Religion is Not Evil

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Jonathan King - 23 Oct 2007 18:17 GMT

I am appalled at the intolerance of religion. Christianity teaches morals,
integrity, a sense of community, respect, honor and so on. Religion is the
very fibre of our existence. Religion tolerates atheism much more so than
atheism tolerates religion. Hatred is not a value.

JK

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Dan Listermann - 24 Oct 2007 14:20 GMT

>I am appalled at the intolerance of religion. Christianity teaches morals,
>integrity, a sense of community, respect, honor and so on. Religion is the
>very fibre of our existence. Religion tolerates atheism much more so than
>atheism tolerates religion. Hatred is not a value.

I am sorry to have to disagree with you. Religion in just another form of
superstition and causes a lot of waste. The source of all evil is waste,
therefore religion is evil.

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Dave in Lake Villa - 24 Oct 2007 16:14 GMT

'I am sorry to have to disagree with you. Religion in just another form
of superstition and causes a lot of waste. The source of all evil is
waste, therefore religion is evil.'

REPLY: But this Life was never about Religion ; we are here to have a
real and personal RELATIONSHIP with the Creator who brought the universe
into existence from nothing, then fashioned a place for us to live using
razor edge precision because he knew we would living here, and
ultimately...to live with him forever where he abides. Religion is mans
attempts at getting to the Creator, but, the Christian Faith is his
attempts at getting to us .

Secondly, Re: Christianity teaches morals, integrity, a sense of
community, respect, honor and so on. ; how does your rationale allow
you to look upon these much needed assets for society as being : 'alot
of superstition and a form of waste' ? Why dont you want to support
these virtues ? Do you think moral-relativism leads to social non-
decay or social decay ?

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Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 24 Oct 2007 16:41 GMT

> 'I am sorry to have to disagree with you. Religion in just another
> form of superstition and causes a lot of waste. The source of all
> evil is waste, therefore religion is evil.'
>
> REPLY: But this Life was never about Religion ; we are here to have
> a real and personal RELATIONSHIP with the Creator

A relationship involves two-way communication. : Your god doesn't
communicate with you, although you believe that he does by means of the
Bible. If only you were aware that is just politics and negative iron-age
control freaks communicating with you through inactive media.

Cue word-for-word repetitive programmed stet preaching. :-

who brought the

> universe into existence from nothing, then fashioned a place for us
> to live using razor edge precision because he knew we would living
> here, and ultimately...to live with him forever where he abides.
> Religion is mans attempts at getting to the Creator, but, the
> Christian Faith is his attempts at getting to us .

Your creator made one hell of a mess of that then!

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Dave in Lake Villa - 25 Oct 2007 03:40 GMT

'A relationship involves two-way communication. : Your god doesn't
communicate with you, although you believe that he does by means of the
Bible. '

REPLY: Because our Creator is highly personal making us in his personal
image as well and fashioning an extremely suitable place for us to call
'home'... he is only too pleased to communicate with those who surrender
their lives to his authority and whos hearts desire is to know him more
The Bible is one way in which he communicates in addition to a
Christian being led by The Holy Spirit of God in addition to thru the
Spiritual Gifts of God that each Believer has ; it is available to all
who desire to take SELF from the throne and place God rightfully on it.
God loves it when we turn our affections and worship toward him and we
get blessed with his presence in our lives.

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Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 25 Oct 2007 17:16 GMT

> 'A relationship involves two-way communication. : Your god doesn't
> communicate with you, although you believe that he does by means of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> personal image as well and fashioning an extremely suitable place for
> us to call 'home'...

Yeah yeah yeah...zzz...Get on with it. :-

he is only too pleased to communicate with those

> who surrender their lives to his authority and whos hearts desire is
> to know him more The Bible is one way in which he communicates in
> addition to a Christian being led by The Holy Spirit of God

Dragged around on a leash by demons faking holiness.

> in
> addition to thru the Spiritual Gifts of God that each Believer has ;

Like talking in tongues? We Pagans can do that too - and so can babies. :
Next...

> it is available to all who desire to take SELF from the throne and
> place God rightfully on it.

Deny onesself and submit to the spiritual powers eh? 'Sounds a bit like
transcendental meditation.

God loves it when we turn our affections

> and worship toward him and we get blessed with his presence in our
> lives.

Feelings Dimwit; It makes you feel good so it seems right. Touche'.

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Dan Listermann - 24 Oct 2007 17:53 GMT

> 'I am sorry to have to disagree with you. Religion in just another form
> of superstition and causes a lot of waste. The source of all evil is
> waste, therefore religion is evil.'
>
> REPLY: The usual babbel.

> Secondly, Re: Christianity teaches morals, integrity, a sense of
> community, respect, honor and so on. ; how does your rationale allow
> you to look upon these much needed assets for society as being : 'alot
> of superstition and a form of waste' ?

Communism and Nazism did the same.

> Why dont you want to support these virtues ?

Whatever gives you the impression that I don't support these virtues?
Do you think religion has some sort of monolopy on them?

Do you think moral-relativism leads to social non-

> decay or social decay ?

No, I think that superstition, despite its loud billing, leads to social
decay.

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stan.birch@hotmail.com - 24 Oct 2007 20:12 GMT

>On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 (Dave in Lake Villa) wrote:

>REPLY: But this Life was never about Religion

Although I've read the entire Bible a few times, I have to admit that
I don't know much about it. But do I seem to recall that the Bible
places a lot more importance on religion than your particular
[conflicting?] religion apparently does:

"Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and
to keep himself unspotted from the world."

So . . . you figure that the widows and orphans thing is not what YOUR
religion is all about; but that"

>we are here to have a real and personal RELATIONSHIP with the Creator
>who brought the universe into existence . . . .

Okay . . . You obviously have a different concept of a personal
relationship than anyone else hanging out hereabouts.

1. When I think of a personal relationship, that essentially involves
someone I can see, can talk to, and can hear from.

2. A personal relationship usually involves some sort of sexual
intimacy.

So . . . accepting the fact that you talk to your personal creator; as
a part of this alleged relationship, does he actually talk back to
you?? Or, is talking to this personal one, more like talking to a
stone?? Perhaps you can provide us with examples of verbal exchanges
between you and the Awesome One.

What about the sexual aspect of relationship?

Wherever did you get the did you this idea: "We are here to have a
real and personal RELATIONSHIP with the Creator" ?? Something you read
in the Bible (not)? Or something without substance, promoted by your
brand of religion??

>Religion is mans attempts at getting to the Creator, but, the Christian Faith is his
>attempts at getting to us .

Interesting concept with probable genesis within your particular
religious cult; notwithstanding, that religion has everything to do
with looking after widows and orphans and all of that kind of in
inconvenient stuff. Like . . . with all the money YOUR religion scoops
up from the gullible; how much, or what percentage of those $$$ goes
to the service of pure religion, i.e. widows and orphans?

>Secondly, Re: Christianity teaches morals, integrity, a sense of
>community, respect, honor and so on.

But so far, we remain somewhat unconvinced that even the religious
leaders follow their own teachings.

>Why dont you want to support these virtues ?

Why do your own religious leaders fail to support these virtues??

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