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I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me with picking out an older Chrysler Corp vehicle for use as a towed, I appreciate it greatly. I have two older D-150 pickups (2 wheel drive), but neither is flat towable with the driveshaft still connected and either one is over 3500 pounds curb weight empty which would require auxiliary brakes. TIA Budd Budd Cochran wrote:.....either one is over 3500 pounds curb weight empty which would require auxiliary brakes.<<<<<<<<<< You should use auxiliary brakes for any toad you get, no matter how light it is.  SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me with : picking out an older Chrysler Corp vehicle for use as a towed, I appreciate [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : with the driveshaft still connected and either one is over 3500 pounds curb : weight empty which would require auxiliary brakes. Check here http://www.remcotowing.com/ for driveline disconnect. You will definitely need an auxiliary brake system. > : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me with > : picking out an older Chrysler Corp vehicle for use as a towed, I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Check here http://www.remcotowing.com/ for driveline disconnect. You will > definitely need an auxiliary brake system. The weight of the trucks, approximately 3900 pounds curb weight, rules them out for toad use behind my Class C as far as I'm concerned, brakes or no brakes. I looked at and added remco to my favorites, but I'd still prefer to tow something (American and Chrysler Corp) that can be flat towed without the absolute need of auxiliary braking systems ... the durn things are just too darn expensive. I'm on a fixed income so I'll probably be selling the two pickups to help pay for the toad anyway then the toad will become my daily driver when not out on the road. Budd : The weight of the trucks, approximately 3900 pounds curb weight, rules them : out for toad use behind my Class C as far as I'm concerned, brakes or no [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : pay for the toad anyway then the toad will become my daily driver when not : out on the road. Budd, I think as a general rule you can tow a front wheel drive vehicle with a manual transmission four down without any modifications. However as Jerry said, you should absolutely use an auxiliary braking system with any toad, and IMHO, particularly if you're going to be towing with a class C. Depending on the weight of the toad you wind up with, you will also have to take in account state towing laws requiring auxiliary braking systems http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm As far as the cost of an auxiliary brake system, you might try eBay. That's where I got mine along with a tow bar, at below half the cost of new. Just had to buy the front end brackets for the toad. Bob >> : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me >> with [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Budd http://www.readybrake.com/brake-systems.html Budd, my son has one of these for his Jeep and he is satisfied with it. As for toad weight, I tow a 2000 Toyota 4Runner (4500lbs) behind my 30ft Ford V10 motorhome. It actually drives better with the 4Runner than without it. I did have to get a DS disconnect for it, and it hasn't been a problem, and is easy to operate from the drivers seat. Ron >>> : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me >>> with [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > hasn't been a problem, and is easy to operate from the drivers seat. > Ron I checked out the link and it's quite interesting. I had an idea to build something like that but it's price isn't too bad compared to the fancier types. I saved a copy of the video to show the missus. Remco is currently "updating their product applications list" but I saw a price of around $650 (!!!!) for a disconnect to fit my trucks (both use the same U-joints but one has a 2-piece driveshaft), but I could just do the old "unbolt the rear joint and wire the driveshaft to the frame" trick. Budd >> http://www.readybrake.com/brake-systems.html >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Budd I bought the complete DS/disconnect assy and just switched it out. The original is stored in the garage so that if I sell the 4R I can put the orig back in. Ron >>> http://www.readybrake.com/brake-systems.html >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > orig back in. > Ron Sorry, the initial cost is too high for the unit when it comes to my budget, and then parts would be needed to convert to vehicles not using the same driveline setup (different u-joints, for example). Btw, my wife watched the ready brake video and even she was impressed. I think we'll be getting one of them. Budd >> : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me with >> : picking out an older Chrysler Corp vehicle for use as a towed, I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Budd We use a Saturn with an automatic transmission for our toad. Wife drives it daily at home to and from the gym and Wal*mart. It, an LS-200, weighs close to 3000 lbs which is OK for my Class C. We have had two of these Saturns (one got flooded at a campground on the Brandywine river) and both were/are nice toads. John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee >>> : I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me >>> with [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > John Andrews, Knoxville, Tennessee John, I'm sorry, but I do not like General Motors products. Never had any luck with them. Unless you count bad luck, that is. :) Budd > I'm sorry, but I do not like General Motors products. Never had any luck > with them. > Unless you count bad luck, that is. :) Don't discount a Tracker because it was sold by GM. It was built by Suzuki and is one tough little vehicle. Paul Johnson >> I'm sorry, but I do not like General Motors products. Never had any luck >> with them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Suzuki and is one tough little vehicle. > Paul Johnson I've never had good service from GM or Ford products and AMC gave me service almost on a par with Chrysler. I've had 1 Chevy, 1 Ford, 3 AMC, and 20 Chrysler products. The first two broke down constantly, the AMC held up until they could do any more, and the Mopars just kept coming back for more and cost less to fix. I've had Slant Sixes run to over 400,000 miles and one of my trucks has about the same on a 318 (5.2L). So, Mopars only please. Budd Budd Cochran wrote: I've had 1 Chevy, 1 Ford, 3 AMC, and 20 Chrysler products.