of kicking off a gay relationship are too >esoteric. : Why not just post in a gay group? Hmmm. . . just another American KKK hate-monger; a characteristically annonymous cowardly hate-mongering nazi supremacist seeking a bit a recognition!! >> Your threads with the intention of kicking off a gay relationship >> are too esoteric. : Why not just post in a gay group? > > Hmmm. . . just another American KKK hate-monger; a characteristically > annonymous cowardly hate-mongering nazi supremacist seeking a bit a > recognition!! That's Dimwit to a tee! - Well percieved there! On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 "Dr.H@l0nf1r?$" wrote: Your threads with the intention of kicking off a gay relationship are too esoteric. : Why not just post in a gay group? "Hmmm. . . just another American KKK hate-monger; a characteristically annonymous cowardly hate-mongering nazi supremacist seeking a bit a recognition!! " Sharron :That's Dimwit to a tee! - Well percieved there! REPLY: Sharron....he is talking about YOU, not me ! See above...he is replying to YOUR text . I told you you should have gotton an RV before you came in here . lol. > On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 "Dr.H@l0nf1r?$" wrote: Your threads with the > intention of kicking off a gay relationship are too esoteric. : Why [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > is replying to YOUR text . I told you you should have gotton an RV > before you came in here . lol. Hmm... If that's true then I'm not AmeriKKKan, not male so can't be a KKK member...You obviously don't know Dimwit like I do. You almost got one thing right though; if you'll excuse the inadvertant pun...I do have political views right of centre; but that doesn't mean that I can even tolerate the US Republicans in any way whatsoever. I'm pretty much a lesbian myself; so I have nothing against gays. I have a lot against hypocrites like DILV though; closet gays who preach anti-gay politics knowing full well that they themselves are closet homosexuals. On Oct 9, 1:08 pm, stan.bi...@hotmail.com wrote: > >Your threads with the intention of kicking off a gay relationship are too > >esoteric. : Why not just post in a gay group? > > Hmmm. . . just another American KKK hate-monger; a characteristically > annonymous cowardly hate-mongering nazi supremacist seeking a bit a > recognition!! Damn Dude I never knew that Dave had exposed his true colors in here so well, but you forget his fear of everything he can't understand, the lack of any real education, his "gayness" (Not that there's anything wrong with that) and his entire life of hyprocrisy On Oct 9, 9:46 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more > activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, sing [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks. Why not just come out and ask why campgrounds don't schedule revival meetings where you can expound on your mentally unbalanced religious delusions? Some parks I've stayed at have rangers who give evening talks, but they would not want some a.shole like you questioning their scientific background, why they didn't mention Dog in their presentations, or declaring that the Grand Canyon is really only 6000 years old. 'Why not just come out and ask why campgrounds don't schedule revival meetings' REPLY: Because ive already found a couple of them . lol.... 'Some parks I've stayed at have rangers who give evening talks, but they would not want some nice fella like you questioning their scientific background' REPLY: Id love to attend a Ranger Evening Talk, especially if he followed psuedo-science like : 'Given enough time, matter, and chance...anything can happen ; even personality traits coming from rocks,dirt, and hydrogen gas' . Id pick up a nearby stone and toss it to him and have him ask the stone if it got upset when somebody stepped on it earlier in the day ! On Oct 9, 3:52 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > REPLY:: 'Given enough time, matter, and > chance...anything can happen ; No matter how much time matter and chance, you will never "happen" to get an education > On Oct 9, 3:52 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No matter how much time matter and chance, you will never "happen" to > get an education Maybe given several million years he might eventually develop an intelligence - But he'd probably fossilise long before then. On Oct 9, 6:54 pm, "Dr.H@l0nf1r?$" <sha...@NOSPAM.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > Maybe given several million years he might eventually develop an > intelligence - But he'd probably fossilise long before then. Dimwit's partly fossilized already, his head's as thick as a rock Ken and Sharron , <snip the vitrol> Get an RV , and you wont have time for Internet Stalking. On Oct 10, 5:01 am, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > Ken and Sharron , > > <snip the vitrol> > > Get an RV Why? Sold the van conversion years ago, after some 250K miles in travels. Who really needs a big gas hog of a box to travel unless that's your only home Now have a more versatile go almost anywhere Blazer 4X4 > Ken and Sharron , > > <snip the vitrol> > > Get an RV , and you wont have time for Internet Stalking. I have a different perspective from you. Being a woman and a Pagan I see things in a totally different light. : If I wish to partake of nature's splendor and help her improve upon her majesty I start at home and locally; working outward. I have no need for any ego symbol which causes unnescessary expense and contributes to nature's erosion with pollution and waste. Should I need to have a change of scenary I arrange it through other channels. I have a small base; my home, from which I operate, and other assets used for nescessary business purposes. Please realise the fact that unlikle you I am not a gay *man* and my conceptualisation of life and enjoyment is totally different from any concept you may have. 'If I wish to partake of nature's splendor and help her improve upon her majesty I start at home and locally; working outward. ' REPLY: How do you know that Nature isnt a 'He' ?! Does Nature take your advice to heart and show her appreciation for the tips and suggestions you throw its way ? Does Nature comprehend your thoughts and desired plans ; how does the mind of Nature work as well as its Will ? 'I have no need for any ego symbol which causes unnescessary expense and contributes to nature's erosion with pollution and waste.' REPLY: If you dont like RVing , dont want one , and feel relaxed about condemning the lifestyle...what brings you to this RV NG ? >'I have no need for any ego symbol which causes unnescessary expense and >contributes to nature's erosion with pollution and waste.' > >REPLY: If you dont like RVing , dont want one , and feel relaxed about >condemning the lifestyle...what brings you to this RV NG ? She is here, along with some other idiots, following YOU around. This group has gone way downhill since you arrived. 'She is here, along with some other idiots, following YOU around. This group has gone way downhill since you arrived.' REPLY: So what you are saying is : Its my fault for other peoples actions of dissension ? On Oct 10, 12:08 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > REPLY: If you dont like RVing , dont want one , and feel relaxed about > condemning the lifestyle...what brings you to this RV NG ? AND what has brought you into the many dating, swingers, single, marriage, agnostic and athiest groups you infect on a regular basis. You don't fit in their profile, but that has NEVER stopped you with excuse being: "It's on my Webtv menu so I have the right to post wherever I want to" 'AND what has brought you into the many dating, swingers, single, marriage, agnostic and athiest groups you infect on a regular basis.' REPLY: Dating : Im a divorced person who takes an interest in relationship dynamics and psychology and the discussion of them. Swingers : To let them know there is a better way of doing life than committing adultery and pimping their own spouse , and to offer the lost the way to be found and saved by God which will change their life, now, and forever. Single/Marriage : See Dating. Agnostic/Atheist : To let them know that there is a personal Creator who loves them, has shown himself thru special Creation, the Bible , and Christ... and show why it is deciet to believe literal Pond Scum can change eventually into a 206 bone human being making them nothing more than undignified , worthless, non purposed accidents with no hope, no ultimate fulfillment, and no ultimate reason for being here. So, If you dont like RVing , dont want one , and feel relaxed about condemning the lifestyle...what brings you to this RV NG ? On Oct 10, 7:44 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: <snipped by dumpBS.exe> And you STILL wonder why so many people have killfiled your stupid hypocritical annoying "I'm better than everyone else" bible thumping a.s? >'If I wish to partake of nature's splendor and help her improve upon her >majesty I start at home and locally; working outward. ' [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >REPLY: If you dont like RVing , dont want one , and feel relaxed about >condemning the lifestyle...what brings you to this RV NG ? To whom are you replying? It appears you are talking to yourself. How do you know 'mother nature' isn't a she? 