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Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 02 Nov 2007 00:27 GMT
From: "Dave in Lake Villa" <DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Pagans are not too bright. Let's pray for their lost souls.
Date: 01 November 2007 22:58

'That's another problem with Xianity; it's all about the physical;
there's very little or no spiritual aspect whatsoever; which is one
reason why it's so shallow.'

REPLY:  You havent read the Bible carefully at all Sharron ;   in fact
the Bible says not to concentrate so much on the physical but on the
spiritual (eternal things) .  Jesus constantly gave parables to teach
about spiritual importance and he spoke almost exclusively about a
persons Soul and Spirit and extremely little about the physical body.
You do not have a good understanding about true Christianity and only
think you do ;  many of your statements are wrought with misconceptions
which do not reflect what real Christianity is all about.  Your past bad
experiences has tainted your view .

In the light of that do you know what the best thing about my present
situation is? : No more bad experiences.
Dave in Lake Villa - 02 Nov 2007 12:49 GMT
'In the light of that do you know what the best thing about my present
situation is? : No more bad experiences.'

REPLY:  Storing up wrath from the Creator is the worst of all bad
experiences. Dont go thru with it.
Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 02 Nov 2007 15:23 GMT
> 'In the light of that do you know what the best thing about my present
> situation is? : No more bad experiences.'
>
> REPLY:  Storing up wrath from the Creator is the worst of all bad
> experiences. Dont go thru with it.

What would you know about any "Creator" even if it were Yaweh?
Shad O'Shay - 02 Nov 2007 23:56 GMT
> From: "Dave in Lake Villa" <DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net>
> Subject: Re: Pagans are not too bright. Let's pray for their lost souls.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> there's very little or no spiritual aspect whatsoever; which is one
> reason why it's so shallow.'

Exactly wrong. It's more about the spiritual. Christians believe what it
says in the Bible about not laying up treasures on earth but in heaven
because where your treasure is so will be your heart.

Matthew 6:19-21
"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust
destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves
treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves
do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart
will be also."

It seems to me just the opposite of what you claim. Christians understand
life on Earth is just a temporty state of affairs. Whatever happens here is
secondary to whatever happens after life on Earth. While one shouldn't waste
one's life on Earth neither should one spend all his time getting comfy
here. Here on Earth good Christians store treasures in heaven. You seem to
be the one storing treasures here on Earth. Your philosophy seems to be make
yourself as comfy here as possible, worship things your imagination creates
or things the creator created rather than the creator Himself. You're
wasting valuable time and your priorities are askew. It's not too late to
get back on the straight and narrow.

> REPLY:  You havent read the Bible carefully at all Sharron ;   in fact
> the Bible says not to concentrate so much on the physical but on the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> In the light of that do you know what the best thing about my present
> situation is? : No more bad experiences.

Sounds like you've been hurt by some bad experiences and are wounded because
of them. I'm sorry you had to go through them. But, consider this. Most
people experience many bad experiences in this mortal life. It's a test.
It's a learning experience. Have you forgetten what Job went through to test
his faith? We are all Jobs. You have more strength than you might imagine,
girlie. Don't run and hide from your bad experiences. Learn from them. Use
them to defeat them next time around. "That which doesn't kill me makes me
stronger." I don't know who said it but in some ways it's very true. Ask
yourself, is life supposed to be one big marshmallow or is life supposed to
be what it is - a big tough steak. You're equipped to handle either. Why not
rise to the challenge and overcome the worst life has to offer rather than
become a hedonist and wallow in the soft side of life? Ask yourself which
builds character and which makes you fat and lazy?

Shad O'Shay (Shoulda been a philosopher by trade)
Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 03 Nov 2007 01:03 GMT
>> From: "Dave in Lake Villa" <DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pagans are not too bright. Let's pray for their lost
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> one spend all his time getting comfy here. Here on Earth good
> Christians store treasures in heaven.

Is that the excuse the church give for extorting 10%+ of everyone's money?

