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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / RVs / March 2008

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Battery monitor?

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Steve Calvin - 16 Mar 2008 20:51 GMT
Well, it's time for me to get serious about a battery monitor.

Yes, I've searched but looking for advice from folks who
have used systems.

Our unit is on our property in the Adirondacks, in the
boonies. And I mean boonies. No shore power. Hell, cell
phones don't even work. But that's a good thing :D

I run 2 29 series batteries in parallel and charge them with
a Honda EU6500IS generator (great generator, btw)

I need a battery monitor for 'em. At the end of last year I
was looking at the  Xantrex and it seems to be a decent
system. I'd probably get the temperature sensor was well
considering where we are.

Any new opinions?

A link to what I'm looking at:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/24c77f

Thanks,
Steve
Tom J - 16 Mar 2008 21:25 GMT
Google with quotes:
"Off grid battery power"
for more suggestions.

Tom J

> Well, it's time for me to get serious about a battery monitor.
>
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> Thanks,
> Steve
Steve Calvin - 16 Mar 2008 21:36 GMT
> Google with quotes:
> "Off grid battery power"
> for more suggestions.
>
> Tom J

Been there Tom. Having been in the computer business for 34
years, I'm well acquainted with google.

"google it" isn't always a good answer, especially in this
case.

I was inquiring about any personal experiences, good, bad,
ugly. ;-)

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Steve
Zyp - 20 Mar 2008 06:23 GMT
>> Google with quotes:
>> "Off grid battery power"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> --
> Steve

I too am looking for a "good" monitor.  But they are either really really
fancy, or just really plain jane.  Isn't there something in-between?

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Zyp

Jim Redelfs - 20 Mar 2008 16:45 GMT
> I too am looking for a "good" monitor.  But they are either really really
> fancy, or just really plain jane.  Isn't there something in-between?

I bought a Fluke<r> digital multimeter and, if I'm really dying to get
an "exact" level-of-charge on my battery, I use it.  I consider a modest
version of this tool an essential part of any RV toolkit.

The most accurate measurement, of course, is a sample of the battery's
electrolyte measured with a hydrometer and doing the thermal (ambient
temperature) conversion math.  No, thanks.  I have no REAL need for that
degree of accuracy.

My travel trailer is equipped with a cheap, 4-LED systems monitor that I
find satisfactory.  It is surely microprocessor-controlled with "gates"
at pre-set voltages.  Given that, I believe that it is accurate and
reliable enough for regular use.  When only two LEDs illuminate, it's
time to recharge.  Determining the actual voltage, down to a tenth of a
volt, isn't necessary for this purpose.

If they haven't already, someone will surely come along shortly and post
the requisite URL to Darden's battery FAQ website.
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           :)
JR

Steve Calvin - 20 Mar 2008 17:36 GMT
>>> Google with quotes:
>>> "Off grid battery power"
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> I too am looking for a "good" monitor.  But they are either really really
> fancy, or just really plain jane.  Isn't there something in-between?

Well, I think I've pretty much decided on this one.
http://tinyurl.com/24c77f
--
Steve
Dan Listermann - 20 Mar 2008 18:36 GMT
>>>> Google with quotes:
>>>> "Off grid battery power"
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> --
> Steve

That would be fun, but it is far more money than I am willing to spend for
my purposes.
Mickey - 21 Mar 2008 17:16 GMT
.....

> That would be fun, but it is far more money than I am willing to spend for
> my purposes.

If your needs are modest and you don't want to invest a lot of money,
for about $25-30 you can build yourself a digital amp meter.  A digital
millivolt meter and a 50A shunt wired together can result in a current
meter that will read current flow in and out of the battery to the
nearest .1A, +/- 50A.

It's not a $200 meter but knowing flow in and out of the battery I can
estimate about how long a charge is going to last and when charging (I
have a charge wizard on the charger) I can get a good indication of how
close to being fully charged the battery is by watching the the inflow
current.  It more than meets my needs.  If the battery has been sitting
unused for a few hrs, a voltage reading along with a chart can tell you
the state of charge within 10%.  Lot closer and easier than using a
hygrometer.

A battery rated at 100Ah & fully charged, if I see I have a steady 8A
discharge rate, it doesn't take any effort to know I'm good for about 6
hrs use to get down to the 50% charge state.  I run the genset some
every day so I never let the battery get too discharge that it take hrs
and hrs to fill the battery again.

Mickey

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