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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / February 2008

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Jonathan King - 21 Feb 2008 20:17 GMT
I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
fall under the guidelines of the ICC regarding the interstate
transportion of sewage and need placards, permits etc. Obviously, this
is not enforced but can someone direct me to the actual laws that
govern this.

Jonthan
S. Barker - 21 Feb 2008 21:32 GMT
were these two people on national enquirer dot com?

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>I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
> RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
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> Jonthan
Frank Tabor - 21 Feb 2008 22:54 GMT
>I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
>RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
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>Jonthan

Placards are only required when a hazardous material exceeds 1000 lbs.
RVs do not fall under any of the regulations you speak of.  The folks
that told you this know not of what they speak.
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Dave and Trudy - 22 Feb 2008 10:03 GMT
>>I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
>>RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
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> RVs do not fall under any of the regulations you speak of.  The folks
> that told you this know not of what they speak.
Sounds like a (?former?) trucker. Thanks for some cold hard facts. There is
so much misinformation out there that one hardly knows what to believe these
days. I know that OTR buses (with bathrooms) are not required to dump before
they cross state lines by the same info in the FMCRs.

DaveD
Billy - 22 Feb 2008 23:10 GMT
>> I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
>> RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> RVs do not fall under any of the regulations you speak of.  The folks
> that told you this know not of what they speak.
I talked with an RVer that was emptying a 260gallon black tank at a
Flying J, I think, in Mich.
Frank Tabor - 22 Feb 2008 23:59 GMT
>>> I have been told by two people that it is a federal requirement that
>>> RVs empty their blackwater tanks at every state line. If not, they
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I talked with an RVer that was emptying a 260gallon black tank at a
>Flying J, I think, in Mich.

RVs aren't subject to Hazardous Material regulations.
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miles - 24 Feb 2008 16:03 GMT
> RVs aren't subject to Hazardous Material regulations.

Are there any tunnels that have limits as to amount of propane etc.
carried through?
Frank Tabor - 24 Feb 2008 17:47 GMT
>> RVs aren't subject to Hazardous Material regulations.
>
>Are there any tunnels that have limits as to amount of propane etc.
>carried through?

On the East Coast there are several, most notably those that go under.
In Baltimore neither the I95 nor I895 tunnels permit propane.  The
Chesapeake Bay Bridge/Tunnel requires the bottles be turned off,as
well as the tunnels under Hampton Roads.

However, these aren't the  Haz Mat restrictions required of commercial
carriers.  These are restrictions placed on propane by the individual
Authority operating the bridge or tunnel, and should be consulted. All
have warning signs with instructions on approach.

Please don't start confusing RV's with Commercial Carriers and the
regulations governing them.  They don't apply to RV's being operated
as a private conveyance.
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Tom J - 24 Feb 2008 18:31 GMT
>>> RVs aren't subject to Hazardous Material regulations.
>>
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> regulations governing them.  They don't apply to RV's being operated
> as a private conveyance.

The tunnels going into NYC don't allow propane & neither does the
lower level of the George Washington Bridge, UNLESS the rules have
been changed within the past year.

Tom J
ratatouillerat@yahoo.com - 24 Feb 2008 21:29 GMT
>The tunnels going into NYC don't allow propane & neither does the
>lower level of the George Washington Bridge, UNLESS the rules have
>been changed within the past year.
>
>Tom J

No highway tunnels allow propane unless the entire tunnel slopes out.
Danger is that loose propane will flow to a puddle in the middle and
be ignited.

Washington ferries have restictions on fuel containers but not on
vehicle fuel tanks...

Pete

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