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Bill - 09 Dec 2007 14:36 GMT
Does one carry a sewer hose or do the campgrounds provide one for
dumping?

Bill
miles - 09 Dec 2007 14:36 GMT
> Does one carry a sewer hose or do the campgrounds provide one for
> dumping?

You need your own along with the required fittings on each end.
Jim Redelfs - 09 Dec 2007 15:42 GMT
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<6d8af9fb-6ca1-471f-833d-3dac71301bde@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,

> Does one carry a sewer hose or do the campgrounds provide one for
> dumping?

Bring your own.

My "stinky slinky" (sewer hose) is stored in the rear bumper of my travel
trailer.  I have two, 10-ft hoses that can be coupled as needed.  One end has
the appropriate bayonet fitting to attach to the holding tank outlet on the
camper while the other end has a 90-degree elbow fitting that is inserted into
the dump station inlet or campsite sewer hookup.
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2000 Skamper Ultra 249 TT
2002 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD
Vortec 8100 - Allison 1000

Andy Asberry - 09 Dec 2007 23:16 GMT
>In article
><6d8af9fb-6ca1-471f-833d-3dac71301bde@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
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>camper while the other end has a 90-degree elbow fitting that is inserted into
>the dump station inlet or campsite sewer hookup.

Jim, I just noticed your sig. Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
piston slap like some of the 6000? Mileage?
Jim Redelfs - 09 Dec 2007 23:26 GMT
> Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
> piston slap like some of the 6000?

No.

> Mileage?

65,300, bought new in late October, 2001.  It's been a great pickup and I love
the Allison 5-speed even more than the stump-pulling big block.

I went into this fully aware of the DISMAL mileage I would get and I haven't
been "disappointed".  I get ~10 MPG solo sub/urban driving and ~8.3 MPG towing
probably 5,500-lbs travel trailer at 65 MPH.

I am still glad I didn't spend the (2001) $4500 for the diesel as this thing
is still my daily driver and it's only 3.6 miles to work, one way.
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Ron Recer - 10 Dec 2007 13:11 GMT
>> Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>> piston slap like some of the 6000?
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> thing
> is still my daily driver and it's only 3.6 miles to work, one way.

Jim, you would have more than paid for the $4500 cost of the diesel after
65,000 miles with fuel savings.  I am on my second Duramax ('01 and now an
'06) and get 16-17 mpg in solo urban driving, 18-20 mpg highway and ~9 mpg
towing 35' 5er.  Both are crew cab duallies and the '06 is a 4x4.

Ron
now in balmy south TX instead of icey OK
Hugh - 10 Dec 2007 21:23 GMT
>>>Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>>>piston slap like some of the 6000?
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> Ron
> now in balmy south TX instead of icey OK

Not to quibble Ron but...I'm getting 15 to 17 mpg solo suburban, 18 to
20 mpg highway and 9.2 mpg towing a 30' travel trailer <vvbg>.
Hugh
Ron Recer - 11 Dec 2007 12:04 GMT
>>>>Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>>>>piston slap like some of the 6000?
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> mpg highway and 9.2 mpg towing a 30' travel trailer <vvbg>.
> Hugh

Jim said he was getting considerably less and in the range of others I have
talked to that had the 8.1.  Your situation would indicate that you may be
better off with the gasoline engine.  My Duramax mileage is on the low end
since I have a crew cab dually.

Ron
Hugh - 11 Dec 2007 15:56 GMT
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> Jim said he was getting considerably less and in the range of others I have
> talked to that had the 8.1.  Your situation would indicate that you may be
> better off with the gasoline engine.  My Duramax mileage is on the low end
> since I have a crew cab dually.
>
> Ron

I should also say mine is a 5.7L Hemi in a Ram 1500 pickup. I would
still love to have a new Ram Cummins <bg>.
Hugh
Kevin - 11 Dec 2007 00:05 GMT
Jim,

Either you are not familiar with what is meant by "piston slap" or you
simply own a VERY RARE specimen!!! I haven't seen/heard a 2001-2003 6.0 or
8.1 that doesn't exhibit such noise! My '02 8.1L sounds like a diesel on
these cold December mornings. Two others in the family do the exact same
thing, one being an '02 and another an '03. These engines range from 53K
miles to about 150K miles. No mechanical issues, just annoying to listen to!
My '02 6.0 did it as well before I dumped it for a long box w/ crew cab, and
that was with only 15K miles on it. You're right on the mileage!  :-)  Not
to mention the mileage advantage of the diesel has basically been wiped out
lately due to the higher cost of diesel over 87 octane gas.

