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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / October 2007Battery disconnect wiring
I have a used 2001 Fleetwood Prowler 5th wheel with 3 popouts. I have new batteries but they drained while in storage. It is also equiped with a Batt Disconnect switch. I found the disconnect relay and it works but when energized it does not seem to disable anything. It has 2 red number 8 wires on the line side and only one small wire on the load side. I requested and received a trailer wiring diagram from Fleetwood but it is so dim and smeary it is not usable. I am convinced it has been rewired. Can you tell me what all should go through the disconnect relay. Should everything go through including the popout drive motors and the front feet motor or just the circuits in the trailor. I noticed the battery positive terminal has 5 or 6 smaller wires connected to it also. I haven't tried to sort anything out yet until I know for sure how it should be wired. Thanks >I have a used 2001 Fleetwood Prowler 5th wheel with 3 popouts. I have > new batteries but they drained while in storage. How about your propane sniffer and CO detector and/or smoke detectors. Leanne > <azmi...@wbhsi.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Leanne Thanks for your input. The only time I would have the batteries and ckts disconnected would be when it is storage. I store my unit in a storage lot where no one would hear any alarms if they did go off so they wouldn't be of value there anyway. >> <azmi...@wbhsi.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >storage lot where no one would hear any alarms if they did go off so >they wouldn't be of value there anyway. She is telling you that your co/propane detector is what is running your battery down. It is hardwired to the battery and bypasses the disconnect switch. It's always on.  SignatureFrank Tabor azmikew@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts disconnected would be when it is storage. <<<<<<<<<<< So when you stored it, you disconnected the batteries ? Then when you went to pick it up, the batteries were dead ? If so, are you sure the batteries were fully charged when you stored it ? How long was it stored ? How old are the batteries ? If they are 6 years old they may need to be replaced. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <JerryD@anywhere> wrote: > azmi...@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > JerryD(upstateNY) I didn't disconnect the batteries I just turned off the battery disconnect relay. The unit was in storage about 2 months and when I picked it up nothing worked. I checked to batteries and found them to be down to 6 volts. I assume the batteries were charged because we were camping prior to storage and we were plugged into the truck and plugged in during camping. The batteries were newly installed when I bought the unit earlier this year. I removed both batteries and charged each one for about 12 hours after I found them low. What all should be disabled with the battery disable relay is off ? I found that everything in the unit still seems to work (lights, fans, popout motors, -ect) when the battery disconnect relay is turned off. >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <JerryD@anywhere> wrote: >> azmi...@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >that everything in the unit still seems to work (lights, fans, popout >motors, -ect) when the battery disconnect relay is turned off. If you aren't connected to shore power, and the battery disconnect is turned off, nothing should work. Except maybe the CO/Propane detector. If all your lights and stuff still work, then the disconnect is not working. SignatureFrank Tabor > >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <JerryD@anywhere> wrote: > >> azmi...@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I checked the relay it is working but only has one wire ( #8 or 10) on the load side of the relay. I suspect the wiring has been changed. Would the popouts and front feet go through this relay also ? It seems like that would be a pretty heavy current load. If anyone has any more inputs or a headsup that would be helpful I would appreciate your inputs. Thanks for everyones help I guess I will jump into the wiring and try to figure out what was changed. >> >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <JerryD@anywhere> wrote: >> >> azmi...@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >inputs. Thanks for everyones help I guess I will jump into the wiring >and try to figure out what was changed. That isn't a battery disconnect. That relay is probably used to switch the power from the converter to the battery when shore power is removed. You don't have a battery disconnect. SignatureFrank Tabor > >On Oct 14, 1:03 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <JerryD@anywhere> wrote: > >> azmi...@wbhsi.net wrote:The only time I would have the batteries and ckts [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The disconnect relay works, I checked it. It only has one wire (#8 or 10) on the load side of the relay. Someone must have changed the wiring to bypass the relay. Should the pop outs and front feet also go through the relay, seems like it would be a heavy current load. azmikew@wbhsi.net wrote:....Thanks for everyones help I guess I will jump into the wiring and try to figure out what was changed.<<<<<<<< Frank Tabor wrote.........That isn't a battery disconnect. You don't have a battery disconnect.<<<<< Did you read what Frank Tabor wrote ???????? He said you don't have a battery disconnect. In an earlier post you wrote.......I found that everything in the unit still seems to work (lights, fans, popout motors, -ect) when the battery disconnect relay is turned off. The reason everything is still on is because YOU DON"T HAVE A BATTERY DISCONNECT !!!!! What you think is a battery disconnect.........ISN'T !!!! If you "jump into the wiring and try to figure out what was changed", you are going to screw up something and have a mess on your hands. Unhook a battery terminal when you store it and everything will be fine. You are making a huge problem where none exists. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > Unhook a battery terminal when you store it and everything will be > fine. You are making a huge problem where none exists. They make a knife disconnect that goes between the postive battery terminal and the postive battery cable that once installed, is just a matter of opening the blade. Works great for me!! Tom J > > Unhook a battery terminal when you store it and everything will be > > fine. You are making a huge problem where none exists. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tom J Thanks again for all your inputs. I read the Oct 15th postings this morning. The switch on the control panel that controls this relay is titled Battery Disconnect. Maybe this means something other than I thought in this trailer. I will see if I can get an owners manual from Fleetwood and it may tell me it is for a different purpose? I will install a knife switch disconnect for storage as suggested by Tom J. |
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