'How do you know 'mother nature' isn't a she?' REPLY: The term, 'Mother Nature' , refers to the Creation that was specifically created by God .. a very real Theistic Creator having personality. Thats where we get our personality traits from since we are made in his image ; 'Mother Nature' (the physical creation)... doesnt have personality , that is...a mind, soul, and spirit ... unless you think rocks, dirt,trees, planets, grass, etc does ; in which case be very very careful next time you cut your lawn !!!!!! >I have a different perspective from you. Being a woman and a Pagan I see >things in a totally different light. : >If I wish to partake of nature's splendor and help her improve upon her >majesty I start at home and locally; working outward. I have no need for any >ego symbol which causes unnescessary expense and contributes to nature's >erosion with pollution and waste. Then why are you posting in an RV group? >Should I need to have a change of scenary >I arrange it through other channels. I have a small base; my home, from >which I operate, and other assets used for nescessary business purposes. >Please realise the fact that unlikle you I am not a gay *man* and my >conceptualisation of life and enjoyment is totally different from any >concept you may have. >> I have a different perspective from you. Being a woman and a Pagan I >> see things in a totally different light. : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> *man* and my conceptualisation of life and enjoyment is totally >> different from any concept you may have. OK Honesty: The reason I'm here is to pursue Dimwit aand alert people to the fallicy of his trolling of fantasy and right-wing Christotaliban religionism. Unfortunately there are gullible people out there somewhere who would be fooled into a false sense of security by his lies and deception. The reason I and others follow him around is because he spent years disrupting and trolling groups that we posted in with his malicious mind-controlling tactics and posts full of lies and offensive accusations and inquisitions of innocent posters in dating, swinger, and alternative religion/belief groups. He drove people out of many groups and offended many unwary people causing much offence and anxiety. He is now reaping the fruits of his behaviour, and those who "inhabit" each group in which he chooses to push his religious trollings are warned of his malice whilst at the same time his alleged logic is constantly revealed for the malevolent pungent pile of rotten horse-manure that it is. - It is simply a mind-control mechanism perpetrated by the religious right-wing that many unsuspecting people are becoming trapped in due to a lack of forethought. It is by ridiculing his teachings and exposing him for the mentally-ill charlatan that he is that we kill two birds with one stone by firstly allowing him his come-uppance, and secondly alerting those who would otherwise be gullible enough to be fooled by this experienced trolling false-religion salesman to the wholesale fallicy of the bag of lies under the guise of light and truth that he perpetrates involuntarily upon the masses. On Oct 10, 1:49 pm, "Dr.H@l0nf1r?$" <sha...@NOSPAM.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > larryr...@home.net wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:31:59 +0100, "Dr.H@l0nf1r?$" [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - Show quoted text - BINGO.....I ignore him until his inane stupidity appears..which is quite often >Why not just come out and ask why campgrounds don't schedule revival >meetings where you can expound on your mentally unbalanced religious [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >background, why they didn't mention Dog in their presentations, or >declaring that the Grand Canyon is really only 6000 years old. Just where did he ask about 'revival' meetings? You are a f.cking a.shole troll. Go spout your transparent hate elsewhere. > Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more > activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, sing [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks. Yes there was. Then along came satellite TV followed by the Internet.  SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life >> Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more >> activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yes there was. Then along came satellite TV followed by the Internet. Exactly right, mam! It's laughable. Obese humanoids driving around the countryside in giant, fuel-guzzling, pollution machines traveling from campground to campground only to plug in upon arrival and then shut themselves up inside their RV's while they watch television, surf the net, eat, burp and fart. They cook and eat, they snack, they drink lots of cold alcoholic beverages. They nap, they watch TV and surf the Internet. They go to the toilet to make room for more snacks and alcoholic beverages. They smoke cigarettes and cigars. Their sink drains clog up with all the fat from the dirty dishes. They get no exercise at all. They hide out and act like troglodytes. You can tell their mindset. Timid, lazy, physically unfit, no sense of adventure, no pride and anti-social because they are ashamed of being fat, unhealthy, atheistic, hedonist slobs. In other words, the same people who seem to be in the majority here. I'm talking about the idiots who brag about how many people are in their kill files. In conclusion, they travel the countryside and see nothing but the inside of their RVs. Just another form of a killfile. A filter that excludes the real world. They'd rather not even try to meet other people or engage in group activities - it might upset their precious routines or make them think of something that makes them uncomfortable. They even fear Dave's Christianity on this group. Why, they'd probably crucify him at the campground for trying to save their souls. The outside world needs to be shut out. Their RV is the womb they miss and need so they crawl inside and stay there. Sad. And for this they claim they need an RV? Pathetic! They should just stay home. Shad O'Shay >>> Im wondering why CG's (especially the larger ones) dont have more >>> activities that promote fellowship , such as : an evening bonfire, sing [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Shad O'Shay Sooo very true!!!!!! DMax 'It's laughable. Obese humanoids driving around the countryside in giant, fuel-guzzling, pollution machines traveling from campground to campground only to plug in upon arrival and then shut themselves up inside their RV's while they watch television, surf the net, eat, burp and fart.' REPLY: I see this as sad Shad ; it should be more of a community experience including hiking, bike riding, jogging, arm wrestling , and running races. 'eat, burp and fart.' REPLY: This can come later, as everyone gathers round the Community fire . 'In conclusion, they travel the countryside and see nothing but the inside of their RVs. Just another form of a killfile. A filter that excludes the real world. They'd rather not even try to meet other people or engage in group activities - it might upset their precious routines or make them think of something that makes them uncomfortable.' REPLY: I shudder to think that this is , in fact, correct. 