> You seem to be the one storing
> treasures here on Earth. Your philosophy seems to be make yourself as
> comfy here as possible,

Yes I'm a materialist; I admit that. : My birthchart confirms the fact even.
However I'm a materialist with a spiritual perspective to add to it; so
although I enjoy physical comforts I have a damn good spiritual perspective
to go with it.

> worship things your imagination creates or
> things the creator created rather than the creator Himself.

In your opinion. : You can keep lecturing me from a Christian perspective
until the cows come home; but it won't change the fact that I'm *not* a
Chrisstian; therefore your intended purpose in doing so is rendered null and
void. Would you lecture a coloured person on how to behave as a white
person? - 'Seemingly so.

> You're
> wasting valuable time and your priorities are askew. It's not too
> late to get back on the straight and narrow.

Just give it up will you; you're flogging a dead horse.

>> REPLY:  You havent read the Bible carefully at all Sharron ;   in
>> fact the Bible says not to concentrate so much on the physical but
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Sounds like you've been hurt by some bad experiences and are wounded
> because of them. I'm sorry you had to go through them.

Only the one bad experience; namely Christianity.

> But, consider
> this. Most people experience many bad experiences in this mortal
> life. It's a test.

Then you can stick your test; I'm not a guinea-pig.

> It's a learning experience. Have you forgetten
> what Job went through to test his faith?

You forget yet again; you can preach the Bible at me all day and it won't
make the slightest difference.

> We are all Jobs.

The head of Apple Computers is.; Steve Jobs. - 'Rather unfortunate to be
named after an english turd.

>You have
> more strength than you might imagine, girlie.

I know.

> Don't run and hide from
> your bad experiences. Learn from them. Use them to defeat them next
> time around. "That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger." I don't
> know who said it but in some ways it's very true.

Oh pleeeeaaase! I'm a middle-aged woman FFS; not some uneducated teenage
bimbo.: Cut the patronisation.

> Ask yourself, is
> life supposed to be one big marshmallow or is life supposed to be
> what it is - a big tough steak. You're equipped to handle either. Why
> not rise to the challenge and overcome the worst life has to offer
> rather than become a hedonist and wallow in the soft side of life?
> Ask yourself which builds character and which makes you fat and lazy?
Ditto last comment.

You are so full of yourself I wonder why you haven't vanished up your own
a.shole?

> Shad O'Shay (Shoulda been a philosopher by trade)

Should have been a terminated pregnancy IMO.
Shad O'Shay - 04 Nov 2007 21:28 GMT
> Is that the excuse the church give for extorting 10%+ of everyone's money?

Now, it's extortion? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  Christians are a generous
lot. Christians give out of the goodness of their hearts. Charitable giving
is a central theme in Christianity. As you sow shall you reap. Give and you
shall receive. It's pretty basic and simple stuff.

> Yes I'm a materialist; I admit that. : My birthchart confirms the fact
> even. However I'm a materialist with a spiritual perspective to add to it;
> so although I enjoy physical comforts I have a damn good spiritual
> perspective to go with it.

That's a start. But, if I may suggest something for your benefit it would be
to work to minimize the materialistic side as much as possible while
maximizing the spiritual. It's a step in the right direction at least. Plus,
from the look of the picture on your live space site you could stand to lose
a few pounds of body mass. Good for your health and good for your spiritual
life. Too much materialism often leads to adverse physical consequences.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you're obese but you either have very
large breasts or are a wee bit pudgy.

> In your opinion. : You can keep lecturing me from a Christian perspective
> until the cows come home; but it won't change the fact that I'm *not* a
> Chrisstian; therefore your intended purpose in doing so is rendered null
> and void. Would you lecture a coloured person on how to behave as a white
> person? - 'Seemingly so.

Oh my. I certainly hope you aren't a bigot, too.

> Just give it up will you; you're flogging a dead horse.

You act like a horse's patootie most of the time but I'm sure you're a nice
person deep down inside. Hard as you try to mask your good side with
profanity, wild claims, anti-social rantings, fantasmagorical claims and the
like I can see a bit of light and goodness shining through the tarnished
surface.