Kevin

>> Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>> piston slap like some of the 6000?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> thing
> is still my daily driver and it's only 3.6 miles to work, one way.
Jim Redelfs - 11 Dec 2007 05:16 GMT
> Either you are not familiar with what is meant by "piston slap" or you
> simply own a VERY RARE specimen!

It is possible that I am ignorant of what is "piston slap".  Please remind me.

When I start the cold engine, I hear noisy lifters until the oil pressure
rises, which is usually 15-20 seconds.  Beyond that, the thing is as "quiet"
as have been all the Chevys I've driven in 54 years.
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S. Barker - 11 Dec 2007 16:43 GMT
What you are hearing is piston slap.  not lifters.  And it's probably last
more like 5 minutes or so until it warms up.  It'll get worse.  I'm not
saying it's bad, because it's not, but it's there and it will get worse.
Mine sounds a bit like a diesel for about 3 minutes.

s

>> Either you are not familiar with what is meant by "piston slap" or you
>> simply own a VERY RARE specimen!
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> "quiet"
> as have been all the Chevys I've driven in 54 years.
Kevin - 12 Dec 2007 22:42 GMT
Jim,

Yep, it's not lifters you are hearing. That's the beautiful sound of short
pistons with slop in them clanging around! Depending on the weight of oil
you run, they will quiet down quicker as they warm and expand. Mine "quiets"
down after a few minutes, but you can always hear the slapping. Pop your
hood once and listen, you'll hear the music. My '02 8.1L is at 53K miles.
Runs solid, gas mileage sucks at between 7.5 and 11.8 MPG depending on what
I'm doing with it, but then again I didn't buy it thinking I was going to
get the Tree Hugger of the Year award!   8-)

Kevin

>> Either you are not familiar with what is meant by "piston slap" or you
>> simply own a VERY RARE specimen!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> "quiet"
> as have been all the Chevys I've driven in 54 years.
Andy Asberry - 13 Dec 2007 03:15 GMT
>Jim,
>
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>
>Kevin

And it's got short pistons because of low deck height,i.e. long
stroke/short rods.
S. Barker - 13 Dec 2007 04:58 GMT
it ACTUALLY has nothing to do with the length of the skirt.  It has to do
with the fact that they quit select fitting the pistons.

s

>>Jim,
>>
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> And it's got short pistons because of low deck height,i.e. long
> stroke/short rods.
Andy Asberry - 11 Dec 2007 01:33 GMT
>> Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>> piston slap like some of the 6000?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>I am still glad I didn't spend the (2001) $4500 for the diesel as this thing
>is still my daily driver and it's only 3.6 miles to work, one way.

Ouch! That dashes my thoughts of trying to find a later model big
block. I've had three 7.3 PS service trucks, big regrets. I'm not a
fan of diesels. Though Duramaxes are getting good reviews, diesel at a
$0.65 premium to RUL here today discourages that option.

I've driven nothing but 7.4 (454) C20/2500HD since '78. Put 787,000 on
a '83 service truck that grossed over 8000 its whole life.

My current ride just turned 100,000. a '99 GMC 2500HD, 7.4, 4sp AOD,
4.10 gears. I've kept record of every drop that has gone in it.
Average 14.7. By the way, this is the next to last 454 made.

A recent 3300 mile trip. About 1500 miles empty averaged 15.8 at 65/70
mph. Return with a 3000# TT and 650# in the bed averaged 12.4 at 65.
11.2 was the worst fill-up on a 127 mile detour through the West
Virginia hills. It took 6 hours. Tanker of cyanide overturned on the
Interstate.

Best mileage was obtained with my right foot not the cruise. Better to
maintain constant throttle and let the speed vary a little up and down
hills.

Maybe I'll go out and give her a washing and some new shocks.
Ron Recer - 11 Dec 2007 12:08 GMT
>>> Tell me about your 8100. Does it have
>>> piston slap like some of the 6000?
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> fan of diesels. Though Duramaxes are getting good reviews, diesel at a
> $0.65 premium to RUL here today discourages that option.

You more than make up the difference in price when you get 60% to 100% more
miles per gallon! <g>

Ron

> I've driven nothing but 7.4 (454) C20/2500HD since '78. Put 787,000 on
> a '83 service truck that grossed over 8000 its whole life.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Maybe I'll go out and give her a washing and some new shocks.
S. Barker - 11 Dec 2007 16:44 GMT
BUT, the problem is, that's not the case.

s

.

> You more than make up the difference in price when you get 60% to 100%
> more miles per gallon! <g>
>
> Ron
Kevin - 12 Dec 2007 22:36 GMT
AND that it now takes a lot longer to recover that cost due to the diesel
fuel premium cost!!!

> BUT, the problem is, that's not the case.
>
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>>
>> Ron
 
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