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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / November 2007

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GPS Chips Can Now Be Built In To Almost Anything

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jennyjenny - 16 Nov 2007 10:46 GMT
GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
track your child's location...
http://articlesupdates.googlepages.com/gps_chips_can_now_be_built_in_to_almost_
Eregon - 16 Nov 2007 15:51 GMT
> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
> track your child's location...
> http://articlesupdates.googlepages.com/gps_chips_can_now_be_built_in_to
> _almost_

That was the primary reason for the Feds' big push to force Digital Cell
Phone service: the digital phones report their locations and make it easier
for the Feds to locate the phone.

For at least 2 years, a parent has been able to subscribe to a service that
enables them to tell where their kids' phones are.

Most cell phone companies offer this.
Mickey - 16 Nov 2007 17:45 GMT
>> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
>> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
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>
> Most cell phone companies offer this.

But are cell phones actually using GPS, i.e. Sat, or are they using
triangulation from several cell towers?

Couple days ago on another forum a person that works in the 911 industry
mentioned triangulation in locating phones.

Mickey
Eregon - 17 Nov 2007 05:35 GMT
>>> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be
>>> built into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and
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>
> Mickey

That's the way that they locate analog phones and some early digitals.

Check the cell service providers and you'll find several models that
provide a full GPS map package. <G>
RVer Don - 17 Nov 2007 06:09 GMT
> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
> track your child's location...
> http://articlesupdates.googlepages.com/gps_chips_can_now_be_built_in_to_almost_

A home builder was losing a lot of appliances to theft in our area.  He
placed GPS devices in the appliances stored on site and they now have five
people in custody for stealing these appliances.

Don in Tracy, Calif.
Dean - 17 Nov 2007 20:01 GMT
>> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
>> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
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>
>Don in Tracy, Calif.

Interesting.  As far as I know, GPS units suitable for tracking must
be able to transmit a radio signal to a satellite or other receiver.
The normal GPS unit from Garmin or Magellin cannot do so.  And those
that can cost lotsa $$$$!

Dean
Frank Tabor - 17 Nov 2007 22:12 GMT
>>> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
>>> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
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>
>Dean

Tractor trailers, shipping boxes and the like have been using units
like this for years.  It's also what LoJack and OnStar use.  The unit
is a GPS receiver that sends it position either through cell phone or
like on the tractor trailers may even use satellite technology to
report it's position.

Start losing 10 or 15K bucks in appliances and the cost factor goes
way down on a GPS tracking unit.
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Frank Tabor - 17 Nov 2007 22:30 GMT
>>>> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
>>>> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
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>Start losing 10 or 15K bucks in appliances and the cost factor goes
>way down on a GPS tracking unit.

Also, when I was driving TT in 1999, Qualcomm was using truck tracking
and 2 way communications via satellite.  Their system was a couple of
years old then.  They also had units installed in the trailers to keep
track of them separately from the truck.  The systems cost about 3k
per vehicle then.  And that included 2 way messaging.  

I'm sure that the costs have come way down on these units now.
Especially since the built in cell phone technology has come a long
way.
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RVer Don - 18 Nov 2007 05:19 GMT
>>A home builder was losing a lot of appliances to theft in our area.  He
>>placed GPS devices in the appliances stored on site and they now have five
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Dean

Could be Dean, I don't know but they were able to track these appliances
down and arrest five people responsible for these thefts.  From what I
understand these thefts had been going on for some time so it was probably
worth whatever the cost to recover these items and prevent further losses.

Don in Tracy, Calif.
Dean - 18 Nov 2007 16:55 GMT
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>Could be Dean, I don't know but they were able to track these appliances
>down and arrest five people responsible for these thefts.  From what I
>understand these thefts had been going on for some time so it was probably
>worth whatever the cost to recover these items and prevent further losses.
>
>Don in Tracy, Calif.

Oh, I am not saying it can't be done and I suspect they are using a
similar system to truckers positioning.  I just don't want people
thinking you can go out and get a handheld Garmin and it will allow
people to track you.  That is the argument I had with Mike Gallagher.
He grudgingly admitted I was right.

dean
NotMe - 19 Nov 2007 05:40 GMT
| >> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
| >> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
| >> track your child's location...

http://articlesupdates.googlepages.com/gps_chips_can_now_be_built_in_to_almost_

| >A home builder was losing a lot of appliances to theft in our area.  He
| >placed GPS devices in the appliances stored on site and they now have five
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
| The normal GPS unit from Garmin or Magellin cannot do so.  And those
| that can cost lotsa $$$$!

Not really the LowJack system uses GPS connected to a low power beacon that
can be picked up and located by simple RDF (radio direction finder)
technology that was used in WWII.  Some of the tracking devices can read the
GPS location transmitted with the RDF beacon

In the mid '70s someone modified a downed aircraft locator beacon to track
equipment thefts from the I10 long bridge between Baton Rouge and Lafayette
LA.
Matt Colie - 19 Nov 2007 15:39 GMT
Sorry Guys,
But, when I did have anything to do with Lojack, all it really had was a
thing best described as a pager transponder.  It had no capability to
know and transmit its location.  All it actually did was listen for its
number to be called then respond by sending out a radio pulse that
contains its identifier.  Its up to the LEO with Lojack provided RDF
units to find our where he is..(thas why every community has at least
one car with four little antennas (antennea?) on top.
Matt Colie

> | >> GPS Chips have become so small and lightweight that they can be built
> | >> into almost anything. For example, they can help safely and easily
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> equipment thefts from the I10 long bridge between Baton Rouge and Lafayette
> LA.
 
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