'They even fear Dave's Christianity on this group. REPLY: Dont know why ; Im just the Messenger in a Country that was founded on The Judeo-Christian ethic . Some folks think im a Religious Nutcase ; heck, I just love The Lord ! > 'It's laughable. Obese humanoids driving around the countryside in > giant, fuel-guzzling, pollution machines traveling from campground to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > REPLY: I see this as sad Shad ; I saw Shad as sad, and I was glad I had. I found it bad that he was sad and Dimwit's mad. Although I'm glad; at least a tad, that Shad, a lad, who's had a life of a kind with an axe to grind and probably wants up Dave's behind, 'Sure he won't mind some bump and grind from the psycho with the biko with a mind that's far behind the times. So Dave is mad and Shad is sad; but Dimwit's glad that Shad's a lad. He'll be even gladder when he's had a lad on a bike who rocks the mike with an ego psyche that David likes. > it should be more of a community > experience including hiking, bike riding, jogging, arm wrestling , and > running races. This is starting to sound like a Village People holiday... > 'eat, burp and fart.' > > REPLY: This can come later, as everyone gathers round the Community fire > . Dimwit's house? > 'In conclusion, they travel the countryside and see nothing but the > inside of their RVs. Just another form of a killfile. A filter that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > 'They even fear Dave's Christianity on this group. FEAR IT! ROFL You must be dense! How can people fear psychotic imagination and iron-age fables? It's honestly extremely laughable in a black kind of way. : If the guy wasn't an utter fuckhead he'd be the best comedian alive! > REPLY: Dont know why ; Im just the Messenger in a Country that was > founded on The Judeo-Christian ethic . Some folks think im a > Religious Nutcase ; heck, I just love The Lord ! There's a word for those who seek solace in fantasy. "Why, they'd probably crucify him at the campground ." Good thinking Shad! so, was there a time when CG's did offer such a thing on a widespread basis ? Do some State Parks offer such a thing ? Thanks.\ "Yes there was. Then along came satellite TV followed by the Internet. SignatureJanet Wilder" REPLY: So, are you saying for the most part, that, RVing has become an experience of isolation whereas before it was more of a community thing ? > so, was there a time when CG's did offer such a thing on a widespread > basis ? Do some State Parks offer such a thing ? > Thanks.\ > > "Yes there was. Then along came satellite TV followed by the Internet. I've only seen kiddie activities in state parks. RV parks, especially the private membership ones, had club houses filled in the evenings with people playing games like Mexican Train dominoes, Pegs and Jokers and various card games. People don't come out as much any more. The only places you will still find evening activities are the private membership parks like Thousand Trails and some of the places that cater to seasonal campers like in Florida, Arizona and Texas or northern places that cater to summer seasonal campers. In other words, you would need to go to a destination campground to find it. The just passing through places don't usually have anything. State and National Parks are, IMHO, places that families with rug rats go for the weekends. They are noisy and crowded and too expensive for me. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life 'The only places you will still find evening activities are the private membership parks like Thousand Trails and some of the places that cater to seasonal campers like in Florida, Arizona and Texas or northern places that cater to summer seasonal campers. In other words, you would need to go to a destination campground to find it. The just passing through places don't usually have anything.' REPLY: Some of the CG's ive been to, had a Sitting Room with fireplace and library which was nice . Back around 1967 when i was a youngster and went camping with my folks, it seemed there were always planned activities going on for the entire family. 'State and National Parks are, IMHO, places that families with rug rats go for the weekends. They are noisy and crowded and too expensive for me.' REPLY: State Parks typically run $8-15 per night from what ive seen : do you like to go cheaper than that ? > REPLY: State Parks typically run $8-15 per night from what ive seen : > do you like to go cheaper than that ? You have to add in the per-diem entrance fee, usually $5 per day. Yes we went cheaper than that. We completely ruled out state parks in 04 when we were traveling in the mid-west. $15-$20 per day with no hookups or electric only plus $5 per day entry fees. We found plenty of private commercial campgrounds for a lot less. We were sightseeing in the area, RVing, not camping. We didn't care about making huge smokey fires at night and blasting our personal choice in music for the irritation of all around us. That's what we found at state parks. All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of sightseeing, make our dinner and relax with TV or a book after a post-dinner walk. We wanted to be able to leave the windows open for some fresh air without clouds of noxious smoke from the campfires coming in to choke us. State parks were not for us. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life 'All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of sightseeing, make our dinner and relax with TV or a book after a post-dinner walk. We wanted to be able to leave the windows open for some fresh air without clouds of noxious smoke from the campfires coming in to choke us. State parks were not for us. SignatureJanet Wilder' REPLY: I can appreciate that agenda . I love to read and be quiet too. What do u think about Army Corp of Engineer Campsites ?? Have you any experience with them ? Pros and Cons ? Thanks. > 'All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of sightseeing, > make our dinner and relax with TV or a book after a post-dinner walk. We > wanted to be able to leave the windows open for some fresh air without > clouds of noxious smoke from the campfires coming in to choke us. State > parks were not for us. REPLY: I can appreciate that agenda . I love to read and be quiet too. What do u think about Army Corp of Engineer Campsites ?? Have you any experience with them ? Pros and Cons ? Thanks. We found many of them to be quite acceptable, but not on weekends. On weekends the locals came to camp with their noise, smoke and booze. JMHO. SignatureJanet Wilder Bad spelling. Bad punctuation Good Friends. Good Life >> 'All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of >> sightseeing, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > JMHO. You and Dave oughta meet in a campground someplace soon. If you're not married and if Dave's not married you might hit it off and end up married to each other. It sounds like you two have a lot in common, at least. A campground wedding would be a kewl group activity, wouldn't it? Shad O'Shay >>> 'All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of >>> sightseeing, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > it? > Shad O'Shay Janet's not a gay man; so Dimwit would soon lose interest like he did with his last wife, and would end up frequenting the men's rooms again.. >>>> 'All we wanted was a place to come home to after a day of >>>> sightseeing, [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > with his last wife, and would end up frequenting the men's rooms > again.. Dave's not gay. He's a Christian and being gay isn't compatible with Christianity. It's a sin. But speaking of men's rooms, check this out: http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/08/village-people-and-sen-craig-a-real-toe-tapper/ It's funny. Shad O'Shay > Dave's not gay. He's a Christian and being gay isn't compatible with > Christianity. It's a sin. Sorry but you wrong Dave has admitted to being a homosexual, which is probably the main reason he gave up sex over 20 years ago. Just ask him. But he doesn't like to discuss his sins, so here's the proof (check the orig post and headers if you think it's a fake) Alt.guns Nov 14, 2006 post #6 in the thread and I quote: 6. Dave in Lake Villa View profile (1 user) More options Nov 14 2006, 4:26 pm Newsgroups: alt.guns From: DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:26:17 -0600 Local: Tues, Nov 14 2006 4:26 pm Subject: Re: Shop Wal*Mart for a Gay America! 'And not JUST a regular run-of-the-mill bigot but a hypocrite bigot! From: DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 22:39:13 -0500 Organization: WebTV Subscriber Matt: 'Dave, you've said you are a Christian. So am I' REPLY: Glad to hear that Matt. So, if you were to die very unexpectedly tonight and stand before God immediatly, how would you answer the question of him asking you :" Matt, why should i let you into Heaven for eternity ?" . Matt: Do you have first-hand experience with alcohol? illegal drugs? prostitutes? homosexuality? or any other things that you consider to be sinful?' REPLY: Yes on most of those, prior to acceptance of making Christ the Lord of my everyday life. <<<Now Dave has already admitted Drug and alcohol abuse, and I believe he already stated somewhere that he never used prostitutes, therefore if he is admitting experience of most of those items, this MUST include homosexuality>>> Randy REPLY: And what if it once did involve homosexuality many years ago when i was a godless heathen Randy ? Then what ? It wouldnt make me a 'hypocritical Bigot' now since i dont do it. >> Dave's not gay. He's a Christian and being gay isn't compatible with >> Christianity. It's a sin. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > he is admitting experience of most of those items, this MUST include > homosexuality>>> Not necessarily, but let's say, hypothetically, he did, at an earlier time, engage in homosexual acts. That doesn't make him a homosexual. He could have just been experimenting. He could have been drunk. He could have been just thinking about it. Your concluding it *MUST* include homosexuality is erroneous. I don't buy it. But, just for the sake of argument let's say you're right that at some time in the past he engaged in homosexual acts. But, since then, he's accepted Jesus Christ into his life and he's asked for and been given forgiveness for his sins and he no longer engages in homosexual acts. In other words, he's repented. He cannot be called a homosexual. Remember, it's God who creates those who have homosexual tendencies. It's God's desire that homosexuals reject those tendencies because He has said they are an abomination and a sin. It's a test. God tests his children in various ways expecting them to pass the test. Failing the tests puts black marks on one's soul. If you truly believe Dave has sometime in the past been a practicing homosexual but has repented of his sins and now rejects homosexuality it can be concluded he's like the Prodigal Son returned from the abyss. He's to be congratulated for chosing the right path. If he never was a practicing homosexual and you are accusing him of being one then you are the one in some trouble with the Lord and your personal salvation may be forfeit. If he was, at some time in the past, a practicing homosexual and only claims he has repented then his salvation may be forfeit. Frankly I don't think Dave is that dumb or hypocritical. He has a good heart. It can be gleaned from his even-handed posts. Would that the posts of his little band of heathen camp followers followed suit. Shad O'Shay >> On Oct 10, 6:04 pm, "Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhi...@steakhouse.org> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Not necessarily, but let's say, hypothetically, he did, at an earlier > time, engage in homosexual acts. That doesn't make him a homosexual. So if I kill someone, by the same reasoning that doesn't make me a murderer than? > He could have just been experimenting. He could have been drunk. So if I kill someone while I'm drunk it's OK? >He > could have been just thinking about it. Known in this country as "Conspiracy to...." >Your concluding it *MUST* > include homosexuality is erroneous. I don't buy it. Quite clearly you seem to think Dimwit is as straight as they come-? Have you ever examined your own sexuality honestly? > But, just for the sake of argument let's say you're right that at some > time in the past he engaged in homosexual acts. But, since then, he's > accepted Jesus Christ into his life and he's asked for and been given > forgiveness for his sins and he no longer engages in homosexual acts. Oh that makes it all OK then; he gets a licence to be a hypocrite if he's " accepted Jesus Christ into his life and he's asked for and been given forgiveness for his sins." I think I'll go out and kill a few people and then say "I'm innocent; I've accepted Jesus Christ into my life and I've asked for and been given forgiveness for my sins" - Everyone will say "Oh that's okay then." - Then I can start preaching a message of condemnation against murderers. > In other words, he's repented. He cannot be called a homosexual. > Remember, it's God who creates those who have homosexual tendencies. > It's God's desire that homosexuals reject those tendencies because He > has said they are an abomination and a sin. STOP! So you reckon your god creates people with gay tendencies so that he can tell them not to be gay-? Either you're headfucked or he's a sadistic bastard! > It's a test. God tests > his children in various ways expecting them to pass the test. Failing > the tests puts black marks on one's soul. What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up! > If you truly believe Dave has sometime in the past been a practicing > homosexual but has repented of his sins and now rejects homosexuality > it can be concluded he's like the Prodigal Son returned from the > abyss. He's to be congratulated for chosing the right path. A leopard never changes its spots. I have auburn hair; I want to be deep blonde naturally. If I reject auburn hair and tell everyone I'm deep blonde, whether I've coloured it or not; the fact remains that I still have auburn hair. Dimwit hasn't "chosen" anything. Dimwit is as gay as my hair is auburn. > If he never was a practicing homosexual and you are accusing him of > being one then you are the one in some trouble with the Lord and your > personal salvation may be forfeit. Unnh-? "f.ck off" is all I can think of to say to that piece of sh.t. > If he was, at some time in the past, a practicing homosexual and only > claims he has repented then his salvation may be forfeit. Frankly I > don't think Dave is that dumb or hypocritical. He has a good heart. It > can be gleaned from his even-handed posts. Look I don't give a flying f.ck about the technicalities of your personal Christian morality/ethics code. : The fact is Dave is gay- end of... SHARRON: 'What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up!' REPLY: Shad, You can easily tell by Sharrons foul mouth and vitrol that she is not worth trying to rationalize with ; Anyone who self proclaims that they are sinless , should give you a strong clue as to the sort of person you are dealing with. Ive stopped replying to her posts for the most part, as she wants to be a Troublemaker , exhibit vitrol, and has a 'get even with you' persona if she doesnt like an opposing view ; she and Ken have been daily web stalking me for some 5 years now , mainly because they feel threatened by The Christian Faith And that is a real shame . If only they could know the love that God has for them . One day they shall. > SHARRON: 'What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up!' > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > And that is a real shame . If only they could know the love that God > has for them . One day they shall. You might be right but there's something about a lost soul that attracts me to her. She sounds intelligent, at least, but just very closed-minded and ignorant because of that closed-mindedness but not dark or evil. Dean, on the other hand, sounds evil. He's a hard case and closer to the devil, IMHO. Is it not our job to try to show such as these the path to salvation. Did we not accept that burden when we accepted Christ? But there does come a time when enough is enough as explained in the Bible: Matthew 7:6 (King James Version) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. But, I think it's left up to the individual the point at which one stops casting pearls. Shad O'Shay >> SHARRON: 'What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up!' >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Shad O'Shay Correction: Change "Dean" to "Ken." I apologize to Dean. 'Is it not our job to try to show such as these the path to salvation. Did we not accept that burden when we accepted Christ? But there does come a time when enough is enough as explained in the Bible: Matthew 7:6 (King James Version) Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. But, I think it's left up to the individual the point at which one stops casting pearls. Shad O'Shay' REPLY: Ive spent many hours discussing Salvation with Ken and Sharron in various NG's ; Im afraid they have hardness of heart and some huge misconceptions including Sharron truly thinking she is without sin. She fails to see just how engrained sin is to every person on earth ; there isnt a day that goes by that we dont sin . As you know, the word 'sin' means the archery term of :" Missing the Mark" . Thats what the word Sin means , literally. We all have missed the mark with God , but, thankfully, God didnt abandon us in this state. He took on a human body so as to identify with humanity, then became mankinds Saviour. It is only THIS bridge , that can link anyone to God . All other religions are based on 'DOING' things to try and reach Gods favor, whereas, HIS way is :'DONE' ...by the sacrifice of his Son. God reaching out to sinful mankind -- the greatest love story ever told. What church do you attend Shad ? When did you get saved from your sins ? For me it was 1986 after many years of abberant living trying to find real happiness and fulfillment. Finally, i discovered that real happiness cant be found in getting drunk , partying, nice vacation, making money, casual sex, et al... the long lasting kind of fulfillment and ultimate purpose comes thru a personal relationship with God on a daily basis thru Christ ; for, that is our ultimate reason for being alive at this time in history on a planet spinning at 1,000 mph . Reams of the same old drivel. You have your beliefs; I have mine. : You have your version; I have the truth. Evidence: You're plagued with guilt and constant negativity, you live, breathe, talk, think, eat, sh.t, and sleep negativity: You're consumed with it. I'm not; I'm simply happy - really happy... and educated. > Reams of the same old drivel. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > consumed with it. I'm not; I'm simply happy - really happy... and > educated. Happy my aching arse! Happy people do not spend so much time spouting profanity like you do, dear. As for your being educated, you write like you are a high school drop out. Allow me to correct your statements above. An "educated person" would have written them this way: "You have your beliefs and I have mine. You have your version while I have the truth. Here's the evidence: 1) you're plagued with guilt and constant negativity, 2) you live, breathe, talk, think, eat, sh.t and sleep negativity, 3) you're consumed by it. I'm not! I'm simply happy - quite happy really. Happy and educated." See, dear, your punctuation needs ever so much work. You toss punctuation marks up into the air, willy-nilly, and let them land wherever. Educated folks do no such thing. Your diction leaves a lot to be desired. For example, one is consumed "by" something else as in "the log was consumed by fire." One is not consumed "with." But, despite your abhorrent English, I still find you attractive and worthy of redemption. There's something about a sassy bitch with auburn hair . . . (note, honey, how an ellipsis has spaces between the dots as well as a space between the ellipsis and the word it follows). I hope this helps. Shad O'Shay >> Reams of the same old drivel. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Happy my aching arse! Have you been round to see Dave again? Happy people do not spend so much time spouting > profanity like you do, dear. Quite obviously this one does. > As for your being educated, you write > like you are a high school drop out. I never wrote that! > Allow me to correct your > statements above. An "educated person" would have written them this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and sleep negativity, 3) you're consumed by it. I'm not! I'm simply > happy - quite happy really. Happy and educated." Such would be written by an unemployed proof-reader. : Yes I said *proof* reader; not Dimwit reading the latest copy of Gay News. > See, dear, your punctuation needs ever so much work. You toss Speak for yourself. > punctuation marks up into the air, willy-nilly, and let them land > wherever. Educated folks do no such thing. Your diction leaves a lot > to be desired. For example, one is consumed "by" something else as in > "the log was consumed by fire." One is not consumed "with." You must be AmeriKKKan. > But, > despite your abhorrent English, AKA non-AmeriKKKan. > I still find you attractive and > worthy of redemption. Why do I always give the fundys a woody? > There's something about a sassy bitch with > auburn hair . . . (note, honey, how an ellipsis has spaces between > the dots as well as a space between the ellipsis and the word it > follows). I hope this helps. Just like your ridiculous belief it's just a forlorn hope; 'more than your english diction which has no hope. wrote: >> Is it not our job to try to show such as these the path to salvation. >> Did we not accept that burden when we accepted Christ? But there does [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > What church do you attend Shad ? I am a proud Southern Baptist. > When did you get saved from your sins? I was baptised a Catholic when I was an infant. That was supposed to save me. But as I got older it didn't seem right to I joined the Baptist church and got it done right about two years ago. I've always believed in Jesus Christ as my savior, though. I've rejected Catholicism because of their irrational thinking that Mother Mary is on par with Jesus when it comes to holiness and power of prayer. > For me it was 1986 after many years of abberant living trying to find > real happiness and fulfillment. Finally, i discovered that real [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > daily basis thru Christ ; for, that is our ultimate reason for being > alive at this time in history on a planet spinning at 1,000 mph . You've got that right. I'm happy you found the way. I wish more people would see their hedonism and self-centeredness and reject it. A simple life being aware of one's limitations and enjoying God's gifts is preferable to anything else and gives the ultimate happiness and contentment. After all this Earth is but a preparation for the hereafter but you know that now for sure. I wish it would sink into the good Dr. and her friends before it's too late. Shad O'Shay 'I was baptised a Catholic when I was an infant. That was supposed to save me. But as I got older it didn't seem right to I joined the Baptist church and got it done right about two years ago. I've always believed in Jesus Christ as my savior, though. I've rejected Catholicism because of their irrational thinking that Mother Mary is on par with Jesus when it comes to holiness and power of prayer.' REPLY: Glad to hear you exited that Religion of Bondage , Shad ; RCism does alot to undermine The Bible and the finished work of Christ on the cross for complete payment of sins . 'I wish more people would see their hedonism and self-centeredness and reject it. A simple life being aware of one's limitations and enjoying God's gifts is preferable to anything else and gives the ultimate happiness and contentment. After all this Earth is but a preparation for the hereafter but you know that now for sure. I wish it would sink into the good Dr. and her friends before it's too late. Shad O'Shay' REPLY: Yes, me too . Trouble is....many people dont think they deserve Hell . ANd some even think they are pretty good ,by comparison to Hitler, Stalin, et al... Then theres a remote few who think they are like Jesus having no sin at all ! That sort of mockery is storing up wrath on their day of judgement. I wish Sharron would stop being self decieved , willingly, due to excessive pride. > 'I was baptised a Catholic when I was an infant. That was supposed to > save me. But as I got older it didn't seem right to I joined the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > RCism does alot to undermine The Bible and the finished work of > Christ on the cross for complete payment of sins . Here we go again... > 'I wish more people would see their hedonism and self-centeredness and > reject it. A simple life being aware of one's limitations and enjoying > God's gifts is preferable to anything else and gives the ultimate > happiness and contentment. I agree fully that it is necessary to acknowledge one's limitations. I also state categorically that it is a malevolent act to oneself to dwell upon those limitations. *YOU* may prefer a "simple" life; being a simple person; but we winners and upcoming somebodies want to *live* rather than simply exist; whether or not we classify what you refer to as "God's gifts" as "nature's bounty", "evolotion's products" or as you do. : Would you believe it is possible to both live life to the full *and* enjoy these too? > After all this Earth is but a preparation > for the hereafter but you know that now for sure. I wish it would > sink into the good Dr. and her friends before it's too late. I once agaain agree that this level of existance is a step of preparation; but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to enjoy it. > REPLY: Yes, me too . Trouble is....many people dont think they > deserve Hell . I think you do; even though it's a figment of your imagination. > ANd some even think they are pretty good ,by > comparison to Hitler, Stalin, et al... Hitler and Stalin were good; at dictating, murder, inhumanity, partial genocide, etc. : In that respect they were better than me, despite the unfavourability of the traits. I'm NOT saying that I'm a better Pagan than Hitler; as Hitler was a Christopagan anyway; but I would say that I am more skilled with the personal development of Paganism than he was. Hitler and Leonard Abbott appear to have meny common viewpoints. > Then theres a remote few who > think they are like Jesus having no sin at all ! You knew Jesus! You must be older than you let on. > That sort of > mockery is storing up wrath on their day of judgement. I'm being judged now; by a pair of halfwits who can't even run their own lives; so whatever right they assume they have to judge me is null and void. >I wish > Sharron would stop being self decieved , willingly, due to excessive > pride. It's called self-image and self-respect; neither of which you posess. Pride is a male thing to do with RVs, gas-guzzling cars, and huge bassy stereos, etc. On Oct 12, 4:17 pm, "Dr.H@l0nf1r£$" <sha...