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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / January 2008Forest River Or Fleetwood?
Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. I just got my first ever computer for Christmas. I joined and scanned the other RV group but saw mostly discord and one guy threatening someone else about breaking some new law. I responded to that because the law seemed to be poorly written and probably would never stand up in front of SCOTUS. Enough of that. We're looking to purchase a new motorhome and have been looking at both the Fleetwood (Tioga) and Forest River (Sunseeker) Class C units. Would be interested in hearing from folks who have had either or both of these with the pros and cons plus any options that are a good buy. Thank you. CW In article <fd87346b-354e-46f8-bc64-30977c037882@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. I just got my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CW Have a look at Jayco, I think you will find the price similar and the quality higher (neither of your proposed rigs are known for quality). Check with http://www.rv.org  Signature-------------------------------------------------------- Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read RV and Camping FAQ can be found at http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. We're looking to purchase a new motorhome and have been looking at both the Fleetwood (Tioga) and Forest River (Sunseeker) Class C units. Would be interested in hearing from folks who have had either or both of these with the pros and cons plus any options that are a good buy. Thank you.<<<<< Chuck, If this will be your first RV, I would suggest you buy a used one. Until you spend some time in one, you have no idea what you will like/not like. Or maybe you or your wife might not like RV'ing at all. When you buy a new RV, you take a big hit in depreciation if you decide to sell it or exchange it for something you like. SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > When you buy a new RV, you take a big hit in depreciation if you decide to > sell it or exchange it for something you like. Good point. > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > When you buy a new RV, you take a big hit in depreciation if you decide to > sell it or exchange it for something you like. I agree and I'm new to RVing. I got an old Establishment (1981) 26', Class C, as partial payment for a mobile home we sold in Utah, and though it took some work to get it up to snuff ( it had been poorly cared for over the last 7 years), I enjoy driving it. More importantly, my wife, who is somewhat claustrophobic, is comfortable in it. Man, I always did want a Mopar with a 440 under the hood . . . . . VBG Budd Thanks for the suggestions. I agree with Dan regarding the Sunseeker. The ones we looked at could have been just a little better if they'd let Dan and I change a couple of the designs before the final build. lol And Jerry and others have an excellent point about maybe buying used first. I'd hate to sink $75,000 into something that I found I didn't like and have it be worth $60,000 the next day when I took it back to trade. Maybe an exaggeration. -) We'll also be checking some other brands. How about mileage or do all Class C's hurt you at the pump equally? CW > Thanks for the suggestions. I agree with Dan regarding the > Sunseeker. The ones we looked at could have been just a little better [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CW Not sure about all the C's but I got the same mileage with my Class C as I am getting with my Class A and both had the Chevy Vortec 404 gas engine (hopefully that is the right number). I have bought all my MH's second hand and while still expensive that initial loss as you drive off the showroom with was incurred by others. Thank goodness. The buying used is the best idea if you have not done the MH deal, even renting for a few days would be even better. Especially with the price of fuel going up and up! I have no regrets and all that I have bought were 5 years old at the time of purchase and I had no regrets! BTW each one you look at will seem like it is so big until you get your stuff in it and make a few trips and then you most likely will want to upgrade. 1. VW Westfaila Class B, 2. Class C Jamboree, 3 Class A Georgie Boy Cruz Master. See what I mean. (grin) Lee (in Florida) > Thanks for the suggestions. I agree with Dan regarding the > Sunseeker. The ones we looked at could have been just a little better [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CW Well, let's see ... 440 cubes hauling 12,000 pounds for the RV plus about 6000 pounds in a 6 X 12 U-haul and having a 4.10 axle just doesn't add up a fuel economy package, but climbing the Rocky Mountains with that load and spending a bunch of miles in the mountains in first gear yielded about a 6 MPG average for the trip. I have seen a figure of 7.3 mpg in a headwind at 75 mph running without any supplies or trailers loading it down If I had a Cummins under the hood, my mileage would have been better, of course, and since my rig only has 23,000 miles on it, I might consider a engine swap in the future. Budd I see where Chuck Wilson -SoCal- <chaswilson@myway.com> contributed: >And Jerry and others have an excellent point about maybe buying used >first. I'd hate to sink $75,000 into something that I found I didn't >like and have it be worth $60,000 the next day when I took it back to >trade. Maybe an exaggeration. -) Yes, that would be an exaggeration. More likely a $75k purchase today would struggle to find a buyer next week for $50k. And it is not entirely an economic issue. You cannot possibly know what layout & size suits YOUR needs until you've had some experience. Many believe bigger is better - after a half-century of rv travel in several kinds of rv's, we firmly believe smaller is better. For us. My advice: continue doing your homework, but buy used until you're quite sure what meets your personally needs/wants. There is no such thing as the perfect RV. Will Sill I post to help rv'ers and to annoy the snot outa idjits, morons, and liberal kooks. If you're annoyed, check yer mirror to see why. We have an 06 Sunseeker. It is fun and we enjoy it but I would like to spend an afternoon with its designers. There WERE a lot of dumb things in its design that could have been easily avoided with some input from somebody who actually used the product. I said WERE because over the year or so, I have fixed a lot of these small but bothersome issues. Can't help you with the Tioga. Dan > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. I just got my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CW > Enough of that. We're looking to purchase a new motorhome and have > been looking at both the Fleetwood (Tioga) and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of these with the pros and cons plus any options that are a good buy. > Thank you. Howdy Chuck, we bought a 2007 Tioga 22B last year and it's been a blast. Several minor issues (noise problems, mainly) have come up with the unit but they've all been resolved . The dozen or so dealers we talked to through our buying search (we had it narrowed down to six or seven mfrs/models, including Fleetwood and Forest River) were pretty consistent about their advice: most gave the quality nod to Fleetwood over Forest River. We got the unit brand new out the door for $42,300, which I think was a good deal... considering we had another dealer offer us $38,500 for it on a trade-in to a larger unit (which we declined). > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. I just got my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CW I rented a new Forest River class C motorhome last year. What a pile. I saw trouble everywhere i looked. One good look at the roof should tell you everything you need to know. Very poor quality everything. If a high school wood shop class did that interior you might give them a C, but that would be for effort, not quality. > Hello, I'm Chuck Wilson from the east LA area and kinda new to this > newsgroup thing so tell me if I do something wrong. I just got my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CW Hello Chuck as for the choice of eitheir you have listed i have to side with Forest River, I have a Cedar Creek 5 wheel and it is great, as for the person who said they do not have a good rep should look around, Fleetwood is the largest builder of rv's and moblie homes in the us, and Forest River is no sloch eithier. As for a Jayco they are a well built unit but for the money a Forest river is better. Now there was a differant person who stated to start with a used unit, i would give that route alot of thought, and look around at a few dealers and shows before you decide, an rv is not a simple thing to own, they all have there quirks and issues and you will have the mantain a home on wheels also. Hope it helps |
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