<<<<<<<< So the last time you had a Ford or Chevy was 1952, huh ? <g> SignatureJerryD(upstateNY) > Budd Cochran wrote: I've had 1 Chevy, 1 Ford, 3 AMC, and 20 Chrysler > products.<<<<<<<< > > So the last time you had a Ford or Chevy was 1952, huh ? <g> Well, it was a 56 Chevy 210 with a 265 Powerpack and powerglide that, at 51,000 miles could be guaranteed to spray oil all over the distributor and leave you stranded, the Ford was a 65 Falcon with the 170 cube six that couldn't get out of it's own way not to mention its mechanical probs that defied tracking down ( btw, I'm a disabled heavy equipment and small engine mechanic, not a parts changer) even with the help of a friend that was head mechanic in a Ford dealership. But they are not the basis for the comment. I've been trusted with driving friends cars of many makes including Caddys, Buicks, Mercedes, Oldsmobiles, Rambler (AMC) and Chrysler products. I have always had operational problems with brands other than Chrysler, AMC and Mercedes. Now, to be honest, I won't make comment on any Rolls Royces until someone loans me one for a few months. Any takers??? VBG Budd Why Chrysler? > I'm sure it's been covered many times, but if someone could help me with > picking out an older Chrysler Corp vehicle for use as a towed, I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Budd >Why Chrysler? Bill, I believe Budd has already answered that question in this thread... Basically, his personal choice due to his experiences. Here is what Budd said from a post in this thread. Did you read the thread? >I've never had good service from GM or Ford products and AMC gave me service >almost on a par with Chrysler. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Budd Jerry O. I read that, but I do not think those old slant sixes are available. (you couldn't kill them). That would be the only reason I could see, hence my question, why Chrysler? I would approach the problem, by which vehicle has the easies time to be a toad, then weight, then on, n on.. But not a manufacture first., as stated he has owned many different types in the past. So why limit your self now??? > Bill, I believe Budd has already answered that question in this > thread... Basically, his personal choice due to his experiences. > >>So, Mopars only please. >I read that, but I do not think those old slant sixes are available. (you >couldn't kill them). And you never will. There are still probably millions of them in the junk yards. I've had four now and one, a 65 Barracuda with a milled head and re-jetted carb was clocked by the Indiana State Patrol at 117, or at least that's what he said I was doing when I slowed down and then saw the flashing lights. > That would be the only reason I could see, hence my question, why > Chrysler? Chrysler Corp has always been the "underdog" yet many of the innovations on today's cars are Chrysler developments: The Hemispherical head engine, the splayed valve engine ( that is similar to Chevy big blocks and Ford Clevelands), hydraulic brakes on low priced cars ( 28 Plymouth). Then there's the first cloned engine, the 392 Hemi; the second cloned engine, the 426 Hemi; and the most engines / cars banned or factored out of competition, all the Hemis, the Vipers, Neons, Stratus. Heck, back when my trucks were built, Dodge was dropping them from the ceiling in their commercials to how tough they are, yet not so many years ago, GM's fancy "Hydroformed" frame was adding a whole new definition to "flexible flyer". Gee, I wonder why? Could it be they were too good? I can't find any verification, but rumor has it the trucks from the Dodge commercials were sent to dealerships and sold. > I would approach the problem, by which vehicle has the easies time to be a > toad, then weight, then on, n on.. > But not a manufacture first., as stated he has owned many different types > in the past. So why limit your self now??? That is your methodology, not mine, simply put I was raised by a man that taught me to stick with what works and don't fix it till it's broken. He believed that if you couldn't afford something, then make do with what you either have or can build. I have to ask, if a certain item gives you trouble, would YOU buy another one? I'm not talking about kids or pets, of course. <BG> Budd >>Why Chrysler? >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Jerry O. Thank you, Jerry. Budd > Why Chrysler? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Budd Do you have a brand preference? If so, where does the US sales profits for that company go? I like to keep my monies here in the USA as much as is possible. I'll buy a more expensive US made product over anything made overseas, especially Communist countries Now that Chrysler is back in North American ownership and since it's the brand I have had the best results with since 1967, I'll stick with them. Heck, I learned to ride motorcycles on a Honda 50cc, but now I own a 1952 Cushman. Budd |
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