@NOSPAM.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > Pride is a male thing to do with RVs, gas-guzzling cars, and huge bassy > stereos, etc. As is always braggin about how much their male toys cost, which both Dimwit and ShadO'Shithead have done recently >> 'I was baptised a Catholic when I was an infant. That was supposed to >> save me. But as I got older it didn't seem right to I joined the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > you do. : Would you believe it is possible to both live life to the > full *and* enjoy these too? Living life to the full involves living it so as to gain immortality. There is but one way to gain immortality. Immortality is God's gift to his children who try their best to live a godly life as espoused by Jesus Christ. God does not intend this life on Earth to be a drag. God has nothing against people enjoying themselves to the max. But, God teaches that enjoying one's self to the max must be restrained by certain rules. For example, one might enjoy beating up gays but it is clearly wrong to do so. One might enjoy practicing witchcraft but it's clearly wrong to do so. One might enjoy gluttony but it's clearly wrong to do so. One must follow certain Christain dictates in order to enjoy God's grace. God knows what makes humans happy. After all, he is the creator. Trying one's best to learn and abide by God's teachings assures the greatest happiness. God loves us all. God would't teach us to live life in such a way as to make us unhappy. >> After all this Earth is but a preparation >> for the hereafter but you know that now for sure. I wish it would >> sink into the good Dr. and her friends before it's too late. > > I once agaain agree that this level of existance is a step of > preparation; but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to enjoy it. Maximum enjoyment is fine as long as one follows the rules set forth by God and put down in the Bible. As I stated above, maximum enjoyment *follows* living by God's rules. Just like parents can't allow their children to run rampant doing whatever they please even if the children think they are happy doing it (they don't know a better way) but must teach their children the right way to live, so does God have to teach his adult children the correct path to follow. But, of course, the choice to follow his teachings is your own. This choice is a central part of Christianity. You are free to choose witchcraft over Christianity but you will suffer the consequences of your choice. With free will comes responsiblity. Only you can decide if you wish to have eternal life. God will judge us all by our actions here on Earth. I don't know about you but I won't trade eternal life for a few years of indulging myself in witchcraft and other sinful activities here on Earth while I'm a corporeal being. There are way too many approved of Christian ways in which I can enjoy myself to take the chance of tossing aside immortality for a few short years of sinful *fun*. Shad O'Shay >>> 'I was baptised a Catholic when I was an infant. That was supposed >>> to save me. But as I got older it didn't seem right to I joined the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Living life to the full involves living it so as to gain immortality. You've been watching Highlander again. > There is but one way to gain immortality. Behead Muslims? > Immortality is God's gift to > his children who try their best to live a godly life as espoused by > Jesus Christ. And how many immortals who've done this do you know or know of? > God does not intend this life on Earth to be a drag. God > has nothing against people enjoying themselves to the max. But, God > teaches that enjoying one's self to the max must be restrained by > certain rules. It depends which god you're referring to. > For example, one might enjoy beating up gays but it is > clearly wrong to do so. Are you insinuating that I beat up gays!? I don't beat up anyone; and I'm a bisexual/lesbian. I leave beating up gays to Christians who practice "violence for Jesus". : Honestly now; I know a Pagan who was mobbed by a gang of Christians screaming "Devil worshipper!". I know a gay man who was cornered by Christians and ordered to renounce homosexuality and become a Christian "like them". When he refused they put him in hospital. It's homophobic and antisocial. In Dimwit's case there's nothing wrong with him being gay; but when he pretends not to be; lies about it, and condemns it; it becomes rank hypocrisy. > One might enjoy practicing witchcraft but it's > clearly wrong to do so. What on earth are you on about? How is it "clearly wrong" to do so? That's just as logical as me saying "It's'clearly wrong' to call yourself Shad O'Shay. (Besides; I know your brother; a bouncer called Rick O'Shay.) > One might enjoy gluttony but it's clearly > wrong to do so. Eating too much you mean. : FYI there is a psychological condition in which some people "comfort eat". : It's not something they have total control over. It's not good for the metabolism or the figure either. > One must follow certain Christain dictates in order > to enjoy God's grace. IF one is a Christian maybe; so what exactly is the point of telling me this? > God knows what makes humans happy. After all, > he is the creator. Trying one's best to learn and abide by God's > teachings assures the greatest happiness. God loves us all. God > would't teach us to live life in such a way as to make us unhappy. So why does the Christian church make so many people unhappy and why has it inflicted so much suffering upon virtually every sector of society in the past? Why does Dimwit openly practice antisociality and lie in the face of fact while calling himself "Christian"? - It's because the *real* source of evil in the world is the very organisation that pretends to offer "salvation" from evil; the Christian church itself! >>> After all this Earth is but a preparation >>> for the hereafter but you know that now for sure. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Maximum enjoyment is fine as long as one follows the rules set forth > by God and put down in the Bible. The crap in the Bible has very little to do with any god and is simply a socio-political controlling con-trick. > As I stated above, maximum enjoyment > *follows* living by God's rules. Bullcakes. > Just like parents can't allow their > children to run rampant doing whatever they please even if the > children think they are happy doing it (they don't know a better way) > but must teach their children the right way to live, so does God have > to teach his adult children the correct path to follow. Ok it may be the case that some people are so inferior and weak-minded that they are unable to control themselves in any responsible manner, and need some kind of control mechanism in order to restrain their social depravity; but whether or not you believe it, there is a sector of society that is able to demonstrate responsibility and self-control who don't need some artificial controlling medium to act as a suppressant for their wild ways and manic moods. > But, of > course, the choice to follow his teachings is your own. This choice > is a central part of Christianity. Thanks for the warning. > You are free to choose witchcraft > over Christianity but you will suffer the consequences of your > choice. I don't class rationalised autonomy, education, freedom, living enjoyably, and personal self-responsibility, as suffering. : In fact I count it as a blessing. > With free will comes responsiblity. You're learning! > Only you can decide if > you wish to have eternal life. God will judge us all by our actions > here on Earth. If that's what you want to believe then that's your perogative. > I don't know about you but I won't trade eternal life for a few years > of indulging myself in witchcraft and other sinful activities here on > Earth while I'm a corporeal being. But you think Witchcraft is "sinful"; that there's