>>> You forget yet again; you can preach the Bible at me all day and it
>>> won't
> make the slightest difference.

You don't know that. A seed may lie fallow for many a year then spring forth
with life and beauty in some distant future. Who knows what small seed
planted by DILV and I might blossom forth and help your soul gain entrance
into the Kingdom of Heaven. Besides, Dave and I aren't daunted by a little
adversity. God teaches his children to work to overcome adversity. It builds
character.

> Oh pleeeeaaase! I'm a middle-aged woman FFS; not some uneducated teenage
> bimbo.: Cut the patronisation.

Well, why not try acting your age? If you find yourself being treated like a
wayward teenager perhaps it's engendered by your acting like one?

Shad O'Shay. (Silver medallist today - congratulate me!)
Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 04 Nov 2007 22:49 GMT
>> Is that the excuse the church give for extorting 10%+ of everyone's
>> money?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> shall you reap. Give and you shall receive. It's pretty basic and
> simple stuff.

Oh that's so lovely; heartfelt generosity to a tee. - But remember as you
chain the arranged wife to the sink and present her with a list of
instructions, that charity begins at home. OK that was possibly a bit below
the belt; I don't really think you do that. : She wouldn't dare to not do
what she's told or you might leave her all to her own devices; and having
brainwashed her to believe that she's utterly helpless and useless without
you she wouldn't be able to cope.

Having said that though it is a convenient facade to maintain excellent
extrenal generosity as a cover for the lack of home charity. : On that basis
then, in the light of the fact that Dimwit can't imagine how I manage to
exist without at least one car to double as a brain and a sexual organ as
well as a status symbol to show the world that my religion is bringing me
prosperity, I'm actually making a future projection that I might need one
within the next year or so. Seeing that my business is not performing as
well as I'd have hoped in its first year to date, and also bearing in mind
the fact that the joyous festive season is only around 8 weeks away - which
will entail additional financial outlay; I was wondering if you would care
to make a donation to my welfare by reinforcing my finances somewhat within
the next projected half-year in order to ensure that I have the means to
purchase said transport in the form of an automobile for both business
purposes and otherwise.
I am sure that your stated Christian generosity will extend to me and that,
being a superstar athlete, therefore quite obviously having millions of
dollars to spare, a small donation of the equivalent of the UK price of a
secondhand car with around 10,000 miles on the clock would be no more than a
drop in the ocean to you. I look forward to your offer in this regard,
assured of your freely-giving spirit and your honesty and good faith.

>> Yes I'm a materialist; I admit that. : My birthchart confirms the
>> fact even. However I'm a materialist with a spiritual perspective to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> would be to work to minimize the materialistic side as much as
> possible while maximizing the spiritual.

Surprisingly I would agree to a large extent with you there; but I wouldn't
over-concentrate on spirituality to the detriment of physicality.

> It's a step in the right
> direction at least. Plus, from the look of the picture on your live
> space site you could stand to lose a few pounds of body mass.

How observant! - That's exactly what my consultant physician said only days
before that picture was taken last month.

> Good
> for your health and good for your spiritual life. Too much
> materialism often leads to adverse physical consequences. Don't get
> me wrong. I'm not saying you're obese but you either have very large
> breasts or are a wee bit pudgy.

LOL it's probably a bit of both; but I have to admit it's more the latter;
my breasts aren't particularly oversized; around average for- for me I
suppose.

>> In your opinion. : You can keep lecturing me from a Christian
>> perspective until the cows come home; but it won't change the fact
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Oh my. I certainly hope you aren't a bigot, too.

Your hopes are correct; I'm not - Dimwit takes care of that angle extremely
well as far as Usenet is concerned.

>> Just give it up will you; you're flogging a dead horse.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> fantasmagorical claims and the like I can see a bit of light and
> goodness shining through the tarnished surface.

Aw you're such a flirt. - Go sharpen your chainsaw.

>>>> You forget yet again; you can preach the Bible at me all day and it
>>>> won't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> what small seed planted by DILV and I might blossom forth and help
> your soul gain entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven.

The Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus preached about is already inside all of
us. - We are all a part of Divinity and have a spiritual connection which we
awaken and develop during our lifetimes, even if we don't at first realise
it.. It's a shame that the manuscript of the Gospel of Judas is so badly
damaged making at least half of it illegible or missing. : There are so many
sacred keys contained in it; including the main key to unlock the Kingdom
within oneself.

> Besides, Dave and
> I aren't daunted by a little adversity. God teaches his children to
> work to overcome adversity. It builds character.

This is the god Yaweh/Jehovah I take it? - Som of the Elohim who helped
develop earth into a habitable planet...- 'Long story...

>> Oh pleeeeaaase! I'm a middle-aged woman FFS; not some uneducated
>> teenage bimbo.: Cut the patronisation.
>
> Well, why not try acting your age? If you find yourself being treated
> like a wayward teenager perhaps it's engendered by your acting like
> one?
This is Usenet; not the American Cultral Society.

> Shad O'Shay. (Silver medallist today - congratulate me!)

If that's true then congratulations! Make it a gold tomorrow.
Shad O'Shay - 05 Nov 2007 22:59 GMT
> Oh that's so lovely; heartfelt generosity to a tee. - But remember as you
> chain the arranged wife to the sink and present her with a list of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> having brainwashed her to believe that she's utterly helpless and useless
> without you she wouldn't be able to cope.

Actually, considering how often I'm away from home she does an outstanding
job on her own. I'm proud of her. She's a good woman. Very pretty too, and
slim and sexy and full of energy and best of all she's blonde. I love
blondes. They're the most womanly of women. I think Eve was a blonde.

> Having said that though it is a convenient facade to maintain excellent
> extrenal generosity as a cover for the lack of home charity. : On that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> order to ensure that I have the means to purchase said transport in the
> form of an automobile for both business purposes and otherwise.

I'll pray that your business starts making more money so you can afford a
new car. I'm sure DILV will pray for you, too. God will provide.

> I am sure that your stated Christian generosity will extend to me and
> that, being a superstar athlete, therefore quite obviously having millions
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> regard, assured of your freely-giving spirit and your honesty and good
> faith.

I'll happily give you some expensive advice. If you desire a luxury item it
can hardly be called charity. Greed is more the term. I believe if you look
up the definition of charity you will find it has something to do with the
poor and needy. You can do without a car. Take the tube. Or better yet take
a bicycle. Do your body and soul good to get more exercise.

>>> Yes I'm a materialist; I admit that. : My birthchart confirms the
>>> fact even. However I'm a materialist with a spiritual perspective to
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> my breasts aren't particularly oversized; around average for- for me I
> suppose.

Post a link to a more revealing photo so I can decide for myself . . .

>> Oh my. I certainly hope you aren't a bigot, too.
>
> Your hopes are correct; I'm not - Dimwit takes care of that angle
> extremely well as far as Usenet is concerned.

You and Dave are inseparable it seems; he's always in your thoughts.
Remember when you were a little girl how when you thought you hated a boy it
was actually because you liked him but wouldn't admit it to yourself?

>>> Just give it up will you; you're flogging a dead horse.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Aw you're such a flirt. - Go sharpen your chainsaw.

You like chainsaws because you sure keep mentioning them. Too much devil
worship maybe?

>>>>> You forget yet again; you can preach the Bible at me all day and it
>>>>> won't
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> so many sacred keys contained in it; including the main key to unlock the
> Kingdom within oneself.

Oh, puleeeeese!  You aren't one of those nuts who thinks the Bible has
hidden codes written into it are you? That's nut case stuff.

> If that's true then congratulations! Make it a gold tomorrow.

Yes, mam! And, thanks.

Shad O'Shay
Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 06 Nov 2007 00:20 GMT
>> Oh that's so lovely; heartfelt generosity to a tee. - But remember
>> as you chain the arranged wife to the sink and present her with a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> she's blonde. I love blondes. They're the most womanly of women. I
> think Eve was a blonde.

Just as she didn't come from Essex too; otherwise your perception of
humanity leaves one totally f.cked human race from the outset.

