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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / January 2008Frozen dump valve.
Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and when I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks were fine. Tonight it is going to get down into maybe single digits. I poured four gallons of windshield fluid into the tank to try to keep it from going solid. The active ingredient is wood alcohol. If I ruin my seals, that is cheap compared to a cracked tank. What are the odds? > Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and when > I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks were fine. > Tonight it is going to get down into maybe single digits. I poured four > gallons of windshield fluid into the tank to try to keep it from going > solid. The active ingredient is wood alcohol. If I ruin my seals, that is > cheap compared to a cracked tank. What are the odds? The odds are probably pretty good that you won't have trouble with the tank or the valve. An incandescent trouble light, not fluorescent, in by the valve will keep things from getting too cold in the waste piping. You probably won't get the antifreeze into the waste piping because it is already full of stuff and cannot circulate. I don't think the tank will freeze with that stuff in it. It might get slushy, but not freeze solid and hard enough to break the polyethylene. Frozen pipes can break or leak and they can be a problem because of the necessary cleanup. BTDT. John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee >> Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and >> when I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and hard enough to break the polyethylene. Frozen pipes can break or leak > and they can be a problem because of the necessary cleanup. BTDT. It was still liquid when I put the windshield fluid in. Driving surely mixed it well. I used a heat gun to get the valve a bit loosened and liquid came out then however yesterday morning the surface, at least, was solid. I am hoping that the alcohol will form pockets that let the ice move as it froze and prevent problems. I have seen this while making "eisbier," beer whose alcohol is concentrated by freezing. In any case, I should know where I stand Saturday when they say it will warm here. >>> Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and >>> when I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > "eisbier," beer whose alcohol is concentrated by freezing. In any case, I > should know where I stand Saturday when they say it will warm here. You can drop a fish tank bubbler line down the toilet to keep things from freezing. It might be tricky to get it into the discharge chute. The bubbles will also mix things up. You might try looking at a horse water tank heater. There is probably some configuration that you could slip down into the tank. A water bed heating pad may work, just press it up against the tank with styrofoam sheets for good contact and added insulation. Lastly, you could put lots of boiling water in the tank and dump it. >>>> Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and >>>> when I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > the tank with styrofoam sheets for good contact and added insulation. > Lastly, you could put lots of boiling water in the tank and dump it. The horse is gone from the barn, it is frozen. The tank heating system was supposed to prevent this problem and it did for the two gray tanks. I am thinking that the black water tank's heater may not be working or it just got too cold and /or the 3" valve is just more vulnerable to freezing. In hindsight I could have put a heat tape around the valve and maybe wrapped it with a towel to thaw it. Hopefully the ice will have been flexable enough to not crack anything because of the windshield fluid's alcohol. I need to check that the heater works and maybe add another to the valve. We, well at least me - the wife, not so much, enjoy winter camping a lot. Well it is in the upper twenties now and the drain valve can be cracked open enough to allow a little liquid to dribble out. There is no dripping from the tank itself, not yet anyway. Liquid means that some has thawed and if it only comes from the valve, it just might mean that the tank has not cracked. >>>>> Our 06 Sunseeker has an "artic package." This weekend it got cold and >>>>> when I went to dump, the slide would not budge. The gray water tanks [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > heater works and maybe add another to the valve. We, well at least me - > the wife, not so much, enjoy winter camping a lot. Got it drained yesterday. I filled it up to the toilet bowl without seeing any leaks so I suppose I dodged a bullet this time. I asked the dealer to make sure that the tank heater is working. I may start carrying a heat tape for future cold outings. > Well it is in the upper twenties now and the drain valve can be cracked > open enough to allow a little liquid to dribble out. There is no dripping [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> heater works and maybe add another to the valve. We, well at least me - >> the wife, not so much, enjoy winter camping a lot. 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I filled it up to the toilet bowl without seeing > any leaks so I suppose I dodged a bullet this time. I asked the dealer to > make sure that the tank heater is working. I may start carrying a heat tape > for future cold outings. SNIP Buy a cheap trouble light. Put a 100watt bulb in it and leave it on in the compartment. It will generate enough heat to keep the tanks/valves from freezing. Work for me, YMMV.  SignatureMatt Delete nospam for email "Where did you say we are going again, Dear?" >> Got it drained yesterday. I filled it up to the toilet bowl without >> seeing [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the compartment. It will generate enough heat to keep the tanks/valves > from freezing. Work for me, YMMV. Our tanks are hung under the frame, they are not in a compartment. I bought a heat tape Sunday. >>> Got it drained yesterday. I filled it up to the toilet bowl without >>> seeing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Our tanks are hung under the frame, they are not in a compartment. I > bought a heat tape Sunday. Yesterday my mechanic told me that the heat pad under the black tank was getting 12 volts but not warming. $160 or so. |
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