something "wrong" with it. Why do you think that? Because someone told you it was so. - You didn't sit down and work it out for yourself; (If you're capable of doing so (?)) and think to yourself "I don't understand what's going on, why people practice Witchcraft in the first place - What draws people to Witchcraft? -Or what happens in Witchcraft. : I'd like to find out the facts and draw my own concclusions." No you were told by some uneducated halfwitted ignoramus peddling religion that it was "evil"; and without question it sounded OK to you so you believed them and became a bigoted ignoramus yourself; just like Dimwit but with somewhat more intelligence and more education...If it's possible to have any less of an education than Dimwit has that is. > There are way too many approved of > Christian ways in which I can enjoy myself to take the chance of > tossing aside immortality for a few short years of sinful *fun*. Good for you; if they float your boat then go for it. - I'm sorry to find that you're so bigoted and negatively superstitious; but each to their own. On Oct 12, 2:38 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: <snipped by dumpBS.exe> And here's another deluded religious fuckhead <snipped by dumpBS.exe> You're a deluded religious fuckhead and proud of it, so what? On Oct 11, 1:51 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > SHARRON: 'What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up!' > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And that is a real shame . If only they could know the love that God > has for them . One day they shall. Dimwit, If you BOTHEED to read one of Sharron's above posts, she explained in great deal why we NEED to counter your simplistic religious statements, just in case some weak minded individual might fall for your Xtian bullshit >>> On Oct 10, 6:04 pm, "Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhi...@steakhouse.org> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > So if I kill someone, by the same reasoning that doesn't make me a > murderer than? It does not! "Not all who wander are lost." From "The Lord of the Rings" referencing Aragorn. By the same token, not everybody who kills is a murderer. If I accidently killed somebody in an automobile accident it is NOT murder. A soldier who kills an enemy is NOT a murderer. A bank guard who kills a bank robber is NOT a murderer. One is a homosexual as long as one practices homosexuality. When one stops practicing homosexuality one is NO LONGER a homosexual. It's that simple. So, your analogy is flawed as I've pointed out by example. >> He could have just been experimenting. He could have been drunk. > > So if I kill someone while I'm drunk it's OK? Neither is "OK" and neither is a constant state. I can't call you a drunk when you're sober any more than I can call someone else a homosexual when he is having nothing but heterosexual sex and has forsaken homosexuality. That is a trap you closed-minded liberals fall easily into. You call somebody something and you think that defines his entire status in life. You define according to your prejudices. You say somebody is a "child molester." What if the "child molester" suffers a stroke and is paralyzed from the neck downwards? He cannot any longer be a child molester because he's incapable of the act. The closest you can come to the truth is to say he "was" a child molester. >>He >> could have been just thinking about it. > > Known in this country as "Conspiracy to...." You have a wacked out country, then or perhaps you just don't know the definition of conspiracy which in any real country involves sharing your thoughts and plans with at least one other person. >>Your concluding it *MUST* >> include homosexuality is erroneous. I don't buy it. > > Quite clearly you seem to think Dimwit is as straight as they come-? > Have you ever examined your own sexuality honestly? And you clearly seem to think "once a homosexual, always a homosexual." This is fallacious thinking. Using your lack of logical thinking one could just as easily say "Once an atheist, always an atheist." I can give you examples of people who disprove this statement. Even you, still have the capacity to reject heathenism and embrace Christianity. If you should happen to choose the right path then people would say, "There's a Christian." They would not say, "There's an atheist." That's because atheism, like homosexuality, can and should be a temporary abherrant state. >> But, just for the sake of argument let's say you're right that at >> some [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Everyone will say "Oh that's okay then." - Then I can start preaching > a message of condemnation against murderers. Yes, that's the beauty of Christianity. What Jesus did (died on the cross) makes it possible to be forgiven for sins one has committed in the past and even sins one might continue to commit in the future. God and Jesus know people are sinners and can NEVER completely stop sinning. What matters is how hard people try to toe the line and how contrite they are when they stray from the straight and narrow and how sincere they are about the whole process. But, to know the process one must know God's law which is all explained in the Bible. As for hypocrisy, it's not hypocritical to realize when one is a sinner and to be sorry one sinned even if one knows full well one is likely to sin again. Hypocrisy is to be a sinner yourself and call somebody else bad when that person sins. That's what you're doing by the way. You are a self-professed Wicken which is a clearly sinful yet you set yourself up on your high horse and call Dave a homosexual which is also a sin. You are a hypocrite. >> In other words, he's repented. He cannot be called a homosexual. >> Remember, it's God who creates those who have homosexual tendencies. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > can tell them not to be gay-? Either you're headfucked or he's a > sadistic bastard! He's your God, too. And, He created the entire universe and he knows everything down to the count of grains of sand on a beach or hair follicles on your body. He's omnipotent and he's omniscient. He's given people choices between good and evil and people have knowledge of good and evil. The entire world is one big test. So far you've flunked that test but you can still pass if you care to open your eyes and intellect to possibilities other than your heathen beliefs. >> It's a test. God tests >> his children in various ways expecting them to pass the test. Failing >> the tests puts black marks on one's soul. > > What the f.ck is this; Brownies? f.cking hell grow up! Ah, the escape route of the uninformed- the liberal use of profanity. . . >> If you truly believe Dave has sometime in the past been a practicing >> homosexual but has repented of his sins and now rejects homosexuality [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > deep blonde, whether I've coloured it or not; the fact remains that I > still have auburn hair. Saying a leopard never changes his spots is an old saw that is incorrect when applied to real life situation. People change all the time. Your hair might start out brown but it ends up gray towards the end of your life. Your teeth might start out pristine and white but end up full of carries and yellow. One's physical state has little to do with one's mental state which also is in a constant state of flux. Homosexuality is a mental state. The homosexual act is a carnal act allowed by a mind that is off-track. One can take steps to get one's mind on the right track. From what I can see, Dave is on the right track and you are still mired in the bog somewhere out in the boonies. Only your mind can free you. Open your mind to all possibilities. You do yourself a diservice belittling and denying something about which you know so little. > Dimwit hasn't "chosen" anything. Dimwit is as gay as my hair is > auburn. Again you engage in hypocrisy. You accuse Dave of being that which you, yourself are - a sinner yet you deny the concept of sin. I guess that makes you an ignorant hypocrite to boot. >> If he never was a practicing homosexual and you are accusing him of >> being one then you are the one in some trouble with the Lord and your >> personal salvation may be forfeit. > > Unnh-? "f.ck off" is all I can think of to say to that piece of sh.t. Ah, yes! Again with the profanity to evade the issue. Very liberal of you. >> If he was, at some time in the past, a practicing homosexual and only >> claims he has repented then his salvation may be forfeit. Frankly I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > personal Christian morality/ethics code. : The fact is