>> Having said that though it is a convenient facade to maintain
>> excellent extrenal generosity as a cover for the lack of home
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> afford a new car. I'm sure DILV will pray for you, too. God will
> provide.

That's something slightly better than nothing I suppose; I'll be grateful
for small mercies.

>> I am sure that your stated Christian generosity will extend to me and
>> that, being a superstar athlete, therefore quite obviously having
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Take the tube. Or better yet take a bicycle. Do your body and soul
> good to get more exercise.

I have problems with both suggestions. : To take the tube I'd have to go to
London first - which isn't nearby. I have problems with a bicycle due to a
problem with my legs; therefore neither is an option.

>>>> Yes I'm a materialist; I admit that. : My birthchart confirms the
>>>> fact even. However I'm a materialist with a spiritual perspective
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Post a link to a more revealing photo so I can decide for myself . . .

I don't hav a tit-flash pic on the net.

>>> Oh my. I certainly hope you aren't a bigot, too.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> boy it was actually because you liked him but wouldn't admit it to
> yourself?

I'm a big girl now.

>>>> Just give it up will you; you're flogging a dead horse.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> You like chainsaws because you sure keep mentioning them. Too much
> devil worship maybe?

I neither practice devil-worship, as the devil is a Christian figure rather
than Pagan who I don't believe in, and the chainsaw was the instrument of
choice for your auto-anal probe/butt plug. Perhaps you'd prefer a
hedge-trimmer instead?

>>>>>> You forget yet again; you can preach the Bible at me all day and
>>>>>> it won't
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Oh, puleeeeese!  You aren't one of those nuts who thinks the Bible has
> hidden codes written into it are you? That's nut case stuff.

In your opinion. The Bible did have a lot more to it before the 4th Century
Pope decered that most of it was not for general consumption and should be
"lost".

>> If that's true then congratulations! Make it a gold tomorrow.
>
> Yes, mam! And, thanks.
>
:)
Zyp - 05 Nov 2007 20:24 GMT
>> Is that the excuse the church give for extorting 10%+ of everyone's
>> money?
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> one?
> Shad O'Shay. (Silver medallist today - congratulate me!)

Christians are selfish.  What they want is for them [themselves] to get to
heaven and at any cost.  Even if it means you have to give while on earth.
If the Christian was so "giving" they would give themselves to save you.
But no, they want you to give so they can save themselves.

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Shad O'Shay - 05 Nov 2007 23:01 GMT
> Christians are selfish.  What they want is for them [themselves] to get to
> heaven and at any cost.  Even if it means you have to give while on earth.
> If the Christian was so "giving" they would give themselves to save you.
> But no, they want you to give so they can save themselves.

You sound even dumber than Ken.

God bless you!

Shad O'Shay
Zyp - 05 Nov 2007 20:22 GMT
>> From: "Dave in Lake Villa" <DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net>
>> Subject: Re: Pagans are not too bright. Let's pray for their lost
[quoted text clipped - 55 lines]
> Ask yourself which builds character and which makes you fat and lazy?
> Shad O'Shay (Shoulda been a philosopher by trade)

Is that why all the church(s) have an "offering" plate and want you to
*contribute* money$?

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Shad O'Shay - 05 Nov 2007 23:05 GMT
> Is that why all the church(s) have an "offering" plate and want you to
> *contribute* money$?

I can't recall where it is in the Bible right off hand but it says in there
that if you feel pressured into giving then don't. As a Christian one gives
freely because he desires to give not because he feels compelled to. "As you
give, shall you receive." In other words if you give begrudgingly then
you'll be on the receiving end the same way. Get it?

Shad O'Shay
Dr.H@l0nf1r£$ - 06 Nov 2007 00:24 GMT
>> Is that why all the church(s) have an "offering" plate and want you
>> to *contribute* money$?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> way. Get it?
> Shad O'Shay

There's a lot in that. I  must say that IMO this is one of the rare cases
where the Bible has got it right.

(I don't think the Bible is *all* balderdash; just mostly perhaps.)
 
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