Dave is gay- > end of... You seemed to have convinced yourself but, sadly, you've failed to keep an open mind. Why do you bother attempting to debate an issue when you have no real desire to learn anything? Shad O'Shay One giant heap of sanctimonious holier-than-thou, view-down-the-nose, rot. I'm now going to plonk the snobbish bigoted sanctimonious git. I'm saying no more on the matter as it's just not worth my writing the book of venom that I want to write to the little sh.t. : The foulest insult in the entire universe fails to encapsulate the detestation I feel for both the Sad O'Shithead character and towards the Freak DILV. - Threatened by the Christian faith indeed! ROFL Don't flatter yourself! The Christian faith *is* in itself a threat though, now you came to mention it; it threatens to produce more people like you two! - A bunch of delusional holier-than-thou fuckwitted toffee-nosed asswipes disrupting society with their bullshit teachings. I am almost speechless and almost in hysterics - Also in shock and amazement at how imagining they have gained some special privelige by being antagonistic beligerant fuckwits and joining the dreamer's "Ew look at me; I'm holier than you and I'm going to heaven." club - Wake up dickheads; like f.ck are you going anywhere but the local crematorium and a paupers grave, uneducated and unfulfilled until the day you die. - What a waste of a life for both of these misfits. > I've been beaten to a pulp by Shad O'Shay because he wrote one great, > almost impossible to refute, logical and polite reply to my juvenile [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > humilitiation I feel for having been so soundly refuted by both the > Shadster and the born again, DILV. > Threatened by the Christian faith indeed! ROFL Don't flatter yourself! > The Christian faith *is* in itself a threat though, now you came to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Sincerely, > Sharron Good for you Sharron. Glad to see you're beginning to reconsider continuing to travel a path that guarantees your wasted life, God forsaken friends and very likely eternal damnation. Shad O'Shay Ah forgery and fraud. : this sounds just like a Christian fundy thing; like a step onwards from dishonesty, extortion and tax dodging >> I've been beaten to a pulp by Shad O'Shay Do you beat yourself up regularly Shad? >> because he wrote one great, >> almost impossible to refute, logical and polite reply to my juvenile >> rantings and ravings so I'm not even going to try to debate him >> anymore. I must have missed a post somewhere. : It's probably on the other computer sp I'll check it out sometime. >> I'm not going to ever admit I'm a snobbish bigoted >> sanctimonious git. Probably not; but you're still a snobbish sanctimonious git all the same. >> I'm saying no more on the matter as it's just not >> within my means to attempt to compete with the Shadster's superior >> intellect. I've never seen any example of the "Shadster's superior intellect"; in fact I've seen very little of any of his intellect thusfar. >> I admit it, I'm outclassed, outgunned and outwitted... Don't worry Shad; many people feel that way when trying to get one over me; but honestly it's only because it seriously dents their male ego. There's no big deal involved with it. You'd best just put it behind you and forget it rather than allowing it to fester. I've got nothing to prove as my dominance is totally self-evident. Sometimes you just have to accept second place, and live to try again another day. <snip the forgery> >> Threatened by the Christian faith indeed! ROFL Don't flatter >> yourself! The Christian faith *is* in itself a threat though, now >> you come to mention it; it threatens to save me from my heathen >> beliefs in spite of my best efforts to bad-mouth it. There's nothing much lower than putting words in people's mouths - or forgery and fraud for that matter; but I'm sure the fundy fuckheads can plunge even these depths without much effort. BTW I'm not a Heathen; I'm more into Celtic Paganism than Nordic. >> In order to >> produce more people like you two there must be something wholesome >> and worthwhile about it. It's a relief to know that there won't be any more of you at least. >> You guys are rational and kind while the >> people in my religion are a bunch of delusional, hedonistic, >> fuckwitted, toffee-nosed asswipes disrupting society with our >> bullshit pagan teachings. Is that what you seriously believe? Please state one single instance of anyone Pagan attempting to push their beliefs onto anyone else like the fundys do. >> I am almost speechless and almost in hysterics - Also in shock and >> amazement at how easily they have gained the advantage over me by >> being able to easily counter my every uninformed argument. Perhaps you should study Paganism in depth and see how you could gain great enlightenment from it. >> Makes me >> feel like an antagonistic, beligerant fuckwit. An honest fundy! - Are you sure you're really a non-Pagan? : It's good to see that you're accepting reality at last Shay. >>I'm alarmed because >> the Shadster's good natured put-downs are entirely correct and on >> target though I will continue to try to deny it. Don't worry Dave; you're well practiced at denial. >> I find myself >> strangely attracted >> to his common sense, intelligence and logic, not to mention his >> animal magnetism. Dave you're an incouragible old queen! >> Maybe I need to consider studying Christianity and >> joining the "I'm going to heaven" club. - Makes me want to stand up >> and holler . Well it would certainly make you more true to your claims Dave <snip fundy terrorist campaigning> >> Thank you, Shad, for your patience and your willingness to rescue >> lost sheep like me. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > PP Shad O'Shay Well- What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 'I'm not even going to try to debate him anymore. I'm not going to ever admit I'm a snobbish bigoted sanctimonious git.' REPLY: Sharon, Go ahead and admit it ; humility will be a very good thing for you to experience in light of your sinless nature. Dont hold back...go ahead...and make my day ! :) > 'I'm not even going to try to debate him anymore. I'm not going to > ever admit I'm a snobbish bigoted sanctimonious git.' > > REPLY: Sharon, Go ahead and admit it ; humility will be a very good > thing for you to experience in light of your sinless nature. Dont > hold back...go ahead...and make my day ! :) Har-de-har-de-har. : Unlike you I don't lie for the sake of it. On Oct 12, 2:32 pm, DaveInLakeVi...@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote: > 'I'm not even going to try to debate him anymore. I'm not going to ever > admit I'm a snobbish bigoted sanctimonious git.' > > REPLY: Sharon, Go ahead and admit it ; humility will be a very good > thing for you to experience in light of your sinless nature. Dont hold > back...go ahead...and make my day ! :) Just like you should apoligize for your lies about George Washington, for your discovery of a new branch of nuclear physics where nitrogen fuses into hydrogen, or how Huxley and Darwin were best friends, or those faked aboprtion pictures and all the other loads of complete horse crap reaking with your foul stench, but you're NEVER wrong, are you? On Oct 11, 1:28 pm, "Dr.H@l0nf1r£$" <sha...@NOSPAM.kustomkomputa.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > Shad O'Shay wrote:. > >> On Oct 10, 6:04 pm, "Shad O'Shay" <beverlyhi...@steakhouse.org> > >> wrote: > >>> Dave's not gay. He's a Christian and being gay isn't compatible with > >>> Christianity. It's a sin. > >> Sorry but you wrong > >> Dave has admitted to being a homosexual, which is probably the main > >> reason he gave up sex over 20 years ago. > > Look I don't give a flying f.ck about the technicalities of your personal > Christian morality/ethics code. : The fact is Dave is gay- end of... Maybe Shay should introduce Dimwit to bike riding. They can dress up in matching fancy skin tight Spandex suits, if they make them big enuf for Dimwiot's fat a.s Ya know...Dimwit would, no doubt, enjoy that sensual wedgie feeling his tiny seat would give him 'You and Dave oughta meet in a campground someplace soon. If you're not married and if Dave's not married you might hit it off and end up married to each other. It sounds like you two have a lot in common, at least. A campground wedding would be a kewl group activity, wouldn't it? Shad O'Shay' REPLY: Somehow Shad, I think you are trivializing what marriage is (?) ; its quite a bit more than just 'a kew-wull group activity' at a Campground. I appreciate Ja |
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